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DD17 having issues at work, not sure how to support her with this.

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ClockwatchingClara · 10/05/2025 11:29

DD got her first job last October. She was 16 at the time, it was a seasonal weekend job to start, at a well known UK store (think on the lines of B&M/Home bargains). Not the best place to work (not if you check out glassdoor) but she wanted to earn some money alongside college and it's good for her confidence. It is also really hard to get work in our area atm.

The only training she received was online at home the week before she started and was then thrown in the deep end as such by being placed on the tills from the first day. She has done really well and it really has boosted her confidence.
DD was and still is the youngest staff member there (turned 17 just this week).

The manager is a lovely guy and everyone got on well with him and the assistant manager. However, a couple of months ago they both left due to promotions elsewhere within the company. Before he left the store dd's seasonal contract was coming to an end, he asked if she wanted to stay on, she accepted but a new contract has never been drawn up.

A few months on and the new manager is completely different. She has never fully introduced herself to the staff and rarely comes down on the shop floor, unlike the previous manager. She seems to want nothing to do with the younger staff and has hardly spoken to dd, it appears she is not well liked amongst the staff. An assistant manager also started a few weeks ago but dd doesn't even know her name and has never met her.

The company has an app for staff and all their hours/shifts and annual leave etc is shown on this app.

With the old manager, he was happy staff giving approx 2 weeks notice for all annual leave requests. However, dd has tried putting AL in 4 times recently and each time it has been almost instantly declined by the new manager with no explanation even though dd has given the full two weeks notice.

DD had asked for this weekend off to celebrate her birthday with friends but this was declined, she then asked for next weekend which was also declined. She then put in for next month, giving 4 weeks notice but this has been left open with no decision made (she put this in a week ago). I suggested dd talk to the manager about this when she goes in today. Last night she checked on the staff rota only to discover the manager is on AL this weekend, next and the following weekend! Dd said she has had several weekends off since she started a few months ago.
And the dd checked to see the manager has now put up the rota for next month having completely ignored dd's request for AL and given her shifts for that weekend. She also keeps trying to change dd shifts at last notice. Last weekend she was due to work 3-7pm Sat and 10-2 on the Sun, this had been set for weeks. On the Friday before she suddenly changed the hours, Sat 11-7pm, Sun 11-4 and then added the bank holiday Monday 10-3 (dd only works Sat and Sun). We were going away from Sunday afternoon to Monday so dd had to ring the store. Staff have no direct number for the manager, they have to ring the customer service number the same as customers do but they never answer so it took hours to get through to her and when dd explained the situation the manager seemed pissed off (I was listening as she was on loud speaker), yet she feels its fine to give 2 days notice to change and add extra hours to DD's shifts but won't accept AL when 4 weeks notice is given.

I have told dd that as the manager is off for the next 2 weeks and we need to book time away she should contact HR seeing that she has buggered off on annual leave and left dd's request unopened but I know dd won't go over this manager as she is wary of her and most of the younger ones who started at the same time as dd have left because of this women and the ones remaining all detest her.

I am not sure what else to suggest, dd isn't happy there but likes the extra money, unfortunately I am currently not working due to some health issues and I just can't afford to give her money for clothes and make up right now.

What would you advise if this was your dc?

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ClockwatchingClara · 10/05/2025 13:15

xanthomelana · 10/05/2025 13:06

Also worth trying Reddit to see if there’s a sub for where she works. They’ve got them for most retailers and if you post in there you’ll get replies from employees including management regarding the holiday policy and HR details. I know Reddit can be a cess pit but it’s handy for stuff like this.

Just looked, nothing unfortunately.

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Aintnomountainlowenough · 10/05/2025 13:19

This will go against the grain here but I’d happily fight unreasonable with unreasonable and pull the odd sickie. The manager sounds utterly rubbish.

Somethingscintilling · 10/05/2025 13:24

Op range hq comes up quickly on Google search I'd just contact them say can't find hr stuff etc need help

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xanthomelana · 10/05/2025 13:29

ClockwatchingClara · 10/05/2025 13:14

No employee handbook!
All she has is the contract from her seasonal contract and the companies app which has very limited info on.

She definitely needs to get out of there. A company with no employee handbook isn’t good because you’ll have managers making up the rules as they go along to suit themselves.

ClockwatchingClara · 10/05/2025 13:35

Aintnomountainlowenough · 10/05/2025 13:19

This will go against the grain here but I’d happily fight unreasonable with unreasonable and pull the odd sickie. The manager sounds utterly rubbish.

She has been tempted lol

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swipeup347 · 10/05/2025 13:35

Trying to find a job at 17/18/19 is so tough - no one seems to want to employ inexperienced teenagers. My DD is 18 ad decided uni wasn't for her so she got a full tine job in the same company my sister works for- she has been given very little training and the older women who work there are really nasty to her. She suffers with anxiety and they keep nit picking at her and telling the boss if she makes little mistakes. Like your DD when she started she had a lovely boss who was really understanding and knew she was inexperienced but was helping her gain experience and knowledge but she left to go a different office and the new boss hates young employees as they cry moan and always need teaching what to do. She has been called in a few times for invompetencies since the new boss has started and she basically says as a company and as her boss they don't spoon feed here and if you can't teach yourself and work on your own initiative you will never succeed in the working world. Older women there are preying on her vulnerability and love watching her fail!

She is looking and applying for other roles bit no one seems to want to take on youngsters as they cannot be bothered to teach them or support them - they seem to prefer someone either 20 yrs experience who can just slot in.

She has alot of friends who just can't get jobs or when they do they are bullied or treated like shit.

I don't know what the answer is though.

ClockwatchingClara · 10/05/2025 13:36

Somethingscintilling · 10/05/2025 13:24

Op range hq comes up quickly on Google search I'd just contact them say can't find hr stuff etc need help

I have found the address in Plymouth but no contact number or email though. I may have to do some further googling.

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ClockwatchingClara · 10/05/2025 13:40

swipeup347 · 10/05/2025 13:35

Trying to find a job at 17/18/19 is so tough - no one seems to want to employ inexperienced teenagers. My DD is 18 ad decided uni wasn't for her so she got a full tine job in the same company my sister works for- she has been given very little training and the older women who work there are really nasty to her. She suffers with anxiety and they keep nit picking at her and telling the boss if she makes little mistakes. Like your DD when she started she had a lovely boss who was really understanding and knew she was inexperienced but was helping her gain experience and knowledge but she left to go a different office and the new boss hates young employees as they cry moan and always need teaching what to do. She has been called in a few times for invompetencies since the new boss has started and she basically says as a company and as her boss they don't spoon feed here and if you can't teach yourself and work on your own initiative you will never succeed in the working world. Older women there are preying on her vulnerability and love watching her fail!

She is looking and applying for other roles bit no one seems to want to take on youngsters as they cannot be bothered to teach them or support them - they seem to prefer someone either 20 yrs experience who can just slot in.

She has alot of friends who just can't get jobs or when they do they are bullied or treated like shit.

I don't know what the answer is though.

It really is so hard to find work atm.

I have no understanding of why an adult would want to be so mean to younger employees, I have always been kind to those more inexperienced than me as I still remember what it feels like to be the young and the newbie. Some people are dreadful, horrible humans.

I really feel for your dd, I hope she manages to find something new soon.

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ClockwatchingClara · 10/05/2025 13:43

queenrollo · 10/05/2025 13:42

https://contactout.com/David-Garland-82783098

scroll down for his work email. This is head of HR at The Range

Thank you.

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Somethingscintilling · 10/05/2025 14:02

01752 is the no I can see but my goodness if you see the reviews on there?? Awful, dreadful shift patterns, low pay etc

The company doesn't seem good at all, help dd find another job, every sad that billionaire owners can get away with this

UniqueRedSquid · 10/05/2025 14:08

I worked at a very well known catalogue store when I was that age and had a similar experience with being kept on after Christmas with no new contract and them trying to work me all weekend with no sniff at annual leave.

Ultimately I told them I wasn’t contracted so wouldn’t be attending one weekend. Suddenly a contract appeared and my leave was granted.

I struggled to get annual leave later and pointed out I was on a four hour contract and would only be working four hours (rather than 14-16) if I couldn’t get leave. Never had a problem again.

I’d advise your daughter what to do but certainly leave it for her to face it down.

HermioneWeasley · 10/05/2025 14:14

She should ask the assistant manager for a copy of the handbook - it will be accessible somewhere. I would also expect the whistleblowing details to be on a notice board or similar

ClockwatchingClara · 10/05/2025 14:17

Somethingscintilling · 10/05/2025 14:02

01752 is the no I can see but my goodness if you see the reviews on there?? Awful, dreadful shift patterns, low pay etc

The company doesn't seem good at all, help dd find another job, every sad that billionaire owners can get away with this

It really doesn't have a good reputation as company to work for.

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Somethingscintilling · 10/05/2025 14:43

Well if it was me I'd definitely contact that hr man but I'd also explain to dd how unscrupulous some companies are.
And that because they have treated her so badly she shouldn't feel guilty about taking a sickie and try and find another job.

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · 10/05/2025 14:46

When I was 17, I can remember a manager making me jump through hoops to get a holiday approved and then still denied it in the end.

I left. I wasn’t going to let her win. Some people really shouldn’t be managers - they use the power to be a bully.

Coconutter24 · 10/05/2025 14:55

She has also given dd's colleague this weekend off when he never requested it and refused dd's request for this weekend off

Could she not of just asked colleague to swap weekends with her? Management don’t care who works it as long as someone does

ClockwatchingClara · 10/05/2025 15:16

Coconutter24 · 10/05/2025 14:55

She has also given dd's colleague this weekend off when he never requested it and refused dd's request for this weekend off

Could she not of just asked colleague to swap weekends with her? Management don’t care who works it as long as someone does

She didn't find this out until the other day after she'd been chatting to him online.

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Coconutter24 · 10/05/2025 16:15

ClockwatchingClara · 10/05/2025 15:16

She didn't find this out until the other day after she'd been chatting to him online.

I mean if she knew it hadn’t been approved, could she not of asked around if anyone was off and wanted to swap? Or an idea for if this happens again. If she goes to management and says I need X date off and so and so will cover for me (or swap weekends), providing they are doing the same role there’s no reason that shouldn’t be allowed

ClockwatchingClara · 10/05/2025 16:40

I suppose with her youth and lack of experience with working life it didn't cross her mind to ask such a thing but she can bear it in mind for the future (assuming she will stay put that is).

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almostbloody50 · 10/05/2025 16:41

My son has the exact same issues at Halfords he’s been working there 3 years PT now and if they ignore his requests he just phones in sick. It’s what everyone does, she’s needs to just play the system a bit more.

it’s a shocking introductory way into work HR and H&S are lacking - but it’s taught him so many lessons in life it’s worth the hassle.

PiggyPigalle · 10/05/2025 19:31

Knew it was The Range as soon as you mentioned no staff training, As a customer, it's flipping obvious.
Tills are fine, but ask floor staff about stock and they don't have a clue. Unlike say Home Bargains.

The reason retail is popular is doing certain hours, so as not to reduce UC.

In your daughter's shoes, I'd put notices in a shop or post office offering whatever she can do. Dog walking, cleaning, baby sitting, walking kids home from school and waiting with them until parents get home.

Never work minimum wage if you can be self employed.

ClockwatchingClara · 10/05/2025 19:37

almostbloody50 · 10/05/2025 16:41

My son has the exact same issues at Halfords he’s been working there 3 years PT now and if they ignore his requests he just phones in sick. It’s what everyone does, she’s needs to just play the system a bit more.

it’s a shocking introductory way into work HR and H&S are lacking - but it’s taught him so many lessons in life it’s worth the hassle.

Terrible that so many well known large businesses are treating their staff so poorly.

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ClockwatchingClara · 10/05/2025 19:39

PiggyPigalle · 10/05/2025 19:31

Knew it was The Range as soon as you mentioned no staff training, As a customer, it's flipping obvious.
Tills are fine, but ask floor staff about stock and they don't have a clue. Unlike say Home Bargains.

The reason retail is popular is doing certain hours, so as not to reduce UC.

In your daughter's shoes, I'd put notices in a shop or post office offering whatever she can do. Dog walking, cleaning, baby sitting, walking kids home from school and waiting with them until parents get home.

Never work minimum wage if you can be self employed.

I have suggested those things to her but sadly most of these require you to be about during the day when she is at college. She really needs an evening or weekend job and they are so hard to get in our area.

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Lassango · 10/05/2025 19:42

Honestly if that was my child at 17 I would not allow them to be treated like shit. I would tell them to wait until the next payday and then stop going in. At 17 they cannot have much in the way of living costs. Unless you need her to contribute towards household income.

Alternatively when she really wants a day off for an important reason to phone in sick instead.

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