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Do you have an allotment? What are your top tips for newbie!

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Allotmentwanker · 28/04/2025 10:18

After MANY years of being on the allotment waiting list, we’ve finally been granted a small quarter plot! I’m ridiculously excited about it, but also a bit of a novice.

I’d be grateful to get your tip tips for both being a ‘good’ allotment owner as well as any do’s and don’ts.

Things to know:
>We have access to a water supply.
>We can put a small shed/composter/water butt.
>We have a half plot neighbour that backs onto our plot, who appears to be very proud of their space and have been told they don’t like the small apple tree that overgrows into their space (which is on the corner of ours). It’s very small, so I am slightly worried they might be tricky customers to deal with!

Thanks for any guidance!😊

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JDM625 · 28/04/2025 14:33

I don't have an allotment, but bought a house with a completely overgrown, derelict garden. 20yrs of overgrowth, so I had to start from scratch.

Join gardeners corner online forum. Its free and has specific sections- allotments, ornamentals, edible growing etc. I've found it very helpful.

justkeepswimingswiming · 28/04/2025 14:35

Welcome to a whole new obsession. 😂

No tips, just enjoy plodding around and stay on top of the weeds - they are a nightmare if you miss a few weeks of weeding!

handslikecowstits · 28/04/2025 15:07

I've been a gardener and allotmenteer for years:

  • Little and often - Don't go mad and try to do lots in one go. You'll hurt yourself. Trust me.
  • Once you've told people that you've got an allotment, they might buy you some nice tools or you might fancy splashing out yourself. Do not leave them at the allotment even if you have a lockable shed, even if the other plotholders seem nice, even if there are big fences around the site. They will walk, I'm afraid. Take them with you and then bring them home again or buy cheap tools to leave there.
  • Grow what you actually like eating. It sounds obvious but so many people grow stuff that they don't like, just because it seems like a good idea.
  • The more water butts you can have the better. If we have a dry summer like 2022, everyone on your allotments will be fighting for the taps to put the hoses on. With this in mind, it might be better to try to water in the early mornings rather than in the evenings when the hoards are likely to descend.

There are lots of other things I could tell you but I could end up bamboozling you with too much info. If you want to buy a book a good one to get is Joy Larkcom - Grow your own vegetables.

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Allotmentwanker · 28/04/2025 15:25

handslikecowstits · 28/04/2025 15:07

I've been a gardener and allotmenteer for years:

  • Little and often - Don't go mad and try to do lots in one go. You'll hurt yourself. Trust me.
  • Once you've told people that you've got an allotment, they might buy you some nice tools or you might fancy splashing out yourself. Do not leave them at the allotment even if you have a lockable shed, even if the other plotholders seem nice, even if there are big fences around the site. They will walk, I'm afraid. Take them with you and then bring them home again or buy cheap tools to leave there.
  • Grow what you actually like eating. It sounds obvious but so many people grow stuff that they don't like, just because it seems like a good idea.
  • The more water butts you can have the better. If we have a dry summer like 2022, everyone on your allotments will be fighting for the taps to put the hoses on. With this in mind, it might be better to try to water in the early mornings rather than in the evenings when the hoards are likely to descend.

There are lots of other things I could tell you but I could end up bamboozling you with too much info. If you want to buy a book a good one to get is Joy Larkcom - Grow your own vegetables.

Thank you! This is exactly the advice I was after. I did wonder about leaving tools and things in the shed / on site. It’s not a city allotment, it’s on the outskirts of a small town/village in the countryside, so I was hoping we could get a locked shed and hope no one would pinch our spades and things🤔😬

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Allotmentwanker · 28/04/2025 15:27

justkeepswimingswiming · 28/04/2025 14:35

Welcome to a whole new obsession. 😂

No tips, just enjoy plodding around and stay on top of the weeds - they are a nightmare if you miss a few weeks of weeding!

We’ve just been up there for our first ‘weeding’ today! There are 6 raised beds left by previous tenant which is very lucky! Also two small ponds and a lot of detritus that they’d sort of piled up into a mound of crap🤨💩

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PauliesWalnuts · 28/04/2025 15:32

Like @handslikecowstits (great name! 😂 don’t pile in there to clear it all at once as the season will be over. Clear a bed, plant a bed, clear another bed, plant a bed.
Don’t be ashamed of using plug plants if you are tight on time, especially in the first year or so.
Get some 2nd early spuds in now if you can find any - doesn’t matter if they aren’t chitted.
My book recommend is this one - does things month by month rather than veg in alphabetical, so it’s a great one to start off with.
www.amazon.co.uk/Allotment-Month-Grow-Fruit-Vegetables/dp/0241360005/ref=asc_df_0241360005?mcid=43b842235d89373db3483798e0ad21c0&tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=696450770381&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16469954773931029749&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9208175&hvtargid=pla-635418198937&psc=1&gad_source=1

JohnofWessex · 28/04/2025 15:35

The Hessayon books are very helpful

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vegetable-Expert-books/dp/0903505207

Also his Fruit Expert one

I have no idea what condition the plot is in & how much you will manage to get done tis year as tempus is fugiting BUT thick black plastic sheet will stop the weeds in any uncultivated areas

Also LIDL are having a gardening 'event' at the moment

spiderlight · 28/04/2025 15:41

No dig!! So much easier and you'll see results really quickly. Have a look at Charles Dowden's books and website.

Get a Hori knife. They're not cheap but they are so useful. They cut through bramble roots like nothing else can, and we use ours for absolutely everything.

As mentioned upthread, theft is rife. Don't leave anything valuable in your shed 😢

Take lots of photos so you can look back and see how much you've achieved.

Most of all, enjoy! It's good for the soul, especially on summer evenings.

GoodVibesHere · 28/04/2025 15:45

We have been advised not to lock our shed because thieves always go for the locked sheds, as they assume there must be something expensive locked within. It's electric equipment they're after. It's fine to store forks, spades, trowels, bamboo canes, kneelers and so on. We leave our shed unlocked and so do most people on our site. The sheds that have been broken into are always the locked ones.

Don't worry about your neighbour if you're not breaking any rules.

Do you have grass paths? If so get yourself a cordless strimmer, because it'll grow quickly once the weather heats up. It's important to keep paths trimmed to avoid slugs spreading onto neighbours' plots.

My top tip is to cover everything you plant with decent netting, otherwise the birds will eat it all. They'll pull it out of the ground.

JohnofWessex · 28/04/2025 16:02

Keep a record book where you note what you planted, when, where and how well it did

I would suggest

Think about what you like to eat
What of those veg is the most expensive

That sort of thing so you can work out what to grow.

EG New potato's are great and expensive to buy, maincrop are cheap to buy and get blight

Oh & with a few exceptions - Kale & purple sprouting broccoli, Brassicas are very cantankerous

MarkingBad · 28/04/2025 16:14

Congratulations!

We've had two allotments over the years, our current one we've had for 5 years. To add to the others:

I agree grow what you like eating or using (cut flowers/woodies) and where possible grow the things that are expensive in the shops. For us that's mainly fruit and herbs bt we grow veg we like too.

Go up at different points in the day to begin with to see how the sun falls, whether it's colder or warmer etc. This will help you plant your crops, there are plenty of edibles that suit shade but tend to be grown in full on blazing sun for example. Go up after rain too to see if it is sitting on the soil or waterlogged in some areas, or indeed very dry.

Check your soil structure and type. Clay and loam types will be different to grow with than sandy. pH is often touted as very important but most plants are actually quite flexible on pH unless you are growing full on acid lovers like cranberries and blueberries. Allotment soil structures can be terrible and need remedial action depending on the previous tenants but as you have raised beds you have less to worry about as you can always change it.

Check for organic matter in the soil and worm activity. Our plot was very well tended or so it seemed, when I checked for organic matter I realised it hadn't had anything other than pour on fertilisers for years. Worms are a great indicator of good soils, I aim to mulch for worms are they not only compost everything they aerate the soil too which in turn allows for better water penetration.

Make sure you are appraised of the terms, for example do you have to keep it weed free, 80% cultivated etc? If you are ill or on hols for more than 5 days inform the person who manages the allotments, it can save you getting a letter to vacate when your perfectly weed free soil gets some rain and suddenly a whole load of annual seeds decide to sprout and grow like mad. This time of year two weeks can look like no one has visited for 6 months.

Make friends with the neighbours, some can be very helpful but sometimes helpfulness is not always helpful. Watch out for the guys who live up there, they will be very useful to tell you what grows well and what doesn't but they can also be a bit controlling as well.

If you practice slightly alternative method of growing like no dig, rather than smashing everything with pesticides and digging trenches for battallions on the Somme the allotment, be prepared for people to tell you why you are wrong without ever having engaged in a conversation about it. I just smile nicely and do my own thing. I'm a qualified agriculturalist and worked in agriculture and horticulture but as a woman in her 50s, I obviously don't know anything about it like the life long accountants and HGV drivers do.

Plot permenant paths so you can move easily between beds, it makes like a lot easier than having one massive bed and you can get your rotation planned and growing.

Plan your rotations at least 2-3 years in advance taking all the notes from your soil, climate, and aspect information above to grow the right plants in the right places and reducing the risk of disease.

Companion planting and catch crop sowing is great on smaller plots, it maximises the amount of plants for the space. Also plants love growing with other plants, some have longer root systems and draw up the minerals and nutrients other plants utilise. Some cover the soil with leaves to keep soil moisture locked in and available.

Sorry I only meant to write a few things but got excited there. One last thing about watering. One of the biggest mistakes I see in gardening is watering schedules or rather the lack of them. Once the plants are established they don't need huge amounts of water yet I see people watering every day, this allows for very poor growth, insipid tasting plants, and insect attacks because they love a juicy plant full of water. I water once a week and I know how many watering cans per crop per bed. That is unless it is going to be over 24C, then I pop up in the morning and give them a water but not a soaking. There are debates on morning or evening watering, as usual it's up to you how you want to do it.

Wisterical · 28/04/2025 16:33

Buy a Niwaki hori-hori. It'll cut weeding time in half and make it a pleasure.
Never leave anything in your shed you want to keep.
Be friendly to all the other plot-holders.
Start a compost heap immediately.
Grow flowers as well as veg (sweet peas are fab).
Little and often is the way to go.

JDM625 · 28/04/2025 18:09

My earlier post was very short because I had to head out.
I agree with growing things you enjoy eating or are difficult/more expensive in shops.

I consider myself a novice gardener. Think about how much time you'll have to visit the plot. Some veg require alot more maintenance that others. Pinching out and supporting growing tomatoes being 1 ongoing task. Courgettes have a habit of being a bit small, and when you look again- its suddenly a giant marrow!

Perennial crops I grow are horseradish, rhubarb, Jerusalem artichokes and cardoon. Once established, they don't need alot of maintenance and come up year after year.
Celeriac, potatoes, onions, carrots, beetroot, lettuce also don't need alot of maintenance once in. Mange tout, runner beans, french beans and broad beans will happily grow without much maintenance if their support is set up early on.

I started with just lidl seeds, then found the real seed company and others online. This week, my local B&Q have onion sets and bags of seed potatoes for half price.

CleverLemonCat · 28/04/2025 18:19

Welcome to the allotment obsessives club! Lots of advice given already but for a quick start consider using one of the raised beds for potatoes. Simply place in compost and cover with straw, about a couple of inches deep so that no sunlight can reach and turn the spuds green. No digging up, and you can just lift up the straw and pick a few. Enjoy the pottering, take it easy and keep on top of the weeds x

Allotmentwanker · 28/04/2025 18:38

So many amazing tips! Thank you all so much and feel free to share more!

Maybe we need an allotment thread 😅🌻

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Sonolanona · 28/04/2025 22:45

Enjoy yourself!
Some sites insist on a certain amount being cultivated even in the first few months, so get some seed potatoes and bung them straight in (they are definitely still available)
Then decide what you actually like eating (I grew runner beans last year... I don't even like them and still have a freezer full Grin). It's a little late to grow some stuff from seed, but cucumbers, courgettes , sweetcorn... now is the time, I'd buy tomato plants .

Sonolanona · 28/04/2025 22:51

Damn pressed too soon...
This book is AWESOME... tells you all you need to know .www.amazon.co.uk/Allotment-Month-Grow-Fruit-Vegetables/dp/0241360005/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2HTXSYSH7JT6W&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.OkS_TZ-HdFfQ8Y9ONMsSqcPIn4EJDn1eaoAUUhVK29njFMCLxYrW-H5XnCA722AsgVS9bh6beo6KQ4WOnjoRcu6VkEMposYVkIHGX1N2q3XbjnEjmhYhXqRrDdzp9aSL0SbRij_hsa1iVxhvw_MA63g6hErmkVL7hqtvRKhFPnYXwcxHkeApgqvJNzj54EV_uJLvotkvmILCj3WTxZKWfVJn0faVhQpW779cdsLeri0.47iEAcblsJmrriHqzs4AvILXsrO_4QLtXGI7jOSQV7A&dib_tag=se&keywords=allotment+month+by+month+book&qid=1745876560&sprefix=allotment+m%2Caps%2C212&sr=8-1

I'm on my second year growing and was amazed last year at how much produce I ended up with... it was also a learning curve (9 courgette plants was a big mistake... I was giving them away to strangers in the end!) and finding out what works and what doesn't is part of tħe fun!
I did spend money on compost, netting (for onions/garlic to prevent allium leaf miner, also for the cauliflowers) and on a couple of big plastic cloches which really helped, but I don't lock my basic tools away..our site is rural and we don't seem to get theft luckily.

Most of all.. enjoy it, do a bit at a time. I'm obsessed with my allotment and spend FAR too much time there but the benefits to my soul are worth it!

Kxidwn · 28/04/2025 22:58

Make it a nice place to spend time. I had a bench at my allotment and an old folding table. We'd bring picnic lunches and thermoses of tea, and in between working the plot would while the time away just enjoying being there 🙂🌿, also liked to plant flowers and herbs as well as veggies. I liked to make it pretty as well as productive. And I tried to be sensitive to wildlife, I didn't use slug pellets and had a hedgehog box behind a compost heap. I loved my allotment 💕

spiderlight · 29/04/2025 13:46

Find out whether there's a WhatsApp group or similar for the site and get yourself added to it. There will be people giving away seedlings etc. (There will also be occasional drama. Stay out of it - for the love of God, stay out of it - but it can be quite entertaining. I will never forget the Day of the Stolen Manure Delivery on our group, or the time someone picked up a free shed in bits with 'Take Me' painted on the side, brought it to the site and left it at the edge of their plot ready to assemble, with the 'Take Me' sign facing outwards, and someone else thought 'Ooh, free shed!' and took it 😂The police nearly ended up being involved in that one!)

Swirlythingy2025 · 29/04/2025 13:53

new wood if possible / or donated materials / then have a rough plan of the layout, then look at the materials and equipement needed, and progress from there, 1/2 hr acitivities at a time then section by section to build it all up.

if you can get any free materials they will help with costs

spare replacement parts for the hose pipes, if there are taps on site. due to useage the parts will wear

have water containers setup for dry weathers

Allotmentwanker · 04/05/2025 15:18

Some brilliant tips and advice here, we’re a week in and have done a lot of clearing and even joined in on a site delivery of compost! Going again tomorrow to fill the beds and plant some veg seedlings we’ve bought.

Going for strawberries (already established in pots in our garden), raspberries (again relocating from our garden as we have a LOT) in smaller beds. Have bought cane and netting to try and stop the birds chomping them all!

Veg wise we’ve got: courgettes (2 plants), tomatoes (3 plants), cabbage (1 plant), cavolo nero (1 plant), plus 1 each of peas and runners. Oh and some edible flowers - mainly as I’d like something nice to look at!

We’ve unearthed a little pond, but had to remove all the plants around it as they were self-seeding and causing loads of issues to all the enough boring plots. So I need some ideas how to ‘dress’ the pond surround now as it’s bare and looks awful. Am thinking some sort of ‘rockery’ with low level ground spreading flora of some kind or other! Tips welcome!

I will try and draw a floor plan if anyone is interested?🤔🌻🌻🌻

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UndermyShoeJoe · 04/05/2025 15:31

You’re going to want more than one pea : runner plant and one cabbage plant.

I like things that grow back as long long as you eat them, we have rainbow chard, raspberries and golden raspberries, gooseberry’s, white and red grape vines, kiwi plant, strawberries, red currents, blueberries and rhubarb. As well as a few small fruiting trees, apple, plum, cherries, figs and pears. Oh and Goja berries and asparagus.

We also grow cucumbers, chillis, peppers, pumpkins, purple sprouting broccoli, lettuce, beats, radish, spring onions, onions, garlic, peas, butternuts, kale, pak choy and toms.

With your apple tree you should just make sure it doesn’t go over onto your neighbours plot.

I agree with slow and steady no point rushing and regretting your chooses and feeling trapped by it. Make friends with other plot holders is possible they will know the most about your site and what grows best. Don’t leave anything you are not afraid to get stolen, don’t lock sheds as people will cause damage to get in.

Does your site get delivery’s on manure at all? If not maybe make friends with the local stables to collect some for free.

We like to take a little bbq with us on those nice days to make a full day of it.

GreenCandleWax · 04/05/2025 15:42

You are really lucky to have ready-made raised beds. if you clear these if needed, and dig them once, again if needed - then keep something growing in them the whole time, just topping up with compost between seedings or plantings, you can have a low-labour no-dig system which is great and very productive. in winter they can have 'green manure' crops growing on them - they put nourishment into the soil and get cut down or dug in in the spring, ready for your veg to go in.
For what to grow - any varieties you'd like to try or trial, especially unusual ones. So if you want potatoes for example go for unusual ones you can't buy. Same for carrots, beetroots etc - lots of lovely colourful types are expensive or not available in shops.
Chard is really easy and self seeds, easier than spinach. My biggest mistake was letting masses of fennel self-seed and they are difficult to pull up once they get to be big plants. I now have industrial quantities of fennel seeds to give away each year.

FrancesOakley · 04/05/2025 15:44

If you do get a shed, make it big enough to sit in, adding a cheap camping stove and kettle (mine have never been stolen in all the shed break-ins) will make it a little haven if a passing shower comes through or you're working in the winter and want a break. Look up some of the allotmenteers on YouTube and follow some whose style appeals to you, at least for the first year. As said above, little and often is the way to go.

MarkingBad · 04/05/2025 18:09

OP I hope you love courgettes! Friends and family start avoiding allotmenteers come summer for those alone. One of our neighbours had a plant that produced over 30 fruits!

Having said that I've just this afternoon sowed 20+ watermelon seeds so I'm hoping people at the site would like some of the extras

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