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Neurofibromatosis Awareness Month

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NF1Awareness · 23/05/2025 16:31

Have you ever heard of the genetic condition Neurofibromatosis? No? Well, neither had anyone in my family until my 13yr old son was diagnosed with Neurofibromatosis Type 1 (NF1) earlier last year. The subtle signs were there, but our lack of knowledge of the condition meant a diagnosis came many years later than it should have.

Neurofibromatosis (NF) is a genetic disorder that causes tumours to grow on nerves throughout the body. These tumours are usually non-cancerous but can sometimes cause health problems. There’s no cure, but symptoms can be managed with monitoring, medication, or surgery if needed.

Neurofibromatosis Awareness Month is in May each year.

Please take a few minutes to read the information I have included in the photos, as the aim is to raise awareness of a condition that many of us are unaware of. The signs can be (and have been) easily missed by medical professionals, so it’s important that as many people as possible know about it (but these experiences are becoming less and less common now, thankfully).

Proud of you son, and your fellow NF warriors.

Thank you 💙💚

p.s I have name changed for this post, as I have added this post to my own social media pages, and I wish to respect my son’s privacy.

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dementedpixie · 25/05/2025 10:45

I watched a show called 'take my tumour' and one woman on it had the condition but her face was completely covered with tumours as well as other parts of her body. You couldn't make out her features. The surgeon managed to remove a remarkable amount of them over multiple surgeries so you could see the person underneath. They are life changing surgeries and I feel heart sorry for the people affected by the condition. Have also seen Dr pimple popper deal with less severe cases too

NF1Awareness · 25/05/2025 10:46

itsgettingweird Amit Ghose! He’s amazing, isn’t he? I forwarded a clip of this interview to my parents, where he was saying how he wants the condition to define him. He is such an inspiration.

I hope your son is doing well.

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NF1Awareness · 25/05/2025 10:47

Cocolapew love and best wishes to your DD and DH. I hope the condition has been kind to them both.

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NF1Awareness · 25/05/2025 10:51

dementedpixie I haven’t heard of that show. That poor lady. I can only imagine how those facial tumours must have impacted her, both mentally and physically. Modern medicine can do such amazing things these days, and I hope life is kinder to this wonderful lady.

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dementedpixie · 25/05/2025 10:56

It's a fairly new show i think. Think he's a last resort surgeon that tackles cases others won't touch. This is a screenshot from YouTube showing the woman's face. They couldn't insert a needle into her for GA or fit a mask to her face due to tumours so had a lot of the removal under local anaesthetic. Guess she thought it was worth the pain.

I didn't realise all the other issues associated with NF so thanks for drawing attention to it

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fuckitallabit · 25/05/2025 11:01

My cousin had nf2, my friends son has nf1 - he also has learning difficulties and scoliosis, which are sometimes (not always) linked with it. Good luck to you son x

weebarra · 25/05/2025 11:16

My oldest has NF1, he’s 17. It’s been a bit of a journey, he’s had a lot of medical stuff - we joke that he’s completed the hospital. He’s also got ADHD, and neurodivergence is very closely linked to NF1.
He’s doing really well though, he’s just completed his first year of professional cookery at college and has a job.
If you’re not aware of them Childhood Tumour Trust are a great organisation.

itsgettingweird · 25/05/2025 11:50

NF1Awareness · 25/05/2025 10:46

itsgettingweird Amit Ghose! He’s amazing, isn’t he? I forwarded a clip of this interview to my parents, where he was saying how he wants the condition to define him. He is such an inspiration.

I hope your son is doing well.

Yes that was him. I was absolutely hooked on him speaking and showed it to my ds (who has another type of neuro disorder but it’s still visible iyswim?).

taeglas · 25/05/2025 12:10

A friend and her son have NF1. They were both diagnosed after her son's condition was picked up after he was born.

In her case the tumour growths started to affect her balance and she eventually needed to use a wheelchair.
Prior to being in a wheelchair, she would get questioned as to why she was using a disabled bay at the supermarket, despite having a blue badge.

Her son is doing well now, studying for an engineering degree. However he has been through a tough time coping with having NF1.

https://nervetumours.org.uk/help/inform
"At Nerve Tumours UK, we are trying to make sure that all 26,500 people with NF in the UK have access to specialist care. We need your help. Please download the ‘Letter to your GP’ and the ‘Letter to Schools’ and pass these on to the relevant professionals to raise awareness about Nerve Tumours UK’s ‘iNForm’ initiative."

iNForm

Find out more about our programme aimed at improving the care and education for those affected by NF across the country.

https://nervetumours.org.uk/help/inform

NoisyBiscuit · 25/05/2025 12:46

We have just discovered someone in our family has NF1 and I’m besides myself with worry and despair..,the worst thing is you cannot prepare yourself because it affects everyone differently.

NF1Awareness · 25/05/2025 19:21

fuckitallabit thank you. Wishing your friend and her son all the best too. I hope the scoliosis isn’t too severe. My son’s latest MRI picked up on a slight curve in his spine, but they weren’t sure if it was due to his positioning on the table/bed (not sure of the name for the sliding part of the MRI machine!), so this will need to be checked at his next consultant appt. Hopefully it isn’t anything of concern.

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NF1Awareness · 25/05/2025 19:26

weebarra thank you for mentioning CTT. I agree, they are wonderful.

Congratulations to your son 💙. You must all be very proud of him, and all that he has achieved. My son is also ND (the NF was detected during one of his assessments).

Wishing you and your son all the best.

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NF1Awareness · 25/05/2025 19:34

taeglas your friend and her son have certainly been through it. Wishing them both all the best with their NF journeys, and good luck to her son with his education/future career.

Re: blue badges, I wish people would keep their noses out where they’re not wanted!

Thank you for the link for the letters.

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NF1Awareness · 25/05/2025 19:43

NoisyBiscuit sending love and hugs. I know it is so easy to say, but please don’t worry about the unknown (anyone that knows me would never expect those words to come from my mouth!).

Have they joined the Childhood Tumour Trust Facebook page (not sure how old your family member is), or Nerve Tumours UK Facebook page? These have really helped us as we deal with it all.

As you say, we don’t know what the future holds for our NF warriors. I figured I can’t waste time worrying about any future health issues, as it would put me in a very dark place. I would rather enjoy life whilst we can, and deal with any issues as they arise.

I’m happy for you to pm if you wish to.

Wishing you and your family member all the best x

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UName38 · 25/05/2025 20:03

uncomfortablydumb60 · 23/05/2025 22:49

To give you her an example of her bubbly nature and determined spirit, she actually broke her affected leg in a keep fit class.. at which point her( and mine) Orthopaedic surgeon put his head in his hands!
We actually met in Hospital( I have CP)

Bump - I have a different rare disease that can be missed

👋 @uncomfortablydumb60 also have CP and dealt with orthopaedics

Dustyblue · 26/05/2025 03:04

Thanks to everyone who has posted here. It can be a lonely road as a parent- as some of you have mentioned, many doctors have barely heard of it! When I first knew NF was a possible diagnosis for my boy I joined a US forum called Inspire. It certainly provided a lot of information, almost too much at once! I met some lovely people, but most were adults living with NF themselves. I couldn't find much for parents of NF kids.

I thought I'd write down my son's journey, both as information for others and a bit of catharsis for me! Please feel free to skip this if it isn't relevant to your own journey with this condition.

My son D was born when I was almost 42, after 2 previous losses. He was much longed for and I when I was presented with a wailing & flailing baby, after a fast vaginal birth, I actually went into shock. Is it ok? What is it? (meaning boy or girl!).

In the newborn period I suffered from PND, as many new mothers do, but took comfort in all the midwife & doctor appointments to assure me he was fine. He was born with a few cafe au lait marks on his back, but all the professionals wrote them off as birthmarks. He was born small, at 5 pounds 11 ounces but grew quickly. Looking back, it was noted that his head size was in the higher range but everyone said the rest of him would catch up. "He must have big brains" was a term often used.

As a toddler he refused to toilet train and refused to draw pictures with me. When he could speak, he'd repeat "You do it" when I said "let's draw a tree" and so on. I didn't realise what was happening. He wouldn't use cutlery and ate with his hands.

The crunch came when he went to 4 y/o kinder. We're in Australia- they can do 3 y/o kinder but I skipped that since I was a SAHM anyway. The staff noticed various issues that we dismissed. This was during Covid, so kinder wasn't regular anyway. We initially dismissed their concerns. He doesn't like sharing things? Well, he's an only child who's been stuck at home, that's to be expected. It went on like that. They pointed out that when he ran, one of his feet turned in. So, I took him to a physiotherapist I'd previously seen (this guy cured my sciatica, so to me he was a genius) and he realised that one of my son's legs was longer than the other.

We decided to have a pediatric assessment done, still thinking these were minor issues. It was then we realised that the cafe au lait spots had multiplied. I was still passing them off as birthmarks. I have some birthmarks myself, but they've been the same for 40-something years. By that stage I'd also clocked that he had a very large head- but he comes from a family of large heads- another symptom I dismissed.

The pediatrician casually mentioned Neurofibromatosis, probably assuming we'd never heard of it and said we should do a blood test. I almost slid off my chair- I knew exactly what NF was- thanks to some university study in genetics.

As it turns out, he has a genetic variant that in some cases is in line with NF1. This was initially confusing, to say the least. Luckily I've a few doctors in the family who put me in touch with the top specialist in Australia, based at the Royal Children's Hospital in Melbourne. Dr Gabriel Dabscheck - Paediatric Neurologist & Epileptologist - Melbourne. Genetic variant aside, he absolutely has NF1.

So, it's been almost 5 years of monitoring, testing and things I won't detail. I'm so very grateful to Dr Gabe for his knowledge and his continued study into NF. He works with Boston Children's Hospital/Harvard Medical and continues to receive grant money for research.

I'm including this link in case anyone is seeing a doctor who doesn't know much about it or is dismissive of your concerns. Dr Dabscheck is internationally renowned and from what I've seen, quite generous with his time in educating other doctors.

In Australia we have the Childrens Tumor Foundation as our NF charity. I'm so pleased to hear you have the Childhood Tumor Trust in the UK.

Best to all, my apologies for the long post!

Dr Gabriel Dabscheck - Paediatric Neurologist & Epileptologist - Melbourne

Dr Gabriel Dabscheck, Paediatric Neurologist & Epileptologist - Special interests in epilepsy & neurofibromatosis. Melbourne Paediatric Specialists, RCH

https://www.melbournepaediatricspecialists.com.au/profile/dr-gabriel-dabscheck/

NF1Awareness · 26/05/2025 11:40

Dustyblue

please don’t apologise for your post. I found it to be very informative, and so much of your post resonates with our story.

My son also had a large head at birth, and it is still on the larger side. However, large heads run in the family (none of them have NF). My brother was sent to a specialist at birth, as there was concern about his head size, for the doctor to turn to my Mum and declare ‘he just has a very large head!’.

Thank you for the link. I will have a read.

Best wishes to you and your son.

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Kaiken · 30/05/2025 20:16

Dustyblue · 26/05/2025 03:04

Thanks to everyone who has posted here. It can be a lonely road as a parent- as some of you have mentioned, many doctors have barely heard of it! When I first knew NF was a possible diagnosis for my boy I joined a US forum called Inspire. It certainly provided a lot of information, almost too much at once! I met some lovely people, but most were adults living with NF themselves. I couldn't find much for parents of NF kids.

I thought I'd write down my son's journey, both as information for others and a bit of catharsis for me! Please feel free to skip this if it isn't relevant to your own journey with this condition.

My son D was born when I was almost 42, after 2 previous losses. He was much longed for and I when I was presented with a wailing & flailing baby, after a fast vaginal birth, I actually went into shock. Is it ok? What is it? (meaning boy or girl!).

In the newborn period I suffered from PND, as many new mothers do, but took comfort in all the midwife & doctor appointments to assure me he was fine. He was born with a few cafe au lait marks on his back, but all the professionals wrote them off as birthmarks. He was born small, at 5 pounds 11 ounces but grew quickly. Looking back, it was noted that his head size was in the higher range but everyone said the rest of him would catch up. "He must have big brains" was a term often used.

As a toddler he refused to toilet train and refused to draw pictures with me. When he could speak, he'd repeat "You do it" when I said "let's draw a tree" and so on. I didn't realise what was happening. He wouldn't use cutlery and ate with his hands.

The crunch came when he went to 4 y/o kinder. We're in Australia- they can do 3 y/o kinder but I skipped that since I was a SAHM anyway. The staff noticed various issues that we dismissed. This was during Covid, so kinder wasn't regular anyway. We initially dismissed their concerns. He doesn't like sharing things? Well, he's an only child who's been stuck at home, that's to be expected. It went on like that. They pointed out that when he ran, one of his feet turned in. So, I took him to a physiotherapist I'd previously seen (this guy cured my sciatica, so to me he was a genius) and he realised that one of my son's legs was longer than the other.

We decided to have a pediatric assessment done, still thinking these were minor issues. It was then we realised that the cafe au lait spots had multiplied. I was still passing them off as birthmarks. I have some birthmarks myself, but they've been the same for 40-something years. By that stage I'd also clocked that he had a very large head- but he comes from a family of large heads- another symptom I dismissed.

The pediatrician casually mentioned Neurofibromatosis, probably assuming we'd never heard of it and said we should do a blood test. I almost slid off my chair- I knew exactly what NF was- thanks to some university study in genetics.

As it turns out, he has a genetic variant that in some cases is in line with NF1. This was initially confusing, to say the least. Luckily I've a few doctors in the family who put me in touch with the top specialist in Australia, based at the Royal Children's Hospital in Melbourne. Dr Gabriel Dabscheck - Paediatric Neurologist & Epileptologist - Melbourne. Genetic variant aside, he absolutely has NF1.

So, it's been almost 5 years of monitoring, testing and things I won't detail. I'm so very grateful to Dr Gabe for his knowledge and his continued study into NF. He works with Boston Children's Hospital/Harvard Medical and continues to receive grant money for research.

I'm including this link in case anyone is seeing a doctor who doesn't know much about it or is dismissive of your concerns. Dr Dabscheck is internationally renowned and from what I've seen, quite generous with his time in educating other doctors.

In Australia we have the Childrens Tumor Foundation as our NF charity. I'm so pleased to hear you have the Childhood Tumor Trust in the UK.

Best to all, my apologies for the long post!

Dabscheck is not internationally renowned. Very little published on the NF topic , a name amongst others on reviews of other people's work or a bit on autism. Main author only on a study to dumb OPG surveillance to high street optometrists, like specsavers. in total discordance with the guidelines and protocol and focused on cost only.

He isn't the top specialist in Australia or everywhere else. He is just the neurologist kids with NF are referred to if you live in Victoria. Totally inactive on the research scene, the international working groups, ...
He doesn't count. Nobody knows him outside Australia, or even outside Victoria.

Dustyblue · 31/05/2025 02:13

Well, thanks for that. How illuminating.

If you have better advice it might be nice if you shared it. Instead of snarkily pissing on someone who shared a personal story that affects them deeply.

Kaiken · 31/05/2025 03:52

I am not pissing on you or your story. Far from it. I care deeply about the NF community and I wish we had better doctors in Australia. This is why am setting the record straight on Dabscheck's expertise. Very little and poor research and his main published achievement aims at lowering the standard of care, not rising it, when it is already very low in Australia compared to the USA and Europe.

Just compare him https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=dabscheck+nf1 vs Brigitte Widemann https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=widemann+nf1 , Korf https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=korf+nf1 , Wolkenstein https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=wolkenstein++nf1 . Those are the renowned NF experts you should take information from. It is not just the number of papers but the quality and scope of them. Other names of truly renowned NF experts are Legius, Gutmann, Blakeley, Evans, Wang, ....

They raise the bar and expectations, and work hard for better care.

I have plenty of advice which I hope you will find useful. Learn about NF1 and the how and why certain manifestations occur. Start with the INFER Masterclasses which you watch here https://www.youtube.com/@ctfinfer/videos , they have webinars here https://www.ctf.org/conferences-education/ , take part in the NF Summit and you can watch the past years here https://www.ctf.org/nf-summit/(2024. 2023, 2022, 2021) .
You don't specify what your child's issues are beyond a shorter leg, and if this is due to a plexiform neurofibroma or a bone malformation.
I have happy to share manifestation-specific guidelines, protocols, latest research on them. NF1 is a progressive disease, but we know quite a lot about it, and there is room for intervention.
I have plenty of resources to share, real ones, from medical papers and medical conferences, and webinars from NF Network, NF Midwest, ...

dabscheck nf1 - Search Results - PubMed

dabscheck nf1 - Search Results - PubMed

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=dabscheck+nf1

Dustyblue · 31/05/2025 06:44

Thanks for putting these journal articles up. I did read some, not all, several years ago so it will take some time for me to go through them properly!

May I please ask- do you have NF yourself, are you a parent of an NF child or a researcher in the field, etc? I ask because you seem to have a stake in discrediting Dabscheck. No offence meant at all! Knowledge shared is knowledge gained.

I agree he is the 'go-to' doctor for NF in Vic. But I have to disagree that he "doesn't count', as you say. I've chatted with parents in the waiting room at RCH who've travelled from QLD to see him. Surely the people who continue to fund his research do so for a reason?

You don't specify what your child's issues are beyond a shorter leg, and if this is due to a plexiform neurofibroma or a bone malformation.

Bone malformation. He currently has zero fibromas.

I could tell you which Ortho Surgeon he's being monitored by but I'm frightened that you might tell me he's a bit shit too!

Last question for you- are you in Australia, the UK or the US?

Dustyblue · 31/05/2025 07:38

@NF1Awareness Thank you again, for starting this thread.

Please don't be concerned about myself & @Kaiken discussing the various readings, and so on.

My boy is turning 9 in a few weeks! We'll be up at the RCH to see the Orthopaedic Surgeon, and his Clinical Psych.

I don't have much money, but he loves Star Wars so I've bought the Darth Vader set he wants on ebay. Can't wait to give it to him on his birthday!

We live rural, RCH is a good 2 hour drive away- DS knows this means we can stop at Hungry Jacks (aka Burger King). You'd do anything for your kids wouldn't you? :)

Kaiken · 31/05/2025 20:23

I didn't say Dabscheck was shit, I said Dabscheck is not internationally renowned. When I say he doesn't count, I mean on the international platform of research and advancement. His main NF1 paper went against advancement and straight into impoverishment of care. All the BIG names in the NF1 world insist on seeing specialised ophthalmologists, ideally neuro-ophthalmologists and he wants to send us to Specsavers.

He hasn't done meaningful research or advocated to improve care in Australia, or bring much information to patients compared to other who do webinars. When invited to an NF day to offer an informative session, this is what he did s an interactive game . What knowledge would a parent of an NF1 kid get, a big fat zero. Imagine your kid has just been diagnosed, you hope to learn something useful about the disease or its management and you get to learn how far people travel to get to an NF1 clinic.

Which brings me to your second point about Queenslanders.
If you have NF1, unless you live in Sydney, Melbourne or Perth, you have to travel to see someone who deals with NF1 patients. So I am not surprised people from Queensland come to Melbourne, given how overbooked Sydney is , so much that they can only see very complex cases now and delegate the others to GPs. Again, against all best practices around the world.

All the other doctors I have listed are invited around the world to symposiums and conferences to share their knowledge and have listed where you can get to see them. You can watch the recordings of their presentations and learn something.

The only presentation Dabscheck has ever done is the one above. Compare it to this one about the dietary management of NF1. You get away with something. Knowledge you can reflect and act upon.

I just did a quick browse, and realised, I already gave you some of these resources in 2022 at the beginning of your NF1 journey. So I am going to leave this discussion in order not to hijack it further.

I hope your son's surgery goes well.

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NF1Awareness · 01/06/2025 05:26

Dustyblue I hope your son has a lovely birthday. Happy 9th birthday to him! The Star Wars gift sounds perfect 🥰.

A tasty treat is always much deserved after a hospital visit ☺️. Funnily enough, we had a Burger King last night (although I’m severely regretting my decision to have a Diet Coke! It’s 5.25am here in the UK, and I’ve barely slept 🫣).

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NoisyBiscuit · 01/06/2025 08:23

Hi all - I’ve seen a few references here to managing NF1 via diet. Is that a thing?