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WWYD? Stuck in the middle of family rift

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IndieRocknRoll · 10/04/2025 19:13

I’m looking for some words of wisdom and advice please as I don’t want to make the situation any worse than it already is.

My brother and I have always been close to our parents Who are now retired, early 70s, both are reasonably fit & well and active but have long term health conditions (severe asthma, heart problems etc).

My brother and I are both married with children of primary school age.
Parents have helped us out over the years by having the Dgc one day a week before they started school, pick ups from school once a week, babysitting, childcare during the hols etc.

During Covid my parents were on the clinically vulnerable list and didn’t do any childcare during the lockdowns as all of Dgc were attending nursery/school as keyworker children. This was the start of the rift. SIL told DB that my parents were unfeeling and she couldn’t understand how any grandparent could refuse to care for their grandchild. She said that it had changed the way she felt about them and after covid things were definitely cooler on her part.

My niece has asthma and suffers from constant illness and infections. She has recurring tonsillitis and during the winter is ill almost constantly, this is being investigated by paediatricians/ENT specialist.

Her constant illness has put a huge strain on my DB and SIL as they’ve had to take a lot of time off and have had various issues with school over DN’s attendance. My parents have helped out where they can but when she has had respiratory infections DM has sometimes refused to provide childcare as if she catches something, often it will result in a chest infection and her being really poorly. She has been admitted to hospital a couple of times as they can be really hard to shift, combined with her asthma. She has helped out though by having DN when she’s had tonsillitis or been suffering with her asthma.

SIL is now not speaking to my mum, saying that she should have done more to help when DN was off school ill for 2 weeks.
This has been going on since the end of last year and means we no longer have family meet-ups such as Xmas lunch or at Easter as SIL doesn’t want to be around my mum.
DM still collects DN from school etc but SIL ignores her and sits in another room.
DB has kind of shrugged it off and sees my parents with my nieces at weekends etc without SIL.

it just feels like a horrible situation and it’s making DM so sad. She’s asked me not to say anything to DB, I think she’s hoping that SIL will come round in time. I’m feeling really angry about it though and finding it increasingly hard to stay out of it!
So as not to drip feed, SIL is from another country where grandparents are expected to take on a large share of childcare and are very involved in taking care of the grandkids whilst the parents work. Families are very close knit and often live together, so I wonder if even though she’s lived here for 20+ years, there’s possibly some resentment that things are difficult.

Not sure what to do for the best? Am I just going to make it worse if I tell my brother to get a grip on the situation?

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Bluegreencat · 10/04/2025 19:22

Why do you have to do anything? It’s not really your issue to solve other than lending a sympathetic ear to DM and DB. SIL is in the wrong with her expectations but probably also very stressed. It’s your DB who is stuck and needs to communicate better (if he can) with his DM and DW.

IndieRocknRoll · 10/04/2025 19:27

@Bluegreencat yes, I know you’re right. It’s not within my power to sort it out.
i guess my issue was more, do I let on to DB that I know or pretend like nothing’s happened.

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HenDoNot · 10/04/2025 19:28

I’m guessing it’s your SIL that takes on the bulk of childcare and is therefore missing a lot of work when your niece is ill, while your DB swans off to work completely unaffected, which is why she’s annoyed and he seems unbothered.

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Eggsboxedandmelting · 10/04/2025 19:29

Imo put sil right out of your mind.. Her loss if she has no relationship with her mil. As long as db is facilitating a relationship with her dgc...

IndieRocknRoll · 10/04/2025 19:30

No, not at all. In fairness my DB definitely does his fair share, though I know it’s unusual. They both work part time.

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SirChenjins · 10/04/2025 19:36

I don’t think you can do anything really. Family relationships can be complex and the best thing is to remain neutral and friendly with all parties. Refuse to get drawn into it and tell them that you hope they can work it out, but don’t do anything more than that.

lizzyBennet08 · 10/04/2025 19:41

Honestly in a totally un Mumsnet way . No one gets to upset my mom. I’d tell my brother that it’s totally unfair of them to expect her to help and collect their kids and then ignore her. So they either get over it or find someone else .

Popfan · 10/04/2025 19:45

Your SIL sounds awful. I would find it hard not to say anything! However, as your mum is still seeing her grandchildren I think you'll probably have to stay quiet in fear of making it worse.
Your SIL is very selfish though, your poor mum.

Sassybooklover · 10/04/2025 19:45

Your SIL is being completely unreasonable and is expecting a lot from your elderly parents. Your Mum clearly suffers with her health and looking after an unwell child, makes her even more vulnerable. It's wrong of your SIL to think this is reasonable. However, it's down to your brother to talk to his wife and for them both to resolve the issue with your parents. He must be aware of his wife's attitude towards his parents?! Then he needs to tell her that she's being unreasonable. Your parents don't have to provide childcare on any level, if they don't want too! What she's used to in her own country is irrelevant, because she lives in the UK!! You can't do anything, keep out of it, and lend your Mum a sympathetic ear.

justasking111 · 10/04/2025 19:52

My husband has COPD, asthma when the grandchildren have chesty bugs they stay away. Otherwise husband ends up on antibiotics and steroids. He's really unwell.

The DILs are great about it.

My advice stay neutral.

PleaseDontFingerMyPouffe · 10/04/2025 19:54

Severe asthma is a leading cause of death in adults, your SIL in so far beyond unreasonable it's insane. I'm not surprised you're so angry!

I think you need to keep shtum as your mum had asked but that doesn't mean your feelings cannot be read on your face...

PeopleTalkingWithoutSpeaking · 10/04/2025 19:59

Ugh, how awful. My instinct would be to wade in and let the cheeky mare know that she is being ridiculous and she had better stop upsetting my mum or get to fuck... I would probably grudgingly suppress that instinct though for the sake of mum's relationship with her son and dgc.

My actual advice I think would be to stay close to your brother, and be the calm voice of reason when the need arose. Good luck op.

HelplessSoul · 10/04/2025 19:59

Your SIL is a fucking cunt.

And your mom should stop doing any childcare favours until SIL apologises for being a cunt.

Fuck SIL's culture - this is the UK. What goes here is more important than what her grandparents may have done.

ohnowwhatcanitbe · 10/04/2025 20:03

IndieRocknRoll · 10/04/2025 19:30

No, not at all. In fairness my DB definitely does his fair share, though I know it’s unusual. They both work part time.

They both work part time?

It begs the question... how come they need so much in the way of childcare then?

Vitrolinsanity · 10/04/2025 20:06

I’m with the PP. you can cross many lines with me, but take the piss out of mum’s endless hood nature and face the consequences.

You know, your DB knows and your SIL knows she’s being monstrously unreasonable.

Your options as I see them:

  1. dance around the elephant in the room
  2. tell your DB to sort his fucking elephant out
  3. do it yourself and fuck the consequences

Number 2 is the lesser of evils, but as I said, you don’t fuck with my mam.

IndieRocknRoll · 10/04/2025 20:09

@ohnowwhatcanitbeSIL only switched permanently to PT 6 months ago. She swapped between FT and PT for a couple of years before that. They now have 2 days left to cover. I guess they get less annual leave as they are PT and they use a lot of holiday to go and visit SILs home country.

The range of responses really reflects my own feelings - swinging between rage and staying well out of it for the sake of DM.

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I8toys · 10/04/2025 21:10

SIL is an entitled madam. Some people live away from their families and have to juggle children with constant illness and full time work. I know from experience - its hard work. And they only work part time? So why do they need so much help?

If I knew it would make my parent ill I would not even think to ask. I'm on your mum and dad's side. SIL is a selfish mare.

TonTonMacoute · 10/04/2025 22:55

Least said soonest mended, OP.

I might say something if DB asked you directly but I really think you need to stay neutral. SIL is behaving appallingly, no wonder your DM is upset.

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