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Ehc process changing !!?

45 replies

hellohellooo · 04/05/2025 13:07

Hello all
We have been to Hell and back to secure an agreement to complete an ehc assessment for d d

Some of my friends say in their area it is also very hard to get an assessment

Are they being massively scaled back?
Do Las tend to say no and then let families fight it?

It is total hell

My friend can only get a remote EP assessment after she went to tribunal
How does this even work ? 😞😞😞

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Morph22010 · 04/05/2025 21:31

StrivingForSleep · 04/05/2025 17:24

Nursery/School need three support plans and progress review.

No they don’t. This is an unlawful myth perpetuated by some LAs and some schools.

If it’s longer they need to inform you the reasons why.

If it is longer, with some very specific exceptions which don’t include it just taking longer, they are acting unlawfully whether they inform parents of the reason or not.

’support allocated by setting’

If you still have the right of appeal, you should appeal. This wording is far too vague and woolly to be enforceable.

Our la aren’t even doing ed psych assessments as part of the assessment anymore

Not seeking advice and information from an EP during the EHCNA is unlawful. Parents don’t have to accept such unlawful behaviour.

re Ed psych- I thought it was unlawful however the apparently there just needs to be some sort of ed psych input for it to be lawful, it doesn’t have to be a full Ed psych assessment carried out as part of the needs assessment. The advice for what to go in E and f is now coming from someone who is cheaper than an ed psych like specialist teaching service for example and apparently an ed psych has oversight of thst work so that meets the guidance

Morph22010 · 04/05/2025 21:33

hellohellooo · 04/05/2025 17:31

What? !!

Is this even a thing. Now?

How dangerous ?!!

Do they just add the EP views in when they can?
Madness

They get someone else to do the assessment so specialist teaching service, or nursery staff, depends on the child’s situation and who they already have involved. An ed psych appparently “oversees” but the reality is they have very little involvement

StrivingForSleep · 04/05/2025 21:36

They have to seek advice and information. That is the requirement. They can’t seek advice and information from an EP if the EP is only providing oversight.

Dizzy82 · 04/05/2025 21:45

To be honest I've found even with an EHCP it's still a daily battle to get the support needed, my son's 19 and hopefully off to uni but it hasn't been easy. 3 primary schools (1 SEN) and 3 SEN high schools. EHCPs don't carry over to Uni so now applying for Disabled Student Allowance and have to have a medical letter to say his autism is going to last longer than 6 months.... wish I was joking 😞

hellohellooo · 04/05/2025 23:01

StrivingForSleep · 04/05/2025 21:36

They have to seek advice and information. That is the requirement. They can’t seek advice and information from an EP if the EP is only providing oversight.

How bloody odd

My gosh

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hellohellooo · 04/05/2025 23:02

Dizzy82 · 04/05/2025 21:45

To be honest I've found even with an EHCP it's still a daily battle to get the support needed, my son's 19 and hopefully off to uni but it hasn't been easy. 3 primary schools (1 SEN) and 3 SEN high schools. EHCPs don't carry over to Uni so now applying for Disabled Student Allowance and have to have a medical letter to say his autism is going to last longer than 6 months.... wish I was joking 😞

Why does it have to be so hard

I wish him the very best
And hope the right support can be in place well before his transition

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Morph22010 · 04/05/2025 23:30

StrivingForSleep · 04/05/2025 21:36

They have to seek advice and information. That is the requirement. They can’t seek advice and information from an EP if the EP is only providing oversight.

D of e are supporting it and say it does meet requirement, think it’s taking place in a couple of places before potentially being rolled out nationally

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 04/05/2025 23:34

Morph22010 · 04/05/2025 17:21

Our la aren’t even doing ed psych assessments as part of the assessment anymore

Which LA is that?

hellohellooo · 04/05/2025 23:35

Shocking

Totally against code of practice??!!!

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StrivingForSleep · 05/05/2025 08:12

Just because it is supported by the DfE doesn’t mean it is actually lawful. It isn’t. Safety Valve agreements are supported by the DfE, yet some encourage unlawful behaviour…

hellohellooo · 05/05/2025 10:23

It's a mess

Specialist teachers should not be taking the role of an EP

No way

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hellohellooo · 05/05/2025 14:28

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hellohellooo · 15/05/2025 16:53

So they are proposing now only students in special schools will get an ehc ?!!!

Utter madness
Schools just can't cope currently

I hate labour so much

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Anothercoat · 15/05/2025 17:47

hellohellooo · 15/05/2025 16:53

So they are proposing now only students in special schools will get an ehc ?!!!

Utter madness
Schools just can't cope currently

I hate labour so much

Where was that? The law is the law.

hellohellooo · 15/05/2025 20:10

It was on schoolsweek earlier

It has been proposed

What
A
Pile
Of
Nonsense

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hellohellooo · 15/05/2025 23:12

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hellohellooo · 20/05/2025 12:03

I just don't know what they are going to replace them with? And when?

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Morph22010 · 21/05/2025 07:47

hellohellooo · 20/05/2025 12:03

I just don't know what they are going to replace them with? And when?

They would replace them with nothing becuase schools would be more inclusive , children would have their needs met through ordinary provision and there would be no need for an ehcp only for most complex children.

Lovely theoretical, in practise it will be an absolute disaster as you’ll just end up with more kids not having their needs met in mainstream, their needs worsening and becoming more complex and the demand for special school going up.

they need to to work on the making school more inclusive and able to meet children’s needs first and if that were the case then the applications for ehcp needs assessments would naturally fall, but obviously doing this takes a lot of money so the cutting ehcps and their associated funding is preferable in the short term.

hellohellooo · 21/05/2025 11:20

This is madness isn't it

How dare they?

Also when are they proposing this may happen?

Such idiots

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hellohellooo · 22/05/2025 09:43

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