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If it's pronounced this way, why is it written that way?

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Dilbertian · 06/06/2025 22:27

I've just watched an advertisement for Hyundai. If Hyundai is pronounced Shinday, why isn't it written Shinday?

I don't mean words like Ikea, where the same letters have different sounds in different languages. If a word is being transliterated from a non-Latin alphabet, why not use letters that have those values? HY is not generally proncounced SH.

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CheeseNPickle3 · 07/06/2025 00:20

and the comment underneath explicitly says...

"Marking the dawn of a new Hyundai, we are changing the pronunciation of the brand name on the market to bring it in line with our global organization and its Korean heritage. It's the dawn of a new Hyundai"

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ComtesseDeSpair · 07/06/2025 00:25

MoltenLasagne · 06/06/2025 22:35

We recently watched Wolf Hall about Thomas Cromwell and looked up what actually happened with some of the historic characters. There was a fellow called "Risley" which apparently is spelt Wriothesley. God only knows how that works. Maybe they had the same scribe as the Cholmondley ("Chum-ley") and Featherstonhaugh ("Fen-shaw") families?

The family named Wriothesley derived from “wrythe”, a place on a stream, and would originally have been pronounced as spelled. But people in the sixteenth century had humorous, drunk friends and friends with regional accents just as we do nowadays, and colloquial pronunciations of it eventually morphed formally into something closer to Rizzley.

TatteredAndTorn · 07/06/2025 04:01

CheeseNPickle3 · 07/06/2025 00:20

and the comment underneath explicitly says...

"Marking the dawn of a new Hyundai, we are changing the pronunciation of the brand name on the market to bring it in line with our global organization and its Korean heritage. It's the dawn of a new Hyundai"

Good luck with that I say. If you wanted your brand pronounced a certain way I suggest you should have started with that and not try to change it (and the speech of a whole nation of people!) years later. Bit late now. We still often talk in pints, and feet and inches in this country, decades after decimalisation.

it’s all just a marketing trend that they think will get people talking about them, which I suppose has worked to an extent, but I’m not wasting any brain space trying to charge how I pronounce Hyundai or Ikea or anyone else who tries to get on the pronunciation change bandwagon. I have many many more important things to worry about.

Andylion · 07/06/2025 04:26

IvorBiggen · 06/06/2025 22:30

Don’t get me started on Sean Bean.

His name was spelled “Shaun” until he changed it. Everyone I know pronounces it “Seen Been”, as a joke.

NeymeChenge · 07/06/2025 04:30

Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Hyundai…

CottonCandyLand · 07/06/2025 04:47

I’m in North America. Here it’s pronounced Hunday. I always pronounced it H’yun-die 🤷‍♀️

ButteredRadishes · 07/06/2025 07:23

Literally nobody will say shin... despite adverts!

IvorBiggen · 07/06/2025 08:27

An elderly lady in Asda asked me to reach up and get her a packet of man get out and I’ve been calling them that ever since.

Housewife2010 · 07/06/2025 08:33

MoltenLasagne · 06/06/2025 22:35

We recently watched Wolf Hall about Thomas Cromwell and looked up what actually happened with some of the historic characters. There was a fellow called "Risley" which apparently is spelt Wriothesley. God only knows how that works. Maybe they had the same scribe as the Cholmondley ("Chum-ley") and Featherstonhaugh ("Fen-shaw") families?

It's pronounced Fanshaw.

minnienono · 07/06/2025 08:34

Firstly it’s pronounced Hun die, have a Korean friend so I trust her.

Sean is Irish so pronunciation is different to spelling.

W’s can be silent

and yes I pronounce chorizo properly because I speak Spanish, see also guacamole and Spanish things beginning with J. Wait until you hear the real pronunciation of Van Gogh… Dutch isn’t pronounced like the anglicised version!

TheyreLikeUsButRichAndThin · 07/06/2025 08:34

IvorBiggen · 07/06/2025 08:27

An elderly lady in Asda asked me to reach up and get her a packet of man get out and I’ve been calling them that ever since.

🤣🤣🤣 That’s the exact sort of post where I am reaching for the laugh reaction @MNHQ #bringitback

BethDuttonYeHaw · 07/06/2025 08:37

Hie-oon-die is how I pronounce it whilst understanding the native pronunciation may be different.

Prescila1982 · 07/06/2025 08:39

The place in England Bicester looks like it should be pronounced bi-cesster but am I right in saying it's pronounced bister?

ItsStillWork · 07/06/2025 08:53

IvorBiggen · 07/06/2025 08:27

An elderly lady in Asda asked me to reach up and get her a packet of man get out and I’ve been calling them that ever since.

What was she asking for as I can’t work it out 🤨

DappledThings · 07/06/2025 08:56

ItsStillWork · 07/06/2025 08:53

What was she asking for as I can’t work it out 🤨

Just take the gaps out of the words...

EleanorReally · 07/06/2025 08:56

i say Nootella because i first had it in germany

EleanorReally · 07/06/2025 08:57

IvorBiggen · 07/06/2025 08:27

An elderly lady in Asda asked me to reach up and get her a packet of man get out and I’ve been calling them that ever since.

Grin
ItsStillWork · 07/06/2025 08:59

Mangetout?

it’s too early for me as I’m still non the wiser 🤣🫨

LoafofSellotape · 07/06/2025 08:59

Lastmoon · 06/06/2025 23:50

Since when is Mac/Mc English? 😂
It’s Irish or Scottish Gaelic.

MacDonalds and McDonalds are pronounced the same to me (in Ireland).

Same to me too!

MidoriNoRingo · 07/06/2025 09:00

Wtf Have you heard a sh sound? It’s hyun-dae.

LoafofSellotape · 07/06/2025 09:00

Prescila1982 · 07/06/2025 08:39

The place in England Bicester looks like it should be pronounced bi-cesster but am I right in saying it's pronounced bister?

Yes, Bister, like blister minus the L.

myplace · 07/06/2025 09:01

CheeseNPickle3 · 07/06/2025 00:20

and the comment underneath explicitly says...

"Marking the dawn of a new Hyundai, we are changing the pronunciation of the brand name on the market to bring it in line with our global organization and its Korean heritage. It's the dawn of a new Hyundai"

I do hear an almost Welsh ‘ll’ at the start of that.

Not Shunday, llunday a softened, breathy ‘ch’

I don’t think it’s intentional though.

And yes, when you’ve lived somewhere everyone says Eekaya, or wacamole. Or horeetho, you tend to catch it.

LettingyougoMovingOn · 07/06/2025 09:01

The advert just tells us how they pronounce it in it's country of origin.

You've just made it weird by adding a Sh sound.

Bigearringsbigsmile · 07/06/2025 09:02

Nestle used to be pronounced nestles
Them changing it pissed me off

Eminybob · 07/06/2025 09:03

Calmdownpeople · 06/06/2025 23:31

I don’t understand this thread. The adverts are pronouncing the names of things on the home language of that product. Of course thats the right way to pronounce it.

Don’t even get me started on people saying MacDonalds. It’s McDonalds. Mc. And that’s and English word!.

  1. how is McDonalds an English word?
  2. how the fuck are you pronouncing Mc?
  3. please don’t tell me you pronounce it muck?
  4. as someone with a Mc surname I can assure you it is pronounced the same as Mac.
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