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Duolingo

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NachoCheesed · 13/04/2025 15:17

Has anyone actually learned to speak a language fluently with Duolingo? Trying to learn Italian and can successfully order a coffee at the moment.

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RedToothBrush · 14/04/2025 21:00

GuppytheCat · 14/04/2025 20:03

That's very kind. Looks like mine just doesn't show that number

Only certain languages have a CEFR score.

I know Welsh and Dutch don't have it, but Italian, French and Spanish do.

My French score is currently 26. I can pick out words when people talk French at me but only the odd one. But this is an improvement on not understanding a word. I wouldn't say I could chat!

Thingsthatgo · 14/04/2025 21:02

@mumofoneAlonebutokaycan you please explain what level b2 is? I was looking into the levels because my son has been doing duolingo for a year now, but I couldn’t find what the levels meant.

MotherOfCatBoy · 14/04/2025 21:10

https://www.coe.int/en/web/common-european-framework-reference-languages/level-descriptions

CEFR is a common framework for language proficiency. The levels are A1 (beginner) A2, B1, B2, C1 and C2 (fluent). They are supported by exams which include listening, speaking, writing and reading comprehension. I have B2 in French and I believe at that level you could work in France, for example (not sure if that’s changed as I passed it before Brexit).

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mumofoneAlonebutokay · 14/04/2025 21:12

Thingsthatgo · 14/04/2025 21:02

@mumofoneAlonebutokaycan you please explain what level b2 is? I was looking into the levels because my son has been doing duolingo for a year now, but I couldn’t find what the levels meant.

Of course 🥰

So the levels apply to most western languages - French, Portuguese, Italian, Spanish, etc

A1 and A2 - basic
B1 and B2 - intermediate
C1 and C2 - fluent

I've attached a screenshot

French and Spanish aim to get you to b2 on duolingo, but I'd say that you need to be writing out the lessons, if that makes sense, so it sticks

You'd also need to supplement it - but I'm a fan of it for French and Spanish xx

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MotherOfCatBoy · 14/04/2025 21:13

I enjoy using Duolingo every day to practice but agree it’s not enough on its own… it’s a gateway, or for maintenance. I joined classes at our local University doing adult lifelong learning, and sat the exams under a teacher fanatical about grammar which was super helpful. I don’t think I’d have learned all about the subjunctive just from Duo!

(I do love Junior and Eddie though).

MotherOfCatBoy · 14/04/2025 21:14

Sorry @mumofoneAlonebutokay cross post!

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 14/04/2025 21:18

MotherOfCatBoy · 14/04/2025 21:13

I enjoy using Duolingo every day to practice but agree it’s not enough on its own… it’s a gateway, or for maintenance. I joined classes at our local University doing adult lifelong learning, and sat the exams under a teacher fanatical about grammar which was super helpful. I don’t think I’d have learned all about the subjunctive just from Duo!

(I do love Junior and Eddie though).

I love Junior and Eddie too 😄, and the girls lily and zari

Thingsthatgo · 14/04/2025 21:52

@mumofoneAlonebutokaythank you so much 🥰 that’s really helpful.

ApocalypseNowt · 14/04/2025 22:12

If anyone is ever in Russia and needs help telling people where your hedgehog is & what it's doing, I'm your girl.

SummerLightning · 14/04/2025 22:24

I'm getting towards the end of duo french (score 102) and also do a lot of other learning (online lessons, reading, audio books, videos, tv) and I'm getting good but nowhere near fluent!! According to duo I'm b2 but I think I'm more like high b1. My grammar is not fluent when I speak and I get tongue tied and forget words!

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 14/04/2025 23:05

SummerLightning · 14/04/2025 22:24

I'm getting towards the end of duo french (score 102) and also do a lot of other learning (online lessons, reading, audio books, videos, tv) and I'm getting good but nowhere near fluent!! According to duo I'm b2 but I think I'm more like high b1. My grammar is not fluent when I speak and I get tongue tied and forget words!

That's really helpful, I'm 52 on the score

Will keep going, but well done x

Beautifulweeds · 14/04/2025 23:09

I agree. It's great for many things but to truly learn a FL you need to know verb declension, adjective agreement etc. X

EBearhug · 14/04/2025 23:51

I use it for refreshing languages I already know (French and Latin from school, Spanish, German and Welsh from evening classes.) I'm currently doing Welsh evening classes, uwch2ii (around high B2, I think,) so my Welsh is quite a bit higher than Duolingo, but it is useful for learning other vocab, especially about science. I am much worse at remembering vocab compared with when I was at school.

I have also been learning Dutch from scratch, but the grammar is similar to German, as is the vocab mostly. I have bought a grammar book alongside because it's crap at teaching grammar, and I like grammar.

I did a CELTA qualification 18 months ago, and the course leader was very scathing about Duolingo, as it lacks context. I do agree - I could talk about rhinoceroses and turtles in Dutch before I could say useful things like, "my name is..." There's a reason why formal taught courses usually start with talking about your name, your family, where you live, ordering a sandwich and so on. A friend has been doing German from scratch (having done no languages since French at school,)and says not writing anything is a big drawback - though Duo has suggested writing stuff down after each lesson, to be fair.

It has its place. It's not as good as a proper course, but that won't be available to everyone in all languages.

I was told why the Welsh course is obsessed with parsnips - It's because pannas is an acronym for subjects to be wary of in language teaching -politics, and that sort of thing. I forget the details though. It's an in-joke for language teachers, apparently...

Brefugee · 15/04/2025 10:08

I have a CELTA (one of the hardest months of my life) but Duolingo wasn't around then. I stand by my belief that as an aid to get people doing a bit of daily practice, and vocabulary training it's helpful. And of course nearly zero TTT* which seems to be the CELTA goal.

I speak German at C2 level. Russian at... urgh, very low A1. Current Duolingo French is 28 (high A1) but i'm actually closer to B1 IRL.

It's just a bit of fun for me. When I hit 35 in French I'll add Russian. Can practice on my neighbour

I love how Junior speaks in French. Very cute

WoahThreeAces · 15/04/2025 10:14

I'm on day 105 of Welsh and all I can really say is that I like coffee, and Owen doesn't like leeks.
I don't feel like I've learned much at all. But I'm not really putting much effort in outside of my 5 mins of Duolingo a day 😂

GuppytheCat · 15/04/2025 10:20

Watch Pobol y Cwm (daily soap opera) with subtitles in English, Woah? I dip in at intervals and remain totally baffled.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 15/04/2025 10:36

Beautifulweeds · 14/04/2025 23:09

I agree. It's great for many things but to truly learn a FL you need to know verb declension, adjective agreement etc. X

Ahem <dons language teacher hat> - verbs have conjugations not declensions. Declensions are for nouns, pronouns and adjectives.

EBearhug · 15/04/2025 12:25

Welah is the hardest language I have ever learnt to date, and I'm glad I learned it formally, because I'd be totally thrown by mutations and the myriad ways in which bod (to be) manifests itself without the hours I've slogged through grammar exercises. Duolingo is fine for revision (and I do visit lots of museums, including branches of the amgueddfa genedlaethol,so I'mfine with that,) but I imagine trying to learn Welsh from scratch would be confusing.

RedToothBrush · 15/04/2025 20:28

Welsh Duolingo. Just been shown a real example.

"Owen made a parsnip sculpture in his studio"

Obviously this is a useful and commonly used phrase when speaking Welsh.

placemats · 15/04/2025 20:58

Totally agree with previous posters that suggest listening and watching films, and series.

Watched all of Engrenages - didn't need to check the spelling - (Spiral) and massively improved my French plus the swear words. 😁
I watch Irish language programmes on the BBC and it takes me further than the cups of coffee with duo lingo. Have an O Level in Irish and we often spoke in Irish in the house.

Bonne chance agus adh mor.

MotherOfCatBoy · 15/04/2025 21:15

I find Welsh on Duolingo totally confusing! I live in Wales, did some in school and am used to road signs and basic vocab, but when I started it on Duo, it was ok for a while (present tense, nouns etc) but then they threw in the past tense with no explanation and I got very muddled.
It really made me appreciate my French and how I had been drilled in grammar.

AnraithAgusCeapaireLeDoThoil · 15/04/2025 21:18

My username comes from my Duolingo Irish course 😆

I am very good at ordering weird combinations of food - a big apple and pizza please. A small yoghurt and a cup of tea and a glass of orange juice thank you.

My name means soup and a sandwich please (which is probably my favourite meal)

GuppytheCat · 15/04/2025 21:24

Umm...
Gwnaeth Owen cerflun pannas yn ei stwdio e?

Or something like that?

I don't know why a sculpture is a cerf-picture in Welsh (or maybe only Duo Welsh), and I keep mixing it up with cerf = stag in French and picturing something made of antlers...

SoScarletItWas · 15/04/2025 21:34

Wait til he starts flogging the pannas behind his nightclub.

Mae clwb nos Owen yn gwerthu pannas, because of course it does.

Pam mae pannas plastig yn y ffenestr? Why; why indeed…

GuppytheCat · 15/04/2025 21:43

I liked the 'Well, I went straight home from the nightclub after she threw the water over Owen', because let's face it, we'd all want to do that.