Six powerful reasons why women shouldn’t be jurors

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How many do you agree with??

I’ve come across a few other interesting stories/opinions in the few pages of the Evening Argus 1967 and Daily Herald 1956 that I’ve just found. Including at least two of men blaming crimes and bad behaviour on being drunk. An advert that suggests men cannot possibly buy their own socks. And also a random photo of Richard Attenborough’s kids 🤷‍♀️

I don’t agree with any of those - women are not a homogeneous group either. But how fascinating to have a glimpse into how society has changed since that article was written!

Rubbish writing on behalf of the author; at least three of those "reasons" are the same but rephrased.

There’s something terribly depressing watching someone else’s internalised misogyny make it into print.

Not that long ago really.

Too emotional my arse.

funny how the very male responses of violent rage and aggression have been rebranded NOT to be someone losing control of their emotions.

I don’t find it depressing. It’s interesting to see how in a relatively short time period those attitudes have changed. My mum would have grown up in a very different world to the one I grew up in.

These pages have been eye opening and frustrating. From the ads to the cartoons to the stories, there are so many insinuations of women’s qualities or roles (caring, homemaking, silly, flippant) and these are just normal newspapers from normal days

I see it was by the (in)famous Marje Proops. A professional handmaiden.
(and of course none of this could possibly apply to her, journalist, career woman, agony aunt et al. )

Yes men loose control of their emotions and have the nerve to call women over emotional

But this is a woman, writing out of her own experience of being a woman. She appears to believe that women as a class are irrational, over-emotional etc. Of course it’s depressing.

I guess I mean that we’ve moved on as a society now - so I find those attitudes of the past interesting in a historical sense.

Haven’t seen the name Marjorie Proops for years!!

what a load of rubbish!!

I agree with Marge. I also believe women should not be magistrates or judges. We are just too compassionate.

I remember the Sun headline: "Should girls present sports?" And another about girl tennis players demanding more money for flashing their knickers for two weeks.

I'm consistently intrigued by the fact that no- one has called Trump "emotional ". If a woman behaved the same way as he does she would not only be called emotional, she would be held up as an example as to why women shouldn't hold office and this would be linked to her menstrual cycle.

It was just clickbait of the time

My one powerful reason why men shouldn't be jurors: Donald Trump.

My second (I'd you aren't convinced): Elon Musk.

Oh, I'm from the states and I say this ALL THE TIME. He's the most emotionally dysregulated person I have ever seen.

I remember when Marje Proops was still writing her advice column in the 1980s. She received a letter from a woman with an overbearing MIL. The MIL would interfere in every aspect of the woman's marriage, give an opinion on every marital argument, and demand intimate details about their sex life. Marje's response? Try to see her point of view: when you have given birth to and raised a boy to manhood, you can't be expected to just stand back and let him go!

I couldn't believe what I was reading....

But women have been serving on juries since the 1920s…

What a load of cobblers. Interesting though, that throughout the article, the author has presumed the person being tried would be male.

First thought: I wonder how the writer would interpret today’s world of men being brainwashed and radicalised online. Cool logic isn’t what I associate with the legions of men who get sucked into that shit.

Second thought: oh, yeah, but depressingly there are people still think like this. I read a whole BTL argument on a Bing article about online romance scams recently. Although it wasn’t the focus of the article at all, several commenters seemed obsessed with insisting it is mainly women who get taken in by these things as men would be more circumspect about something that looks too good to be true. Which is strange since it’s generally not women you see on dating sites feeling entitled to hook up with someone decades younger and more attractive than them.

Marjorie Proops!

I am an emotional woman but stong, objective and compassionate. I would see Jury Duty as one of the most important things I could ever do with my life.
My emotions wouldn't cloud my view of whether the evidence is valid at it's core.
You see, as women through the ages have always known, we will always be seen as neurotic, emotional and incapable.
The stereotype sticks even if the modern language has changed.
They still think we're weak, but if most men stopped to look at the woman beside them, they would realise how strong she really is and ultimately how fair and critically thinking a woman's brain is.

This reminds me of a History program with the commentator observing the local ducking stool that was there for women and it seems they just evolved from burning us on the stake but it was the way it was mentioned in passing that made me think that we won’t be aware of how its woven into the day today.