Trans NHS Patients can access every women-only space in London!

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I’m sharing the following gifted link … I hope it works!

Telegraph article:- Trans NHS Patients can access every women-only space in London

How long before other trusts refuse to comply with single-sex laws?

Im getting increasingly confused as to what protection single sex spaces are being afforded; what protections is there for biological women if the law is going to be so blatantly flouted by such a national institution as the NHS.

Brilliant thanks!
pop over here and we’ll sort you out 😊
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5291237-nhs-policy-audit-working-party?reply=143747122&utm_campaign=reply&utm_medium=share

Apologies @KnottyAuty I was really uncomfortable pain wise yesterday so didn’t get back on thread. I’m out for a health appointment today and will see how I am when I get back 👍. Good luck!

Hi OP I hope you feel better soon - if you get on board with the Midlands you can hopefully join in with gathering info for another article like this one supported by ordinary mumsnetters in The Telegraph:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/23/nhs-hospitals-trying-to-defy-trans-ruling/

https://archive.is/1DO8d
Very motivating to keep going!

This is daft. The NHS doesn't move that quickly. Who do you think would be making all of those decisions? It would be down to service managers, nurses, senior managers and ultimately Execs who won't have even had the papers written to sign anything off yet!!

I think the bigger question to ask right now is around the content of the revised guidance / policies / memos - and whether NHS England are doing anything at all about it, or again leaving it up to individual trusts to make it up as they go along.

I totally get where you’re coming from. Last week I was thinking we should abandon our policy audit because now there’s no need right?

But then I look at the responses to the SC Ruling… unions promising to flout the ban, politicians pretending the believed in sex all along… Maybe I’m paranoid but will the NHS pretend this never happened? Or will the just bin the policies (NHS Fife had no paperwork) and practice will continue without monitoring?

The NHS issued letters to staff - quoted in the Telegraph article that I’ve just linked to - which came through AFTER the judgement. They don’t mention women at all. It’s still all about the trans people. It’s so unbalanced.

Contrast that with Sussex University being fined £585,000 for the policies that lead to the hounding out of Kathleen Stock. Within days the policies were off the websites across the country and unis were taking legal advice.

The staff in the NHS put this stuff in place and many of them must believe it or have been indoctrinated by training programs. So unless the EHRC start handing out fines I can’t see these policies just vanishing. They’ve invested too much time, money and culture over 15 years - 3 months to change is very optimistic.

We wouldn’t trust an arsonist to put out a fire. We will need to watch the NHS Trusts like a hawk to make sure new policies with balanced rights are produced. Without press scrutiny it’s going to be difficult to do this because parliament and the BBC have been no help up to now.

“We wouldn’t trust an arsonist to put out a fire“ - exactly @KnottyAuty

You and your fellow MN are ⭐️stars⭐️.
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You are doing this and not getting paid where senior exec get paid to manage policy and hire minions who should look at changes in law.

Are the public ment to believe any trust not got a DEI department which is not staffed?

Or they were sleeping under a rock and did not know that a whole 2 sections of the EA were going to the SC on a point of law what governance / policy is in place?

Sussex University vis the VC were whining about being audited because the failed to recognise they are in a regulated industry.

And if the VC takes that ruling to court the question will be
• are the rules the rules and did SU break them
• are the rules the rules and was the audit fair

The next step in the regulation pathway is personal liability. And if Unis start going bust in a public way that is going to happen sooner rather than later.

Its not fair or right that the tax payer should fund management in the NHS who decide to create a culture where unlawfulness is encouraged. So imo all the managers who are fucking around will find out that a quick fix wont be no documentation.

And Fife will be used as a test case as they have a doctor who in interacting with all levels of "service users" and staff and supervisors who played ad hoc HR all of which (its alleged) created a clinical issue.

The public will be vested because they know that one way or the other they will end up paying for it.

This mid level @ 50- 58k plus employer role cost to break the law or be a proper minion?

And it bound by the law not guided by it.

The EDI Team is dedicated to achieving our Trust's EDI objectives by collaborating with key stakeholders. Our focus is on workforce-related EDI, recognising the importance of addressing inequalities among staff. We work closely with divisional and corporate teams to identify EDI issues and create solutions, while also aligning with the patient EDI function to reduce health disparities in our communities.
Guided by the Equality Act 2010, which protects nine characteristics from discrimination, the Team supports the organisation in fulfilling its statutory duties and improving performance against NHS standards.
The Senior EDI Advisor will report to the Head of EDI and provide expert advice and solutions to support all Directorates and Divisions. They will help embed EDI practices throughout the Trust, working with various stakeholders to foster an inclusive culture. Utilising data and insights, the postholder will contribute to EDI, People and Culture strategies, ensuring compliance with statutory and NHS obligations.

Hi, new to Mumsnet. Please can you tell me how to find this analysis or the feminism board? TIA

If you scroll up to the top of this page you’ll find a link.