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TW “Uk must actively prepare for potential of war in the homeland

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Theogpinkponyclub · 24/06/2025 15:36

Says Sky news…

Is this more scaremongering BS?!

Apparently a new wartime strategy plan has been put in place, the 1st time in many years

I am starting to get a weird feeling, similar to before Covid hit that something big is going to go down, anyone have the same?

OP posts:
2024onwardsandup · 24/06/2025 18:31

nomoreforks · 24/06/2025 15:47

Having watched many reels of war veterans who were asked if they think that war was worth it- they all seem to say 'No'. War leads to more war and solves nothing. I think we should support our democratic allies and provide humanitarian aid for people who are the victims of violence but stay out of any wars. In terms of national service -didn't 50% of UK citizens say they would never fight for their country?

And if the UK is attacked?

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 24/06/2025 18:53

BreakingBroken · 24/06/2025 16:04

Russia is aggressive and routinely pushes boundaries in the waterways near the UK.
Iran might consider retaliation to both USA and allies who are opposed to their nuclear armament.
So being prepared seems right.

How is Russia going to get a sufficient number of troops, weapons and supplies to the UK to attempt a successful invasion? Its Navy is in poor shape. It doesn't have much in the way of heavy lift cargo aircraft suitable for the job and it's lost a fair chunk of its usable offensive air power over Ukraine. And to do it by land would require it to fight its way through several other countries before it could get to us.

Iran's much the same. Its Navy really isn't built to project force over that kind of distance as it's much more aimed at protection of its local waters. Its air force is a rag-tag collection of old Russian cast-offs with a lot of doubt about how many are still air-worthy and how many usable weapons they've got. And a land invasion from Iran would face even bigger obstacles to get to the UK than Russia would.

China could probably do it but the cost would be astronomical for very little gain. China simply doesn't care about us that much.

Newsenmum · 24/06/2025 18:55

I think it’s pretty valid. Of course we should be bloody prepared. Why do we think we’re immune?

BreakingBroken · 24/06/2025 19:45

War will most likely involve power outages, cyberattacks affecting computers, higher costs of importing supplies.
So being prepared as mentioned upthread might be; cash on site, an extra month’s supply of medication, a better stocked pantry, drinking water. Maybe an evacuation bag in case you are asked to shelter at a community center.

MissConductUS · 24/06/2025 19:55

Bohemond23 · 24/06/2025 18:30

Suggest anyone interested listens to the Wargame podcast (also Sky News). We are completely unprepared to defend the UK should the worst happen. It’s making a deliberate point, but it is based on fact.

I was coming on to say this.

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-wargame/id1547225334

The UK's conventional forces have been cut to the point that Russia could launch a conventional attack, framing it as a response to a fabricated UK aggression. If other NATO members don't want to get involved, given the ambiguous circumstances, the UK would either have to go nuclear (very unlikely) or submit to whatever terms the Russians want to impose.

Having more capable conventional forces decreases the likelihood of ever being put in this position. I urge everyone who doubts this to listen to the podcast.

The Wargame

The Wargame

News Podcast · Series · Russia knows our weaknesses. But do you?    A major five-part series from Sky News and Tortoise which imagines how a Russian attack on the UK could play out – and invites real-life former ministers, …

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-wargame/id1547225334

MissConductUS · 24/06/2025 19:58

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 24/06/2025 18:53

How is Russia going to get a sufficient number of troops, weapons and supplies to the UK to attempt a successful invasion? Its Navy is in poor shape. It doesn't have much in the way of heavy lift cargo aircraft suitable for the job and it's lost a fair chunk of its usable offensive air power over Ukraine. And to do it by land would require it to fight its way through several other countries before it could get to us.

Iran's much the same. Its Navy really isn't built to project force over that kind of distance as it's much more aimed at protection of its local waters. Its air force is a rag-tag collection of old Russian cast-offs with a lot of doubt about how many are still air-worthy and how many usable weapons they've got. And a land invasion from Iran would face even bigger obstacles to get to the UK than Russia would.

China could probably do it but the cost would be astronomical for very little gain. China simply doesn't care about us that much.

They don't need to invade the UK, and it's very unlikely they'd want to. They would cut the underwater gas pipelines and internet cables, attack UK military installations with missiles, and sabotage ports and other infrastructure as a way of blackmailing the UK.

The UK's conventional forces are poorly equipped to handle those attacks.

IsthataYes · 24/06/2025 20:01

@Needmorelego i agree. We've done more than are fair share of heaving lifting

MedievalNun · 24/06/2025 20:10

I don’t see any issue with being sensible about this. As pp have said, batteries, torches etc, water purification tablets - but these are sensible for power outages anyway so not just for any military situation even if I did panic buy iodine tablets when iran got bombed by Israel

We camp a lot so have most things that are suggested, wind-up radio etc although now I think about it, ours is old so unless they go back to pre-DAB it’s now useless. New one I think.

But on a serious note, yes, I’m worried. I havr family in the forces and live in an area that would be targeted. Ultravox ‘Dancing With Tears in our Eyes’ is off the current playlist. 😉

Hedjwitch · 24/06/2025 21:48

MissConductUS · 24/06/2025 19:58

They don't need to invade the UK, and it's very unlikely they'd want to. They would cut the underwater gas pipelines and internet cables, attack UK military installations with missiles, and sabotage ports and other infrastructure as a way of blackmailing the UK.

The UK's conventional forces are poorly equipped to handle those attacks.

Edited

Exactly this. Cyber attacks to destabilise and cause panic, interfere with energy supplies. Chaos ensues,leaving us open to further damage. It seems imminently sensible for everyone to make a few basic preparations without getting hysterical about it.

AliasGrace47 · 24/06/2025 22:38

I was in a balloon shop of all places when I heard this on the radio. Scarer me a lot. I think from the plan they expect cyberwarfare which is less bad bit obvs will still have consequences.

Panicking is bad. But people should be aware. Those who know nothing of what happens in the world will still be affected by whatever happens.

I'm thanking my lucky stars I live in a quiet area of London outskirts which will probs not be a Major target. We still got bombed here in WW2 rho.

Wolmando · 24/06/2025 22:41

It will just be a reminder to have 3 days supplies in, stuff like that, for if any infrastructure goes down

AliasGrace47 · 24/06/2025 22:45

Catsandcannedbeans · 24/06/2025 16:27

Honestly if they blow us up they blow us up, if we go to war we go to war. As long as it’s after my holiday I don’t care. Because of where we live, if there was a nuclear attack we would definitely be frazzled out of existence in seconds.

I think it’s scaremongering to prime us for the idea of sending troops somewhere maybe? If people think the homeland is under siege then they’re more likely to be okay with it.

Let's not give up on everything yet! I know why people are fed up but I don't think it's that bad yet, I thunk we can still defend ourselves

RedToothBrush · 24/06/2025 22:47

Needmorelego · 24/06/2025 15:42

I'm mostly ignoring the news so have no idea what's true or not.
Why can't the UK declare itself neutral in this nonsense (like some countries did in WW2) and say we don't want to be involved.

Because we are in a defensive alliance.

And because if someone decides to start a war with you, it doesn't matter if you were neutral because you are at war..

mindingmyown37 · 24/06/2025 22:52

I’m very aware this may happen but not getting stressed about it, it’s out of our hands and absolutely nothing we can do about it. This is what happens when you have egotistical narcissists running country’s. Unfortunately the uk always inserts itself into everyone’s business.

WilfredsPies · 24/06/2025 23:06

I think that reports have been quite clear that they’re aren’t expecting shelling to start imminently. But attacks on our infrastructure and possible terror attacks are likely. And most of Europe have been told this for some time now, so it’s not just the UK. Iran, Russia and North Korea could combine forces, but they don’t have the capacity to take on the entire world, all at once.

It’s just a case of being sensible; having some tinned/packet food, torches, power packs, a couple of quid in cash and all of your ID somewhere you can grab it if you need it. There’s really nothing else to be done.

Meteorite87 · 19/03/2026 14:10

Reading this in mid March 2026, like 😬

midlifeattheoasis · 19/03/2026 14:12

Why the trigger warning @Theogpinkponyclub

xogossipgirlxo · 19/03/2026 14:15

Better safe than sorry, so they invest in weapons etc. We live in crazy times. But I don’t think there will be war.
edit: just noticed it’s from last year🫠

Serenity75 · 19/03/2026 14:30

Russia can’t defeat Ukraine who aren’t members of NATO, Iran is almost 3000 miles away and don’t have any missiles that could get close to the UK. Russia can’t fire long range missiles into the UK because they could be seen as nuclear and both Uk and France are nuclear powers. Russias navy has mainly been sunk by ukranian drones. France and Britain between them spend more on defence than Russia do, Germany are rearming. Russia would need to get through Europe to get to the uk. So apart from nuclear annihilation, I think we’ll be alright.

MissConductUS · 19/03/2026 16:46

Serenity75 · 19/03/2026 14:30

Russia can’t defeat Ukraine who aren’t members of NATO, Iran is almost 3000 miles away and don’t have any missiles that could get close to the UK. Russia can’t fire long range missiles into the UK because they could be seen as nuclear and both Uk and France are nuclear powers. Russias navy has mainly been sunk by ukranian drones. France and Britain between them spend more on defence than Russia do, Germany are rearming. Russia would need to get through Europe to get to the uk. So apart from nuclear annihilation, I think we’ll be alright.

See my post upthread about how Russia would attack the UK.

The vast majority of Russia's navy has not been damaged in the war in Ukraine, and Russia could easily launch short-range missiles at targets in the UK from submarines or navy ships, without triggering a nuclear response.

Serenity75 · 19/03/2026 22:39

And the uk could do the same to Russia (as could France and Germany if Russia attacked their nato allies), it’s simply not going to happen. Russia don’t have the strength to win a proxie war that they’ve spent vast amount of gold and blood on, they certainly aren’t going to be able win a proper war in Europe against properly armed opponents, it’s not going to happen

MissConductUS · 20/03/2026 15:47

Serenity75 · 19/03/2026 22:39

And the uk could do the same to Russia (as could France and Germany if Russia attacked their nato allies), it’s simply not going to happen. Russia don’t have the strength to win a proxie war that they’ve spent vast amount of gold and blood on, they certainly aren’t going to be able win a proper war in Europe against properly armed opponents, it’s not going to happen

It's not going to happen in the very near future. The consensus among security and military experts is that, without substantial increases in defense capabilities, it's likely to happen in the next three to five years.

https://www.belfercenter.org/research-analysis/russia-nato-baltics-scenarios-europe-security

https://understandingwar.org/research/defense-of-europe/the-russian-military-forecasting-the-threat/

https://www.russiamatters.org/blog/would-russia-attack-nato-and-if-so-when

Russia won't be tied down in Ukraine forever, and they're quite willing to put their economy on a war footing. Some NATO countries are expanding their militaries, but it's primarily those in close proximity to Russia. Other countries, like the UK, have identified gaps in their capabilities but are not currently doing anything about them.

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/the-uk-strategic-defense-review-lays-out-an-ambitious-roadmap-for-reform-will-the-government-deliver/

If NATO is to deter an aggressive Russia in three to five years, it must start rebuilding now.

Russian Threats to NATO’s Eastern Flank: Scenarios, Strategy, and Policy for European Security

https://www.belfercenter.org/research-analysis/russia-nato-baltics-scenarios-europe-security

Meteorite87 · 22/03/2026 12:25

xogossipgirlxo · 19/03/2026 14:15

Better safe than sorry, so they invest in weapons etc. We live in crazy times. But I don’t think there will be war.
edit: just noticed it’s from last year🫠

Edited

Sorry about the necrobump 🫣

The thread came up in a list of similar ones and the links between fears then and the Iran/USA actions now stood out.

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