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Any sympathy for the British drug mule in Georgia?

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mids2019 · 18/05/2025 07:55

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14723481/drug-mule-suspect-company-director-Chinese-retailers-Amazon.html

I was reading about this girl and actually do have a little symapthy. She is obviously vain, stupid, misguidedly ambitious but I don't know whether she is real player in the drug trade and has probably been groomed into carrying drugs by men promising her the earth.

The penalties for drug smuggling are understandably harsh on Georgia but should the UK try and get her to serve a sentence in the UK?

Drug arrest girl 'in China scam to foil Amazon ban'

Culley, 18, is said to have received £550 in return for her passport information, which was then used to open a business account on the digital marketplace.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14723481/drug-mule-suspect-company-director-Chinese-retailers-Amazon.html

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MissFenellaPrism · 18/05/2025 17:02

Exactly, @PhilippaGeorgiou . That was my point. I chose to visit Brunei, therefore I obeyed their laws, which are clear enough. I think most people understand that about foreign travel. It's not about whether you agree with a country's laws or not.

PiggyPigalle · 18/05/2025 17:03

Snorlaxo · 18/05/2025 16:11

👏 to the person pointing out the 18-24 year olds who are able to function in adult society by being responsible and working in jobs.

She was doing a nursing course but posted pics of herself smoking spliffs and celebrating criminality. Fucking hell- why wouldn’t someone tell her that kind of content would lead to getting the sack or not being able to become a nurse. 🤦🏻‍♀️

I’m shocked how many call this a silly mistake. A “silly mistake” would be getting a bollocking from college for the spliff video - not being a drug mule and risking prison abroad.

I’m willing to bet that an 18 year old male (especially if he’s black) wouldn’t get the same excuses like ND or naïveté. The 18 year old black boy is Dubai who was imprisoned for underage sex is the only time I’ve seen otherwise.

I'm going.
She was not doing a nursing course. That would be University for three years. She had been at her local college, wanting to be a nurse. She's been out of the UK since last May, so not taking it seriously. Probably complete bollocks anyway, reporters have to fill columns.
You know like that gangster shot by the cop who "was an aspiring architect." Just a passing comment picked up by the reporter from his mum, I bet.
Imagine her getting up at 5 am for a twelve hour shift? Hardly.

MaidOfSteel · 18/05/2025 17:13

OneOliveZebra · 18/05/2025 08:04

Shes young, everyone did stupid things when they were young

Not quite international drug smuggling, though.

cakeorwine · 18/05/2025 17:16

DS is off to Thailand soon. I hope I have drummed into him what the dangers are. I've backpacked around there and I remember checking my backpack many times. I've seen Bangkok Hilton and Midnight Express.

There have been many stories of British people who get caught drug smuggling abroad. I have little sympathy for people who knowingly do this.

However - many many many British people go to Thailand, Indonesia etc and manage to have an amazing time and come back safely.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 18/05/2025 17:16

mids2019 · 18/05/2025 15:46

But I think looking at the girl she is not a hardened cartel leader but a very naive teenager who probably was heavily influenced by male gang members into doing something criminal.

This is not an excuse but I would think if she got a 6 month jail sentence without a previous conviction she would probably never go near drugs again and if at all possible becomes a nurse. Also it was a crime of greed not malice

If she comes out with a sentence comparable to Wayne Couzens or the Southport killer then justice in my humble

Some Big Boys made her do it? Really?

I don't care if she's just done a BTEC in health & social care, she's the last person anybody would want with keys to the drugs cabinet.

mids2019 · 18/05/2025 17:18

NeverDropYourMooncup

OK maybe a nursing career is gone but I do think people do really stupid things for love.

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XxSideshowAuntSallyx · 18/05/2025 17:22

mids2019 · 18/05/2025 16:23

Smoking a spliff does not equate in my opinion to criminality that leads to extremely harsh sentences. We have many artists for young people from Stormzy to Chalie XCX celebrating drug culture so should we limit celebratory endorsement of drugs as drug taking is not edgy or cool and those involved in their sale face very harsh penalties?

It seems like this young woman was caught up in a fantasy and just was blinded to the criminality. I guess if you smoke weed yourself and it does no manifest harm to your self then you may view sale of the drug as simply a commercial operation...I don't know.

Personally I think she should serve a sentence in the UK which is proportionate and allows for redemption and rehabilitation which is part of the purpose of prison.

I used to do drugs when I was younger. I knew the penalty for getting caught, I also knew smuggling drugs into a country was the most stupid thing you could do.

It's all glamorous and good until they get caught. Then off come the fake nails, stupid pout, barely there clothes. Out come the glasses, hair in plaits and teenage clothes and the sob stories.

MissFenellaPrism · 18/05/2025 17:26

mids2019 · 18/05/2025 17:18

NeverDropYourMooncup

OK maybe a nursing career is gone but I do think people do really stupid things for love.

They do. What has that got to do with this case?

InterIgnis · 18/05/2025 17:27

mids2019 · 18/05/2025 17:18

NeverDropYourMooncup

OK maybe a nursing career is gone but I do think people do really stupid things for love.

Sure, and they have to deal with the consequences of said decisions.

Such is life.

Panterusblackish · 18/05/2025 17:28

She likely did it for the money.

Like she did when she sold her identity.

She's a drug smuggler engaging in a deeply harmful trade.

She's also stupid enough to post pictures of herself smoking drugs, and as for the oh please totally objectify me menfolk in my itsy bitsy bikini picture, well it makes me want to vomit.

She wanted the lavish lifestyle without the work. She deserves what she gets.

Uricon2 · 18/05/2025 17:30

mids2019 · 18/05/2025 17:18

NeverDropYourMooncup

OK maybe a nursing career is gone but I do think people do really stupid things for love.

I've certainly done some really stupid things for love, but none involved smuggling kilos of drugs, even at 18. It seems to be the same for most of the population, otherwise we'd have very big prisons with few people on the outside.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 18/05/2025 18:08

It may be true that the brain is not fully mature until the age of 25, but this doesn’t mean that there is no maturity whatsoever at age 24 years, 11 months and 29 days, and it magically arrives in a lump as soon as the person turns 25!

Maturity and sense develop during childhood, adolescence and young adulthood. At 25 years old, I was a fully qualified nurse, with a post basic qualification in Theatre nursing, trusted to hold the Dangerous Drug cupboard keys, and to scrub for major surgery. The women I qualified with were running wards, caring for very sick patients. We qualified at about the age of 21 and were expected to take on some very serious responsibilities - no-one was saying we were too immature to be trusted!

BombayBicycleclub · 18/05/2025 18:20

No

MissFenellaPrism · 18/05/2025 18:45

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 18/05/2025 18:08

It may be true that the brain is not fully mature until the age of 25, but this doesn’t mean that there is no maturity whatsoever at age 24 years, 11 months and 29 days, and it magically arrives in a lump as soon as the person turns 25!

Maturity and sense develop during childhood, adolescence and young adulthood. At 25 years old, I was a fully qualified nurse, with a post basic qualification in Theatre nursing, trusted to hold the Dangerous Drug cupboard keys, and to scrub for major surgery. The women I qualified with were running wards, caring for very sick patients. We qualified at about the age of 21 and were expected to take on some very serious responsibilities - no-one was saying we were too immature to be trusted!

Quite! Like many others, I was a qualified teacher at 22, and by 25 had been working in an inner city comprehensive school for 3 years. I think most of us 18-25 manage our impulse control and don't go drug trafficking, even when our brains weren't "mature" and we were "only just" adults.

TheMVPSTurningmyheartbeatup · 18/05/2025 18:50

MissFenellaPrism · 18/05/2025 16:26

You're missing the point. She didn't commit the crime in the UK. She is subject to Georgia's jurisdiction. She knew it was a commercial operation all right, an illegal one.

Exactly she broke the law's of another country and will be dealt with accordingly.
If she was serious about becoming a nurse she wouldn't have done this because surely she would have known any conviction for drugs would have barred her from the off.

WellDoneThatSupremeCourt · 18/05/2025 19:01

AnonAnonmystery · 18/05/2025 15:37

Above all she’s someone’s daughter, sister friend and she is human (and very nieve).

If being human, or being someone's child, were a defence, there wouldn't be much point in having a criminal justice system anywhere in the world.

OonaStubbs · 18/05/2025 19:49

Does Georgia have the death sentence?

Sarah2891 · 18/05/2025 19:55

OonaStubbs · 18/05/2025 19:49

Does Georgia have the death sentence?

No it doesn't

Lordlaughaloud · 18/05/2025 20:10

MissFenellaPrism · 18/05/2025 17:26

They do. What has that got to do with this case?

Exactly. It’s like people are just throwing out random cliches at this point

“She’s human” “someone’s child” “ people do daft things for love” and “we all make mistakes” blah blah

none of this addresses the fact she’s guilt of a very serious crime that she likely did out of greed and a desire for a quick buck.

Uricon2 · 18/05/2025 20:11

If I had to guess, she'll do a couple of years of her sentence in Georgia (and I profoundly hope that she isn't pregnant to inflict this on a baby) and then be shipped back here where she'll do a vastly decreased sentence.

I'd hope she'll be a warning to the "poor, naive, daft, silly" ones who come after her but sadly, I don't think there is that long a memory.

ETA if she ever had any ambition to, she'll never be a nurse now. Thank God. Would you trust her with the keys to a cupboard containing diamorphine?

Lordlaughaloud · 18/05/2025 20:14

PiggyPigalle · 18/05/2025 17:03

I'm going.
She was not doing a nursing course. That would be University for three years. She had been at her local college, wanting to be a nurse. She's been out of the UK since last May, so not taking it seriously. Probably complete bollocks anyway, reporters have to fill columns.
You know like that gangster shot by the cop who "was an aspiring architect." Just a passing comment picked up by the reporter from his mum, I bet.
Imagine her getting up at 5 am for a twelve hour shift? Hardly.

exacrly, people can say they wanted to be anything without actually taking steps towards achieving it . They’ve chosen to go with nurse because it sounds good and she may have mentioned it once at age 16 or something.

And if she was actually serious about that wel good thing she was caught before she did pursue it - this isn’t the type of person we need there as she’s shown herself to be very deceptive.

ZepherinDrouhin · 18/05/2025 20:26

I read somewhere that female drugs smugglers get pregnant on purpose hoping they get a lighter sentence if caught. It's all very calculated, so they're not all the innocent, naive teens they pretend to be.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 18/05/2025 20:30

Usually when a country reverses liberal drug laws it means they've had massive social problems as a result. Look at Holland, for example.

Cherrytree86 · 18/05/2025 20:37

No