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Any sympathy for the British drug mule in Georgia?

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mids2019 · 18/05/2025 07:55

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14723481/drug-mule-suspect-company-director-Chinese-retailers-Amazon.html

I was reading about this girl and actually do have a little symapthy. She is obviously vain, stupid, misguidedly ambitious but I don't know whether she is real player in the drug trade and has probably been groomed into carrying drugs by men promising her the earth.

The penalties for drug smuggling are understandably harsh on Georgia but should the UK try and get her to serve a sentence in the UK?

Drug arrest girl 'in China scam to foil Amazon ban'

Culley, 18, is said to have received £550 in return for her passport information, which was then used to open a business account on the digital marketplace.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14723481/drug-mule-suspect-company-director-Chinese-retailers-Amazon.html

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RunningBlueFox · 18/05/2025 09:17

Having 14 kilos of drugs in your bag is not a silly mistake. I feel sorry that she has been so monumentally stupid. Do all the people saying she's a child and her brain isn't fully formed do you think all the teenagers currently in British prisons should be afforded the same leniency you are advocating here? I imagine you don't think foreigners and young men breaking British laws deserve the same levels of sympathy.

SwanOfThoseThings · 18/05/2025 09:18

mids2019 · 18/05/2025 09:12

I am split.

I think looking at her in court it is quite obvious reality has caught up with her and she is proverbally shitting herself.

I think there needs to be punishment but for her life to be literally over for a single episode of drug smuggling? I don't know.

It is a falling that those that put her up to it may not face any sanction and I really do think she probably does have a low IQq coupled with a myriad of mental health issues including being a fanticist.

I'm not sure about the low IQ - she'd apparently just completed an access course to become a student nurse so I'd have thought she'd be of at least average intelligence.

Zanatdy · 18/05/2025 09:18

I do, as I have teenagers and if that happened it would be my first nightmare. Feel for her parents. She is young and naive, no that’s no defence, but I do have some sympathy for her.

Redflamingos · 18/05/2025 09:18

Clinicalwaste · 18/05/2025 09:15

She is young, naive and uneducated. She is vulnerable. They look for people like this. She is a victim and I have a lot of sympathy for her.

You don’t think she has any responsibility for her actions ??

Sherararara · 18/05/2025 09:18

OneOliveZebra · 18/05/2025 08:04

Shes young, everyone did stupid things when they were young

Haha there’s stupid then there’s trafficking drugs stupid.

BreatheAndFocus · 18/05/2025 09:19

Radiatorvalves · 18/05/2025 08:16

My 18 yo said she’d be incriminated by her posts on social media. He thinks she doubly stupid. For doing it and for (apparently) telling the full story.

Exactly that. She made stupid, illegal and dangerous choices, but her ultimate stupidity was chronicling all that on social media, including her with a big pile of cash. How effing thick can you be?

But actually, it’s more than stupidity, it’s social media’s affect on young brains. You choose your avatar, you pout and duck-face, you take those stupid selfies and pose like a model - not for a joke, but because social media has made you think you’re the star of your own blockbuster movie. Reality is pushed into the background.

Do I feel sorry for her? A smidgeon, I suppose, because of her age, but, if found guilty, she needs punishment to make her understand what she did was wrong, and to give her some humility. I was struck by the difference in her social media pics and her in the court room. That’s the real her - the court room version - and she’d do well to remember that.

If she’s found guilty, I think she should serve some prison time in Georgia to knock the lesson in, then be transferred back to the U.K. to serve more time. Personally, I’d make lecturing other young people about stupid choices and the unreality of social media and danger of vanity and arrogance a condition of her release.

SleeplessInWherever · 18/05/2025 09:19

Woollygreymittens · 18/05/2025 09:11

I feel sorry for her. I was clueless at 18. I went to visit my parents in a country where there is a death penalty for drug trafficking. As I was leaving, a man at the airport asked if I’d carry a parcel through customs for him as he was over the limit of duty free. I Stupidly ( being helpful and polite as I’d been brought up) agreed then I saw my dad on the other side of the glass going mad at me to give the parcel back.
Im aware this girls scenario is different from mine but its folly of youth and probably not a middle class, privileged up bringing like I had

She definitely won’t be middle class.

It’s more likely she’s seen the money this has provided her as a way of getting out, and getting access to better “stuff.”

Bitchesbelike · 18/05/2025 09:19

I know some lassies like her: young and daft.
she gives the impression of being someone very low in intelligence.

yeah; I do feel a bit sorry for her: a year in jail is probably enough: but she’ll be made an example of .
while the real baddies are getting away with it

Sadcafe · 18/05/2025 09:19

I suppose a small amount of sympathy in that she’s young and apparently easily swayed, That’s as far as it goes though, I don’t think anyone could claim not to know the potential consequences of smuggling drugs and this was hardly a little tiny bit but several kilos, she will now have to suffer the consequences, whether she was incredibly naive , plain stupid or knew exactly what she was doing.

SparklyBrickViper · 18/05/2025 09:20

Nah.

She’s young, naive, and all the things mentioned but drug smuggling is illegal and she knew that.

Springadorable · 18/05/2025 09:21

mids2019 · 18/05/2025 09:12

I am split.

I think looking at her in court it is quite obvious reality has caught up with her and she is proverbally shitting herself.

I think there needs to be punishment but for her life to be literally over for a single episode of drug smuggling? I don't know.

It is a falling that those that put her up to it may not face any sanction and I really do think she probably does have a low IQq coupled with a myriad of mental health issues including being a fanticist.

Where are you getting all the info about her IQ and mental health status?!

And as for looking scared in court - well yes. We all would.

She hasn't been tricked here - she sold her passport details, got a taste for easy money, and decided she liked the high life and tried to fly kilos of drugs for a bigger pay cheque.

TheyFuckYouUpYourMamAndDad · 18/05/2025 09:21

OneOliveZebra · 18/05/2025 08:04

Shes young, everyone did stupid things when they were young

Huh?? Stupid things like agreeing to smuggle drugs??

Sure, we all did stupid things… but 99.999% of us managed to stay within the law 👍🏻

I have zero sympathy for this girl.

ByNattyOrca · 18/05/2025 09:22

There’s a helluva lot of UK kids get caught up in the drugs trade in the UK alone, and there’s the frequent stabbings to prove it. It would be lovely if all the adults on here who regularly justify their drug use, thought for a second about what they are complicit in.

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 18/05/2025 09:22

No sympathy whatsoever. She's a complete idiot. Was hoping for a champagne lifestyle based on others' misery and fucked up.

MissFenellaPrism · 18/05/2025 09:23

CalicoPusscat · 18/05/2025 09:14

Oh dear, I was just reading about another one, 21 year old woman. I don't understand what the draw is.

Money, glamour.

ILoveBrum · 18/05/2025 09:23

justkeepswimingswiming · 18/05/2025 08:05

Zero sympathy. She knew what she was doing. Young or not — you know not go smuggling drugs!

This! Zero sympathy whatsoever so don’t want her costing the UK taxpayer anything.

Velmy · 18/05/2025 09:23

Nope. No sympathy for greedy idiots.

WavyRavey · 18/05/2025 09:24

Nope, stupid games stupid prizes etc.

MissFenellaPrism · 18/05/2025 09:24

RunningBlueFox · 18/05/2025 09:17

Having 14 kilos of drugs in your bag is not a silly mistake. I feel sorry that she has been so monumentally stupid. Do all the people saying she's a child and her brain isn't fully formed do you think all the teenagers currently in British prisons should be afforded the same leniency you are advocating here? I imagine you don't think foreigners and young men breaking British laws deserve the same levels of sympathy.

Well. Quite. It's the "young white woman" syndrome.

Redflamingos · 18/05/2025 09:24

Zero sympathy.

Why would the UK taxpayer want her back?

MissFenellaPrism · 18/05/2025 09:25

Clinicalwaste · 18/05/2025 09:15

She is young, naive and uneducated. She is vulnerable. They look for people like this. She is a victim and I have a lot of sympathy for her.

In what way is she "uneducated"? She knew what she was doing was criminal. It wasn't a couple of spliffs for her own use.

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 18/05/2025 09:26

Any sympathies I have are for the families who's lives are ruined by addicts.

User57713 · 18/05/2025 09:26

I do. I have 18 and 19 yr olds. They think they know everything but they're just kids.

Weve never explicitly had a "you know not to smuggle drugs" conversation until now, I just assumed they knew that's a bad decision. But we've spelled it out to them now.

My son was horrified by how long this girl might be in prison. He didn't realise the penalties could be so severe. And he was really upset that her family haven't been allowed to see her.

I think he honestly thought that the foreign office or her parents or a lawyer would just arrive and take her home minus the drugs and that would be that.

User7171 · 18/05/2025 09:27

abracadabra1980 · 18/05/2025 09:14

I have sympathy-she's young and has done something daft. The authorities should go after the big boys and drug cartels behind this kind of situation. It is well known that a child's brain isn't fully developed until they are 25.

You can't have it both ways.

Either you're an adult at 18, and you live with the legal consequences of that, or you're a child until 25 and you live with the societal consequences of that.

If you want 24 year olds to be treated as children they should be under parental supervision - no travelling alone, no going away to Uni, no living alone, no drinking, etc., etc.

Otherwise you're creating an age group without adult responsibility but with adult freedom.

It's like the 'Schrödinger's Teenager' paradox I've seen mooted on here before, with parents who think their kids should be free to shag who they want when they want in the parents' house because "they're all growed up now, awww..." but still treat them as little kids and have to get involved when it comes to issues with an employer, etc.

MissFenellaPrism · 18/05/2025 09:27

BreatheAndFocus · 18/05/2025 09:19

Exactly that. She made stupid, illegal and dangerous choices, but her ultimate stupidity was chronicling all that on social media, including her with a big pile of cash. How effing thick can you be?

But actually, it’s more than stupidity, it’s social media’s affect on young brains. You choose your avatar, you pout and duck-face, you take those stupid selfies and pose like a model - not for a joke, but because social media has made you think you’re the star of your own blockbuster movie. Reality is pushed into the background.

Do I feel sorry for her? A smidgeon, I suppose, because of her age, but, if found guilty, she needs punishment to make her understand what she did was wrong, and to give her some humility. I was struck by the difference in her social media pics and her in the court room. That’s the real her - the court room version - and she’d do well to remember that.

If she’s found guilty, I think she should serve some prison time in Georgia to knock the lesson in, then be transferred back to the U.K. to serve more time. Personally, I’d make lecturing other young people about stupid choices and the unreality of social media and danger of vanity and arrogance a condition of her release.

Great idea 👍