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Any sympathy for the British drug mule in Georgia?

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mids2019 · 18/05/2025 07:55

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14723481/drug-mule-suspect-company-director-Chinese-retailers-Amazon.html

I was reading about this girl and actually do have a little symapthy. She is obviously vain, stupid, misguidedly ambitious but I don't know whether she is real player in the drug trade and has probably been groomed into carrying drugs by men promising her the earth.

The penalties for drug smuggling are understandably harsh on Georgia but should the UK try and get her to serve a sentence in the UK?

Drug arrest girl 'in China scam to foil Amazon ban'

Culley, 18, is said to have received £550 in return for her passport information, which was then used to open a business account on the digital marketplace.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14723481/drug-mule-suspect-company-director-Chinese-retailers-Amazon.html

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Happywishful · 18/05/2025 10:57

zingally · 18/05/2025 10:46

I feel sorry for her in that she's just a stupid little girl who has now ruined her own life.
However, this also falls into the category of "fuck around and find out."

My main question is though... Where are her parents??!

I don't know about you, but at 18 I was still under a fairly tight leash until I went off to uni. I was doing things like taking driving lessons and revising for my A-Levels. Not jetting off to the far east for a month on my own.

Her parents are divorced. Her father flew with his sister and are speaking to the English embassy to try to speak to his daughter.

Mother lives in a council house with the youngest son.

I think the girls is a bit stupid and naive. I do have sympathy.

Digdongdoo · 18/05/2025 10:57

Cognacsoft · 18/05/2025 10:51

I only remember lots of sympathy for the young , black guy and outrage at the girls mother.
But then I'm not looking for an angle that doesn't exist.

The threads still exists. You can go back and reread.

sandrafarringdon66 · 18/05/2025 10:58

The young girl had flown from Thailand to Georgia with a suitcase of 14 kgs of drugs, she was incredibly lucky to get caught in Georgia because had she been caught in Thailand it would mean death penalty. Thailand has zero tolerance for drug traffickers and large quantities of drugs carry death sentences. Smuggling drugs in any country is stupid but smuggling drugs in Thailand is another level of stupid.

butteredradish4 · 18/05/2025 10:58

Happywishful · 18/05/2025 10:49

I feel very sorry for her and her family. Very young and naive.

What do you really know at 18? It takes a long time to grow up.

I know that taking drugs was illegal let alone importing massive quantities.

Newbutoldfather · 18/05/2025 10:59

I am always sympathetic to people desperate enough to cross borders with drugs for a few hundred or few thousand pounds, in return for risking a prolonged prison sentence (or worse).

You wonder whether they are stupid, naive, desperate or a combination of the three.

I do think the penalties for drug smuggling are harsh. Obviously, they need to be significant enough to deter, but arresting a mule is like taking one bundle off a conveyor belt of bundles stretching to in infinity.

They need to tackle the people making millions and even billions as a first port of call.

Certainly, mules need to go to prison. But you would have to be heartless if you didn’t want them to spend the majority of their time in the U.K.

sandrafarringdon66 · 18/05/2025 11:00

butteredradish4 · 18/05/2025 10:58

I know that taking drugs was illegal let alone importing massive quantities.

Importing massive quantities from a country that carries the death penalty for importing massive quantities.

There's stupid and then there's "stupid".

MissFenellaPrism · 18/05/2025 11:01

OneBadKitty · 18/05/2025 10:39

Actually, it's known that the brain does not reach full cognitive functioning until at least age 25, which is why teens are much more likely to take risks. They may be legally an adult, and of course most don't take huge risks which land them in prison or dead, but they are all still developing. My own DD is very independent and sensible at 19 compared to many, but she definitely acts as if she's invincible and often needs support and advice from older adults at times to help her make more measured decisions; she often does things which leave my old cautious heart in my mouth, but it's part of the learning curve!

I still don't think it's an excuse. If your child is taught by a 24 year old teacher, or your bloods are done by a 22 year old nurse, you rightly expect competency. You don't say "oh, they're still basically a child, it's ok to cock up".

MissFenellaPrism · 18/05/2025 11:01

sandrafarringdon66 · 18/05/2025 11:00

Importing massive quantities from a country that carries the death penalty for importing massive quantities.

There's stupid and then there's "stupid".

Quite.

DarkLindt · 18/05/2025 11:01

Todayisaday · 18/05/2025 08:49

When i was 21 I travelled in thailand and we met this nice group of lads living there fom our home town who we hang around with. They gave me a book 'forget you had a daughter' an auto biography of a girl who this happened to. And endes up doing a decade in a thai prison.
Suggest this reading for anyone whos kids are travelling or planning to.
It explains how a nice kid can end up like this.
Its a good book to read regardless and anyone with interest in how this can happen should read it.

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I read this book too - essential reading for young people in my opinion.

Digdongdoo · 18/05/2025 11:01

Newbutoldfather · 18/05/2025 10:59

I am always sympathetic to people desperate enough to cross borders with drugs for a few hundred or few thousand pounds, in return for risking a prolonged prison sentence (or worse).

You wonder whether they are stupid, naive, desperate or a combination of the three.

I do think the penalties for drug smuggling are harsh. Obviously, they need to be significant enough to deter, but arresting a mule is like taking one bundle off a conveyor belt of bundles stretching to in infinity.

They need to tackle the people making millions and even billions as a first port of call.

Certainly, mules need to go to prison. But you would have to be heartless if you didn’t want them to spend the majority of their time in the U.K.

Why would assume there is any desperation? What a cop out.

CantStopMoving · 18/05/2025 11:02

Digdongdoo · 18/05/2025 10:45

I think it's interest to compare the language here vs the language used on the thread about the young black man who had consensual sex with another teenager in Dubai. He wasn't naïve, he wasn't so young, he wasn't foolish or suggestible... and his "crime" isn't even a crime in most of the world.
Wonder why there's so much sympathy for this particular serial criminal?

Actually most people were very much on his side about how badly he’d been treated. I personally think he was treated appallingly

Silvertulips · 18/05/2025 11:02

We have no idea of she was threatened or her family was threatened.

She may have known it was wrong - but her social media accounts are in her favour.

MagneticSquirrel · 18/05/2025 11:03

No sympathy. Everyone knows they should carry anything for anyone else on flight. You get asked on check-in (both online and desk) and have to declare you are only carry what you have packed and know about. If you lie and get caught then that’s fair enough. Otherwise everyone would be sending drugs by commercial passengers!

Happywishful · 18/05/2025 11:03

viques · 18/05/2025 10:45

No sympathy. Yes she has unfortunately been targeted and probably manipulated by some form of organised crime group , but she is old enough and smart enough to know that people who have wads of cash in used bank notes and ask you to carry suitcases that are full of stuff that isn’t yours to other countries are up to no good. I really hope she isn’t pregnant and has only said that in the hope it would get her some advantages in prison.

Dont think she is old enough or smart enough. I think she is very stupid and naive,

chunkyblighter · 18/05/2025 11:03

Not very sympathetic but I don't think they should lock her up forever. However, Georgia can pay for her jail term, I don't think she should serve it here. Not easy for prison visits but there you go. Play silly games, win silly prizes.

Houseshmouse · 18/05/2025 11:04

She didn't do this willingly, no sane person would do this no matter how money hungry they were.
She was coerced and trafficked.

MissFenellaPrism · 18/05/2025 11:05

I think all this infantilising of young adults doesn't do them any favours and perhaps leads to the erroneous belief that nothing will happen to them, or mum and dad will sort them out.

Nicecuppatea2025 · 18/05/2025 11:05

On the plus side, this whole situation serves as a great warning to other young people and I’m sure this story will dissuade others to go down this route.

At 18, life can feel like a game. What a disaster, to give your youth over, so willingly, to criminal activity.

The Chinese Amazon thing is far from a red herring. It’s an indicator of Bella becoming involved in something much bigger.

UnsolvedMysteriesRobertStack · 18/05/2025 11:05

Have you never watched “Banged up Abroad?”
Sane people do it all the time.

MissFenellaPrism · 18/05/2025 11:05

Houseshmouse · 18/05/2025 11:04

She didn't do this willingly, no sane person would do this no matter how money hungry they were.
She was coerced and trafficked.

Really? Have you evidence for the coercion? I've not seen that.

FoxChops · 18/05/2025 11:06

She’s 18 years old. Just a silly young girl/woman who hasn’t been able to think this one through. Of course I have sympathy for her.

whynotwhatknot · 18/05/2025 11:10

no sympathy posing with wads of cash means shes done ti previously and got away with it

her family saying shes an intelligent girl-well shes not is she-you dont publicly declare youre breaking the law and say your bonnie and clyde

MissFenellaPrism · 18/05/2025 11:10

FoxChops · 18/05/2025 11:06

She’s 18 years old. Just a silly young girl/woman who hasn’t been able to think this one through. Of course I have sympathy for her.

So, if an 18 year old boy/man broke into your house and stole your valuables, would you excuse him? Would you say "he didn't think it through"?

BMW6 · 18/05/2025 11:11

Silvertulips · 18/05/2025 11:02

We have no idea of she was threatened or her family was threatened.

She may have known it was wrong - but her social media accounts are in her favour.

Don't be ridiculous. She has posts on SM about how she emulates Bonnie Parker and pics of wodges of bank notes, and how she loves fucking on foreign hotel balconies.

She revelled in her criminality.

Anjo2011 · 18/05/2025 11:12

None. Some people think they are invincible and above the law. Many countries won’t put up with the shit we do in the UK. We all did silly things when we were younger but never once did I think what a great earner it would be to smuggle drugs.

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