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Police arrest parents who slate school on class WhatsApp

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noblegiraffe · 29/03/2025 09:29

A primary school sought advice from the police after '“a high volume of direct correspondence and public social media posts” that had become upsetting for staff, parents and governors.' and the police response was to send 6 officers to their house to arrest the couple making the posts and put them in a cell all day.

Although the couple sound like an absolute pain in the arse who should pack it in, 6 police officers seems like a teensy bit of overkill, particularly with the amount of crime currently going uninvestigated. But with schools faced with spiralling numbers of vexatious parental complaints, something needs to happen. I think some unions are starting to offer legal advice and template solicitor letters for this situation.

https://www.thetimes.com/article/d8c8566b-99b1-45c6-814b-008042d74a3a?shareToken=6deab807d148cf7695ed4d9d3664c51e

Police arrest parents who complained in school WhatsApp group

The couple were detained in front of their daughter and kept in a cell for eight hours over their messages on the app as well as emails sent to the school

https://www.thetimes.com/article/d8c8566b-99b1-45c6-814b-008042d74a3a?shareToken=6deab807d148cf7695ed4d9d3664c51e

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ThisUniqueDreamer · 29/03/2025 13:03

They won't do that again will they. Perhaps the parents should stop acting like children.

RedRoss86 · 29/03/2025 13:04

noblegiraffe · 29/03/2025 12:52

I noticed that 😄

As opposed to, for example, being busy calling the headteacher a control freak on WhatsApp.

Doesn't have the same ring to it 🤣🤣

FrippEnos · 29/03/2025 13:05

User46576 · 29/03/2025 13:00

What now? You think parents should be arrested because they criticize the school? Why should schools be beyond criticism?

When it goes beyond criticism and becomes bullying and harassment then yes, those doing so should be held accountable and if required arrested.

User46576 · 29/03/2025 13:05

FrippEnos · 29/03/2025 13:01

Every worker has the fundamental right to a safe and healthy workplace.

Many schools seem to forget this in favour of parents and pupils.

Dealing with complaints is part of the job in many workplaces, both private and public sector, including schools. There’s no right not to be criticized.

Rivertrudge · 29/03/2025 13:05

sidebirds · 29/03/2025 12:51

well said. the parents were moderate in their behaviour and - despite the heavy-handed deployment of the police to their home, and the incarceration - there was no case to answer.

x.com/timesradio/status/1905693691416883419?s=46

You think 45 email threads, some containing multiple emails, in six months, is "moderate behaviour"? How could a primary school function if every parent behaved like that? Or, if they hadn’t been banned from direct meetings with teachers, presumably because of their immoderate (probably aggressive or bullying) behaviour, wanted a conversation with their child's teacher face to face that often?

noblegiraffe · 29/03/2025 13:05

blackbird77 · 29/03/2025 13:01

Exactly. Schools need to stop trying to be so passive about defending themselves.

For example, parent complains to the Daily Mail about how it’s sooooo unfair that their child is banned from the school prom and that the school is picking on them (along with sad face photos). Schools should firmly make a statement in defence outlining why student was banned and explicitly list all the behavioural events that said student was involved in. Schools need to state what the specific behaviours were, how much the learning and happiness of other children were compromised over the years, outline how the child’s said behaviour was a detriment to the school and the community, how much learning was lost for the other students, how much teacher time was taken away from rigorous academics to deal with student behaviour, how much safer the students will be with said student not around and how much taxpayer money has been spent by the school on the fallout of child’s behaviour.

The general public needs to know the reality of how students are behaving in school. The impacts should be tangible and quantifiable. Because schools are so vague about it to preserve the dignity of the child and parent involved, it means the public only get one side of the story.

But schools legally aren't allowed to publish details of a named child's behaviour. (And rightly so!)

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TENSsion · 29/03/2025 13:05

dapsnotplimsolls · 29/03/2025 13:03

I'll expect the rozzers at the door if I call them numpties 45 times.

Seriously? Is this how you want to live? You truly don’t see the implications of this long term?

FrippEnos · 29/03/2025 13:06

User46576 · 29/03/2025 13:03

On what basis do you claim that the school is “legally unable” to put forward their side?

GDPR and safeguarding.

User46576 · 29/03/2025 13:06

ThisUniqueDreamer · 29/03/2025 13:03

They won't do that again will they. Perhaps the parents should stop acting like children.

What a chilling thing to say. The parents we’re lawfully raising issues about the education of their disabled child on social media. They should be free to do so.

FrippEnos · 29/03/2025 13:06

User46576 · 29/03/2025 13:05

Dealing with complaints is part of the job in many workplaces, both private and public sector, including schools. There’s no right not to be criticized.

When it goes beyond criticism and becomes bullying and harassment then yes, those doing so should be held accountable and if required arrested.

CaramelVanilla · 29/03/2025 13:07

noblegiraffe · 29/03/2025 09:43

The bloke looks to be the local Lib Dem councillor. I'm not sure Lib Dems are generally violent and aggressive towards the police.

Shockingly politicians are not always the best of the population....

SuperTrooper14 · 29/03/2025 13:08

Friendlyjellyfish · 29/03/2025 12:25

I left a negative review on School Parrot years ago. Is that ok? The school has since improved loads but I can’t delete my original review.

I haven’t ever complained via email. Only face to face. I also don’t use WhatsApp or FB to complain to other parents.

Just feeling a bit worried now

(I do have anxiety and yes it’s quite bad today!) 💐

Did you disparage any staff member by name? If it was just a general moan, then it's fine. It's when parents go after individuals that you can be accused of defamation. Plus it was a one-off review, not a string of slagging off comments.

TENSsion · 29/03/2025 13:08

FrippEnos · 29/03/2025 13:06

When it goes beyond criticism and becomes bullying and harassment then yes, those doing so should be held accountable and if required arrested.

Could you cite specific examples of bullying and intimidation please?

MarzipanAndFrenchFancies · 29/03/2025 13:09

User46576 · 29/03/2025 13:05

Dealing with complaints is part of the job in many workplaces, both private and public sector, including schools. There’s no right not to be criticized.

No but if head teachers and teachers spend a proportion of their working day responding to 'critical emails' or parent complaints, the end result is they are not running the school or teaching the children.

TENSsion · 29/03/2025 13:09

TENSsion · 29/03/2025 13:08

Could you cite specific examples of bullying and intimidation please?

Also, bullying isn’t a police matter

dapsnotplimsolls · 29/03/2025 13:09

TENSsion · 29/03/2025 13:05

Seriously? Is this how you want to live? You truly don’t see the implications of this long term?

I was being sarcastic.

TENSsion · 29/03/2025 13:09

MarzipanAndFrenchFancies · 29/03/2025 13:09

No but if head teachers and teachers spend a proportion of their working day responding to 'critical emails' or parent complaints, the end result is they are not running the school or teaching the children.

But police do have time to sort it out on their behalf?

TheWombatleague · 29/03/2025 13:09

TheWombatleague · 29/03/2025 10:59

We don't have a right to free speech in the UK, we have a right to freedom of expression under the human rights act (something the previous government & reform want us to abandon btw) and "may be subject to formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society."

These may be “in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary.”

I'm not saying it's not problematic, but compared to the assault on dissenting voices in the US across all media, universities, schools, institutions & in public there's no real comparison.

Having said that. There having been plenty of examples, under both the previous government and this one, of seriously worrying abuses of the powers enacted by the last government.

https://www.thecanary.co/uk/news/2025/03/28/youth-demand-raids/

Youth Demand supporters RAIDED by cops across UK as outrageous clampdown begins

Youth Demand supporters RAIDED by cops across UK as outrageous clampdown begins from Canary on 28 March 2025

https://www.thecanary.co/uk/news/2025/03/28/youth-demand-raids/

User46576 · 29/03/2025 13:10

FrippEnos · 29/03/2025 13:06

GDPR and safeguarding.

I doubt either would preclude the school putting forward their side considering the allegations the police were investigating.

User46576 · 29/03/2025 13:12

TENSsion · 29/03/2025 13:09

But police do have time to sort it out on their behalf?

Surely arresting people for making lawful complaints isn’t “sorting them out” anyway! Police rarely turn up to robberies and burglaries now. How have they time for this?

CalleOcho · 29/03/2025 13:13

noblegiraffe · 29/03/2025 09:43

The bloke looks to be the local Lib Dem councillor. I'm not sure Lib Dems are generally violent and aggressive towards the police.

You can’t judge someone’s temperament based on which political party they’re a member of.

Violent and aggressive people come from all walks of life, classes, races and religions.

There were 6 officers there for a reason.

TENSsion · 29/03/2025 13:13

User46576 · 29/03/2025 13:12

Surely arresting people for making lawful complaints isn’t “sorting them out” anyway! Police rarely turn up to robberies and burglaries now. How have they time for this?

Quite.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 29/03/2025 13:13

dapsnotplimsolls · 29/03/2025 12:58

I'm not sure which is worse - that poor child being home-educated by these numpties or another school having to deal with them. If she's now at another school, I bet he's trying to become a governor ...

And will move on to the secondary school once that comes around. Means that there are kids who never have a space away from a parent's control and influence because Mum/Dad knows the teachers and the head and can suggest that they will know everything you say in school. That's not to say that Parent Governors shouldn't be a thing, and a parent who is a Governor but not a Parent Governor can definitely bring a load of skills and experience to a BOG where they might not be interested were it not for their child attending (inconvenient when they stop turning up from the September after the kids leave, though) but their position of power does need to be carefully balanced.

Slightly baffled as to why they need to see a teacher in person to tell them how to deal with medication or a seizure - not only is giving medication and looking after the kids if they do have a seizure the remit of people who have been trained to do it and are part of the Support Staff (the teacher would have to deal with the rest of the class, after all) as part of the Supporting Children with Medical Conditions policy, the free specialist nurse training is far superior and will include specific points at which an ambulance should be called. Well, that and it's not exactly difficult to do in the first place.

It's almost as though this insistence upon coming into the school to be in a room alone with the teacher to unnecessarily discuss this in person is merely a pretext for gaining entry into the school...

noblegiraffe · 29/03/2025 13:13

User46576 · 29/03/2025 13:10

I doubt either would preclude the school putting forward their side considering the allegations the police were investigating.

To the police, yes. To a journalist, no.

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latetothefisting · 29/03/2025 13:13

noblegiraffe · 29/03/2025 10:20

"They were questioned on suspicion of harassment, malicious communications and causing a nuisance on school property"

Which suggests they were also rocking up to the school and harassing staff in person.

yes but the case was NFA'd - e.g. they didn't even get a warning. So no evidence was found to support any of those complaints.

I'm in the minority - yes they sound annoying but the police are for crimes - not hurt feelings.

The article said they asked the police and school for exactly what was so offensive it warranted investigation and they refused to give examples. That's a decision they are entitled to make, but without that, and the fact that after a 5 week investigation they found nothing, all we have to go on is the biased article, which shows them moaning about teachers in a private group. If that, and frequently emailing the school is all they've done then being arrested is a complete waste of public money, and, honestly, quite scary that people think that is appropriate.

I'm honestly shocked that so many people on here would apparently be happy to be ARRESTED in front of their kids for, essentially, complaining about someone. Can't you see the irony (particularly those insulting the couple!). If moaning about someone is illegal then nearly every thread on here could be cause for arrest.

Unless any of the communications were actively threatening the school or staff, (and there is no evidence to support this) then just being unpleasant is not a police matter!

Every single job I've worked at has had people who get fixated (or have MH issues) and send multiple emails or phone calls to the point it takes up staff resources - we manage these in various ways, none of which involve calling the police!

I am absolutely not saying they should 'get away' with complaining about the school but the other restrictions put in place were appropriate for a non-criminal matter - restricting how often they could contact the school, even banning them from the premises.

Six officers attending, several hours each in custody (with all the staff and resources that entails), plus seizure of their electronics and specialist analysis = a cost (to the public purse) of tens of thousands of pounds. All for nothing at all to be found - not even sufficient evidence to justify a warning.

No, I don't think, from either a tax payer, legal or moral (in terms of free speech) that is a proportionate use of state resources.

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