Scrapping ehcp 's for children in mainstream school

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I can't do a link on my tablet but contact a family have said on their Facebook page about ehcp's being scrapped for children in mainstream school. Not sure if it happening or just being discussed.

I have 2 dc in mainstream school with an ehcp. Dc4 has learning disabilities and is thriving with support. Dc5 has autism and is emotionally like a toddler at age 11. He wouldn't be safe at school without his ehcp. There are loads of children who are like them in mainstream school who would have been in special needs school when I was young.

Well that’s not going to happen is it. Don’t believe everything you read.

Din’t believe random things people have ‘read’ on facebook.

Oh well if someone said it on Facebook ... Must be true...

I have read the same thing too in connection with bedford borough council

Feel free to post a source...

According to the Governments senior strategic advisor on SEND it is very much being discussed as part of Labour's plan to reform the SEND sector and will impact 240,000 children if it happens, support won't be withdrawn overnight though it will be gradually removed and mainstream schools will be expected to step up, whether they keep the funding under a non ECHP process I don't know https://schoolsweek.co.uk/ehcp-shake-up-considered-as-part-of-send-reforms-adviser-confirms/

I think it's more about scrapping the H and C part of the EHCPs, as in, not having to wait for Health and Social Care involvement/input before a child gets the appropriate support in school. It's not about getting rid of the support, but slimming down the admin required to get there. At least that's how I read it, I'm happy to be corrected. (Didn't read it on Facebook, read it in a news article which I now can't find).

They're looking at reforming them. Which isn't the same as scrapping them

https://schoolsweek.co.uk/ehcp-shake-up-considered-as-part-of-send-reforms-adviser-confirms/

Exactly. Looks like they’re trying to make them work better for children.

DD has finally got one (and support) after a decade of asking for help. They'd better not send us back to the start.

There is a white paper due soon I think - this article explains more about the options they are looking at its behind a paywall so I'm hoping the archive link will work https://archive.ph/8Cf1X

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJuk-20sWGc/?igsh=cjNrZ3V2cm5wZ3Jq

Thankyou. I wouldn't trust some random person on facebook but I thought contact a family was a reliable source.

That would be ludicrous. The whole reason students manage in the mainstream school is because of their echp

Actually OP is party correct. 1 of the options being considered is only granting EHCPs to kids in specialist SEN schools

https://www.specialneedsjungle.com/what-government-bold-scrap-ehcp-vulnerable-children/

https://inews.co.uk/news/250000-send-pupils-lose-ehcps-extra-support-3696336?srsltid=AfmBOoqkEvMaopUkXVzDTGF1CYDAez_-dM39ElTuXDGHq7gvDib6Owff

@midlandsmummy123 I'd love to know what stepping up looks like.
At the moment teachers in the main don't know or understand sen, at all

The general ignorance across the education sector is unacceptable
So how on earth can they be expected to step up and let's say one teacher does become tooled up in pre empting one students sensory triggers and is managing another allowed movement breaks and is helping another with dyslexia how can one person effectively teach and manage behavior all at once?

We need tons more primary schools, smaller classes, specialist help there for sen and mental health issues and go from there.
We need far more interest in sen and kindness and understanding from the educational sector but one teacher can't do that alone.

At the moment an echp is that thin line between the student getting no recognition or understanding at all and having a slither of paper to give them some protection in our archaic system.

And now several links have been given do you still think it won't happen? Remember they are pushing the narrative of "inclusion"

LOL I love that you think we don't already do this in mainstream.

You could be describing one of my classes there, which I manage with 0 support - not even an LSA. I am in my first year of teaching.

We do it because we have no choice - the children are there, the support is not. What else can we do?

I have no doubt the changes to EHCPs will include an argument that the ability to attend mainstream school precludes the need for one. The system is utterly broken.

I hate that word/narrative/rhetoric.

There is no such thing as "inclusion." It is simply not meeting needs.

Exactly but hey at least they can then say that they've "solved" the SEN crisis!

Phillipson is a complete menace + danger to education!

They’d better get hundreds of specialist schools built then in that case as these children will still have significant needs and getting rid of EHCP’s won’t change that.

@MoreIcedLattePlease

I did say in the main many teachers are not taught about sen.
Many teacher don't even read the ehcp or understand it.

Many teachers just struggle managing one class with needs.
My point is a wider one about general true ignorance of sen and secondly if a teacher is clued up with stragety and tips how can they do it alone.
Both ways are unacceptable however for that child the thin line is that ehcp.

Lol I'm also in education and I see this first hand.

They aren't doing that! They will just end access to any child not currently in a specialist setting.
The children will still have the needs but there will be no legal requirements for a school to meet those needs

Nottinghamshire County Council used to tell new governors on their induction course, "the policy of this Council is that we do NOT issue EHCPS"

They fell foul of certain new governors who were very informed of the legislation and put them straight in no uncertain terms - but yep, some councils will try any shit possible already.