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Feeling left out in social situations

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OlivetheOtter · 31/03/2025 21:53

My whole life I have found that in many social situations, I have felt like I don't fit in and I know some of the time it is my own feelings of awkwardness and self-consciousness making me overthink it. But I came away from an informal work meeting feeling really down today because I really just felt like a lesser member of the group. There were four of us, all women, and we all work remotely and don't meet up in person much.

One of the other women I feel closest to in the group and I have often sought out her support and friendship through the course of work and we felt reasonably close. She also contacts me but probably asks for help less as she is more confident in herself. I noticed that, in the group of four, she was not seeking eye contact with me at all and addressing everything to the other two people there. When I first arrived it was just her and another colleague and I felt they were so much more interested in hearing what the other one had to say and they would make the briefest eye contact with me out of politeness and then go back to talking mainly to each other.

Then the fourth colleague came and she was the only one who was really including me. I know I wasn't just being hyper-sensitive, I was being objective because I was aware that one person was making eye contact and really interested in what I thought about what she was saying and hearing my response. I think I felt most hurt by the one who I considered my "friend" at work, but as soon as other people were there, she just excluded me. Guess I was wondering if she looks down on me because I lack confidence in myself sometimes and I am open about it and maybe I shouldn't be.

And this type of scenario is a pattern tbh in my life, often feeling like I may as well not be there.

It's exhausting and makes me sad, wondering whether anyone has any similar experiences or insights? Thanks!

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TheCalmCat · 31/03/2025 22:48

OlivetheOtter · 31/03/2025 21:53

My whole life I have found that in many social situations, I have felt like I don't fit in and I know some of the time it is my own feelings of awkwardness and self-consciousness making me overthink it. But I came away from an informal work meeting feeling really down today because I really just felt like a lesser member of the group. There were four of us, all women, and we all work remotely and don't meet up in person much.

One of the other women I feel closest to in the group and I have often sought out her support and friendship through the course of work and we felt reasonably close. She also contacts me but probably asks for help less as she is more confident in herself. I noticed that, in the group of four, she was not seeking eye contact with me at all and addressing everything to the other two people there. When I first arrived it was just her and another colleague and I felt they were so much more interested in hearing what the other one had to say and they would make the briefest eye contact with me out of politeness and then go back to talking mainly to each other.

Then the fourth colleague came and she was the only one who was really including me. I know I wasn't just being hyper-sensitive, I was being objective because I was aware that one person was making eye contact and really interested in what I thought about what she was saying and hearing my response. I think I felt most hurt by the one who I considered my "friend" at work, but as soon as other people were there, she just excluded me. Guess I was wondering if she looks down on me because I lack confidence in myself sometimes and I am open about it and maybe I shouldn't be.

And this type of scenario is a pattern tbh in my life, often feeling like I may as well not be there.

It's exhausting and makes me sad, wondering whether anyone has any similar experiences or insights? Thanks!

Hi @OlivetheOtter that must feel really difficult. I’d really recommend listening to Mel Robbins podcasts and her book ‘the let them’ theory. It will help with the above and is all about you feeling in control.

OlivetheOtter · 31/03/2025 23:40

TheCalmCat · 31/03/2025 22:48

Hi @OlivetheOtter that must feel really difficult. I’d really recommend listening to Mel Robbins podcasts and her book ‘the let them’ theory. It will help with the above and is all about you feeling in control.

Thansk so much Calm Cat, I will definitely try that 😊

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lottiegarbanzo · 02/04/2025 21:32

Well, if you are open about lacking confidence you are effectively giving people permission to take you at your own (low) estimation.

Might be better to treat colleagues as ‘customers’ and keep personal confidences for your friends and, to an extent, your manager.

Greenblossom · 02/04/2025 21:43

I wouldn’t admit to lacking self-confidence at work. Or expecting anyone to be anything other than a work colleague. Maybe focus on your life out of work instead? As someone who has been frequently awkward and often completely invisible at work throughout my working life, I focused on building a solid little group of friends outside of work. They are the ones who I can ask for support in wobbly times. Work people just don’t ‘get’ me, but that’s fine. They don’t need to.

OlivetheOtter · 06/04/2025 10:19

lottiegarbanzo · 02/04/2025 21:32

Well, if you are open about lacking confidence you are effectively giving people permission to take you at your own (low) estimation.

Might be better to treat colleagues as ‘customers’ and keep personal confidences for your friends and, to an extent, your manager.

Hi Lottie,

Thanks - yes that is true - I thought I could trust this person but I made a mistake. I will be more guarded at work in future I think and distance myself a bit more.

Thanks!

Olive

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OlivetheOtter · 06/04/2025 10:22

Greenblossom · 02/04/2025 21:43

I wouldn’t admit to lacking self-confidence at work. Or expecting anyone to be anything other than a work colleague. Maybe focus on your life out of work instead? As someone who has been frequently awkward and often completely invisible at work throughout my working life, I focused on building a solid little group of friends outside of work. They are the ones who I can ask for support in wobbly times. Work people just don’t ‘get’ me, but that’s fine. They don’t need to.

Hi Greenblossom,

Yes I think you are right - I have learned the hard way!

Thanks so much for your response,

Olive

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SedumRoof · 06/04/2025 10:33

lottiegarbanzo · 02/04/2025 21:32

Well, if you are open about lacking confidence you are effectively giving people permission to take you at your own (low) estimation.

Might be better to treat colleagues as ‘customers’ and keep personal confidences for your friends and, to an extent, your manager.

This. Plus, OP, your post suggests you see friendship and ‘seeking support’ as one and the same thing. Bluntly, your colleague is not your therapist. If, as you suggest, your lack of confidence frequently manifests itself at work, and your relationship consists of you ‘seeking support’ from her, it’s likely to be somewhat draining for her. Your awkwardness, lack of confidence etc is your issue to sort out, not hers to baby you about at work gatherings. Find a therapist, figure out the core beliefs and scripts that are holding you back, and work on building work relationships that don’t centre you seeking support for your lack of confidence.

ThisIsMyYearToFindMyself · 06/04/2025 11:13

TheCalmCat · 31/03/2025 22:48

Hi @OlivetheOtter that must feel really difficult. I’d really recommend listening to Mel Robbins podcasts and her book ‘the let them’ theory. It will help with the above and is all about you feeling in control.

Is there any specific episode of the podcast? There seem to be dozens on Spotify.

TheCalmCat · 07/04/2025 20:24

ThisIsMyYearToFindMyself · 06/04/2025 11:13

Is there any specific episode of the podcast? There seem to be dozens on Spotify.

Hi lovely @ThisIsMyYearToFindMyself you can listen to her book ‘the let them theory’ on audible, or on Spotify she has her podcasts - there is a summary of the book somewhere on there but lots of her episodes of her podcast are great - they say in the title what they are about so have a look and see if there are any that feel relevant to you x

OlivetheOtter · 07/04/2025 23:58

SedumRoof · 06/04/2025 10:33

This. Plus, OP, your post suggests you see friendship and ‘seeking support’ as one and the same thing. Bluntly, your colleague is not your therapist. If, as you suggest, your lack of confidence frequently manifests itself at work, and your relationship consists of you ‘seeking support’ from her, it’s likely to be somewhat draining for her. Your awkwardness, lack of confidence etc is your issue to sort out, not hers to baby you about at work gatherings. Find a therapist, figure out the core beliefs and scripts that are holding you back, and work on building work relationships that don’t centre you seeking support for your lack of confidence.

It doesn't really. A lot of the time we just have a laugh - I am quite a cheery person at work. There have been times I have confided in her. But I agree, it may be draining as that is her other job (a counsellor). But I am not constantly "seeking support" so if I gave that impression that was wrong. Just a tiny one-dimensional snapshot of a small moment in my life - as everyone will know, people and situations are infinitely complex and cannot be solved by strangers on the internet! So your advice to find a therapist is sound. And stop posting on Mumsnet! :D

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