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Do you think Robert Thompson is truly rehabilitated?

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Cheffymcchef · 05/06/2025 19:04

As we all know, James Bulger was a two-year-old boy from the UK whose tragic abduction and murder in 1993 shocked the world. Taken from a shopping center by two ten-year-old boys, John Venables and Robert Thompson, his death became one of the most harrowing and widely known cases in modern British history. To this day, nearly everyone who hears his name knows the heartbreaking story and the profound impact it had on public consciousness and the justice system.
both boys were released after serving 8 years, when they turned eighteen. John Venables returned to prison twice for possessing CSAM. He is currently still in prison.
I personally think Venables is sick and can’t be “cured” of his attraction to kids. He will always reoffend imo, even if his devices etc are taken away. He needs to stay in prison. He’s also allegedly revealed his identity and needed several new identities costing the taxpayer even more. I know you get all this “stop it now” therapy- I just don’t think pedophiles can be cured. It’s like trying to do conversion therapy on a straight person.
I don’t know how I feel about Thompson- he committed a heinous murder, but did his time in custody. He’s never reoffended and now allegedly lives with a partner who knows who he is. Can’t remember if he has children. From studying this case, it always seems like he was deemed the ring leader, yet he is the one who has cleaned himself up and stayed out of trouble.
both boys allegedly came from abusive households.
I know poor James' mum will never get over his death. I cant imagine the mixed feelings she must have, she likely thinks it was wrong for either boy to be released so young.
I can’t say I’d be too thrilled about Thompson moving into my area if that’s the case, but truthfully I think if he’s done his time he needs to be left alone now to live his life . But that’s probably a wildly unpopular opinion- because James will never get to live his life.
what do you think?

posted in crime but moved here for traffic

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Cheffymcchef · 05/06/2025 22:09

Never2many · 05/06/2025 22:07

People on this thread are practically salivating over the way this child died by recounting the details over and over and over.

Nobody needs to say that what these children did wasn’t wrong, or the fact that they were children excused or explained their behaviour.

But they were ten year old children.

On here we see countless threads about how “my 14 year old is having sex/my 13 year old has had a drink/my 22 year old has done something stupid. And every single time* people say how they’re too young to comprehend/consent/know what they’re doing. Even down to the fact that society seems to have decided that brains don’t mature now until about 25, a nice way to let adults away with God-knows-what.

And yet because it was a murder, the fact these children were ten is seemingly irrelevant.

You can’t have it both ways. Either a child is too young to do x/y/z or they’re not. You don’t get to pick and choose based on what they did.

No ten year old who kills a child is normal. No child wakes up one morning and thinks “I know, I’ll go out and abduct a toddler and murder him.” There will have been multiple facts which were missed before any of this happened. IIRC the older brother of one of them begged to be taken into foster care.

They weren’t legally old enough to be tried so the law was changed in order to satisfy the baying mob.

They were children but instead they were tried as adults. Even though they weren’t released for another eight years, once they became adults.

They weren’t old enough to vote, have sex, drive a car, drink legally, but society saw fit to see them as adults not because they were, but because society needed to satisfy their lust for revenge.

If a child is older enough to be tried as an adult for a crime then they’re old enough to drive a car, vote, have sex. there is literally no reason why not other than that it’s not what society wants.

Except we all know that’s not true.

I have tried to leave out the details on how poor James died that day as I think everyone is well aware. I think it’s important to remember him but talking about how he died physically can sometimes be too much for people here.

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OkPedro · 05/06/2025 22:09

Fetaface · 05/06/2025 20:51

ACEs were withdrawn half a decade ago now as it harms people and isn't to be used any longer. People who are abused are less likely to go on to abuse others.

I never heard that about aces. Where did you learn about that?

YouWillFindMeInTheGarden · 05/06/2025 22:10

Mumsnet isn’t all fluffy chat!

that’s what I like about it

NoisyBiscuit · 05/06/2025 22:10

Cheffymcchef · 05/06/2025 22:05

Thanks. I really don’t understand why people come on these threads only to complain about them. Too much time on their hands.

I feel it is the people who enjoy raking over details and speculating about tragedies are the ones that have more time on their hands than anyone else.

InsomniacSloth · 05/06/2025 22:10

Survivingnotthriving24 · 05/06/2025 20:44

I can't imagine a world where you could be rehabilitated to be "normal" and able to live with yourself after committing that crime.

Exactly. Anybody who had genuinely been rehabilitated after doing that wouldn’t want to be alive anymore and would commit suicide from the guilt.

Kibble19 · 05/06/2025 22:11

The Unwatch button is right there, ladies.

I don’t think anyone’s revelling in the details of this terrible event. But it is relevant to speak about the prolonged event that it was when the apologists talk about the killers’ lack of impulse control.

Cheffymcchef · 05/06/2025 22:12

NoisyBiscuit · 05/06/2025 22:10

I feel it is the people who enjoy raking over details and speculating about tragedies are the ones that have more time on their hands than anyone else.

There is an unwatch button for this thread if you don’t want to be updated

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nomas · 05/06/2025 22:13

Genevieva · 05/06/2025 21:52

You remember better than me. I thought Venables came from an abusive home. Both came from poor homes.

It was Thompson that came from an abusive home.

Venables was said to be overly attached to his mother (and hyperactive) but his parents weren’t abusive.

MatildaMovesMountains · 05/06/2025 22:13

Only the press called him Jamie; his parents call him James.

Cheffymcchef · 05/06/2025 22:13

This thread was made clear what it was about by the title, if people do not want to discuss true crime they can avoid clicking on it, or unwatch if they’ve posted

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Cheffymcchef · 05/06/2025 22:14

MatildaMovesMountains · 05/06/2025 22:13

Only the press called him Jamie; his parents call him James.

I have replied to four or five people who said this. I understand however I was not able to edit the post in time.

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nomas · 05/06/2025 22:15

NoisyBiscuit · 05/06/2025 22:10

I feel it is the people who enjoy raking over details and speculating about tragedies are the ones that have more time on their hands than anyone else.

I can’t see that anyone has posted details about what happened that day? This thread is about whether rehabilitation is possible, not raking up details of the horror of that day. If it was about the latter, I’d be out of here.

Lilactimes · 05/06/2025 22:15

Worldwide99 · 05/06/2025 22:04

This is very true. If you had comprehension and guilt surrounding this crime, I’m not sure how you could go living what we call a normal life.

Edited

That’s a really interesting point. If he was truly rehabiliated how would he live with himself? Maybe he struggles every day? Maybe his 10 year old self just feels too far away and like a different person?

YouWillFindMeInTheGarden · 05/06/2025 22:15

Cheffymcchef · 05/06/2025 22:14

I have replied to four or five people who said this. I understand however I was not able to edit the post in time.

It’s fine op
youve explained it already.

Berlinlover · 05/06/2025 22:16

I think they both should have received the death penalty as soon as they turned 18. I don’t believe either of them could ever be rehabilitated.

nomas · 05/06/2025 22:16

Cheffymcchef · 05/06/2025 22:14

I have replied to four or five people who said this. I understand however I was not able to edit the post in time.

OP, if you like, you can report your OP and ask MNHQ to change it to James. Will stop all the comments about it.

Cheffymcchef · 05/06/2025 22:17

nomas · 05/06/2025 22:16

OP, if you like, you can report your OP and ask MNHQ to change it to James. Will stop all the comments about it.

Thankyou I will do that!

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InsomniacSloth · 05/06/2025 22:17

Cheffymcchef · 05/06/2025 21:00

I would presume he’s allowed to have kids but I’m not sure of the rules around working with children in his shoes.

Any child he has should be immediately taken into care if the mother won’t take the baby far, far away from him and ensure there is never any contact. How could he ever be allowed PR for a child or to be left alone with them? That would be insane.

ThatsNotMyTeen · 05/06/2025 22:18

I don’t think any of us can possibly know, but I do of course hope so.

i do recall reading commentary years ago that of the two, Thompson was the most concerning and with the worse childhood and that the thinking was Venables had reoffended due to struggling to come to terms with his guilt

Kibble19 · 05/06/2025 22:18

I saw that part of their licence restrictions is that they can’t go into Merseyside.

I take it the feeling in Liverpool hasn’t changed much since this all happened.

SquashedMallow · 05/06/2025 22:18

Peak Mumsnet lefty liberal behaviour from the OP. Why is it so damn fashionable to have a fetish with understanding evil murderers (be they 10 or be they 50). Yet someone gets done for drink driving on here and dares to admit it and they're shamed beyond all redemption.

Those 2 10 year old boys, despite their youth, not only killed a toddler, but they dragged him away with ill intent, TORTURED him in multiple ways, and ultimately murdered him. Leaving his broken body on a train track - then went home.

Not for one moment did one of them stop each other or quit. It escalated horrifically quite clearly.

This isn't two 10yr olds teasing a fellow pupils. This is abduction, torture, cruelty, murder.

I don't give a flying fuck about anything to do with their home lives or own abuse they may or may not have suffered. Some crimes deserve no redemption and this is one of them.

My sympathy lies with that darling innocent who the world showed the cruellest of fates to. And his mother , who will never 'live' again. Her life would have ended that day.

Give your psychology naval gazing from your comfortable living room a miss.

YouWillFindMeInTheGarden · 05/06/2025 22:20

Berlinlover · 05/06/2025 22:16

I think they both should have received the death penalty as soon as they turned 18. I don’t believe either of them could ever be rehabilitated.

You must be aware we don’t have the death penalty though

Cheffymcchef · 05/06/2025 22:20

InsomniacSloth · 05/06/2025 22:17

Any child he has should be immediately taken into care if the mother won’t take the baby far, far away from him and ensure there is never any contact. How could he ever be allowed PR for a child or to be left alone with them? That would be insane.

Mary Bell has children so presumably Thompson would be allowed to have them too.

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JoyeuxNarwhal · 05/06/2025 22:20

Fetaface · 05/06/2025 20:51

ACEs were withdrawn half a decade ago now as it harms people and isn't to be used any longer. People who are abused are less likely to go on to abuse others.

Can you explain what you mean here please?

Cheffymcchef · 05/06/2025 22:21

SquashedMallow · 05/06/2025 22:18

Peak Mumsnet lefty liberal behaviour from the OP. Why is it so damn fashionable to have a fetish with understanding evil murderers (be they 10 or be they 50). Yet someone gets done for drink driving on here and dares to admit it and they're shamed beyond all redemption.

Those 2 10 year old boys, despite their youth, not only killed a toddler, but they dragged him away with ill intent, TORTURED him in multiple ways, and ultimately murdered him. Leaving his broken body on a train track - then went home.

Not for one moment did one of them stop each other or quit. It escalated horrifically quite clearly.

This isn't two 10yr olds teasing a fellow pupils. This is abduction, torture, cruelty, murder.

I don't give a flying fuck about anything to do with their home lives or own abuse they may or may not have suffered. Some crimes deserve no redemption and this is one of them.

My sympathy lies with that darling innocent who the world showed the cruellest of fates to. And his mother , who will never 'live' again. Her life would have ended that day.

Give your psychology naval gazing from your comfortable living room a miss.

No fetish and I haven’t seen any threads about dui so can’t comment. I have asked mumsnet to add a TW so people know not to click on it if true crime upsets them.

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