New Dishwasher Help!

[Leeds2]

My Miele dishwasher has been on its last legs for some months. Sadly, it has now completely failed and I need to buy a new one. My Miele has lasted about 10 years, which I think is good for a dishwasher, but I have recently read on here that the quality of Miele products has gone downhill and that their servicing is now outsourced and not very reliable. Any views on recently bought Miele dishwashers, or recommendations for other brands? Or places to buy them to get the best deals?
All info gratefully received!

Bosch

And I’m a Miele lover
But for dishwashers…. Bosch

According to Which, Bosch.

I’ve always had Bosch and they have each lasted a similar amount of time. I try to go for a series 4 or 6.

We’ve got a medium level Neff and it’s been great.

Biggest tip - look at the cycle options. Ours has a 60min 60 degree wash that deals with pretty much everything. A lot of the eco wash programs are very long, and the short wash programs pretty cool. Never doing hot runs tends to gunk them up. That’s a model specific thing rather than a brand thing as even between brands the program
options change a lot.

Now have a Bosch Series 6 which is good. It's very quiet. When my daughter bought a house, series 6 was a real stretch for her, but she's so glad she did as can hardly hear it.

Bosch. Not the cheapest ones they make as they're not built the same but our serie 6 is good and has been problem free for over 4 years, so far.

We're fine with the longer cycles. We put it on at about 9pm on the auto cycle, with extra hygiene if there is anything that has been used for raw meat or fish. That finishes before we go to bed then we empty it in the morning.

Thanks everyone. Looks like the consensus is a Bosch Series 6! Anyone know what is the difference between a Series 4 and Series 6? I don't. mind paying extra for something useful but not for a function that I will never use!
ScaryMOnster, thanks for the tip. I have a feeling that this may be why my present one has packed up, as I started using the short wash programme.

We've got a Siemens iq300. No complaints! Love that it has a short (1hr) hot (65°c) cycle.

@Leeds2 larger number of place settings, price and the fact series 6 is still made in Germany which maybe makes it better than the cheaper models that are made in Poland? Check out John Lewis as they are offering longer guarantees.

Siemens and Neff are all the same as bosch, BTW!

There wasn't much choice when we were forced to buy a new one (because COVID) but IIRC the main difference between the serie 4 and serie 6 was the drying. If you do a comparison somewhere like John Lewis or AO that should give you the details.

Siemens and Neff are all the same as bosch, BTW!

huh?

My Miele dishwasher was bought in 1998 and has moved house once. It is still going strong, no issues, washes perfectly. Mind you, I do live in Miele-land, so no idea where the UK ones are actually "assembled".
I would buy another, but don't need to at present :-)
My mother was so impressed by mine, that she replaced her Neff one with a Miele (she loved the upper cutlery drawer). Mine also does "top solo", so the top 2 tiers get washed, which is sometimes very useful.
Mind you, I do look after it, make sure the filter is cleaned regularly and run a full cleaning programme once a month.

It's all the same parent company and some of their models are internally identical.
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My advice - prioritise easy to clean with extremely simple components.

Dishwashers get utterly minging inside and it causes massive issues if you can't clear them out because of this. For example, you know the spinny arms and how they need rinsing out and sometimes a pipe cleaner pushed through them to dislodge things like watermelon seeds and stringy bits of spinach from blocking the holes?

We got a new Beko last year, works brilliantly all except that the bottom arm is some stupid complicated contraption that "rotates" in a square using an extra bit which contains magnets. They call it cornersense or something. It gets full of food debris constantly, which get tangled up in or stuck between the cogs and then it won't turn properly. You can't push a pipe cleaner through the whole thing, and it won't come apart even if you take the screws out of it it's still glued together. I eventually got the last clog sorted with lots of excavating using bits of wire and then soaking the whole thing in drain cleaner for a few hours and then ran loads of empty cycles before I was happy to put the dishes that we actually eat out of through it. And now we are constantly having to run those dishwasher cleaner bottles to prevent it happening again.

It doesn't even squirt any better than the old, simple, fan-shaped arm which crucially can have a pipe cleaner shoved through it to clear any debris from inside. I wish I had not fallen for this silly marketing trick. Annoyingly, I discounted the Bosch they had in our price range because it had a plastic base of the interior and I thought that would be harder to clean than stainless steel. I don't know why the arm thing didn't occur to me.

You did well to avoid that Bosch. Those plastic bases are known to leak. The serie 4 and above don't have that.

Oh good, well I am glad I avoided that

Still the arm thing is incredibly annoying. I was so looking forward to having a dishwasher that wouldn't constantly smell of wet dog (our old Siemens, brilliantly designed for easy cleaning, EVERY part came out including the piping up the back - but there was some issue with either the pump or the waste pipe, so it didn't drain well). We replaced it when we moved, but because of this DH wanted to get one the same day and so we were limited by what the shop had in stock.