Women and music

[Smokeyblueblack]

Well I've posted on threads before because I feel really quite angry about women as they present themselves: in the music industry, in the media, in social media, in fashion, in real life etc etc. That that they conform to the traditional, male orientated view that women's primary function is to conform to the view that their value to society is primarily aesthetic and providing sex for men.

So having spent the past few hours watching women who historically presented a strong and informed aspect of feminism: Nina simone,JudyCollins, Buffy St Marie, in particular today, isn't it sad that modern day female acts go down the route, for whatever reason , of displaying their bodies and explicit sexyuality rather than their strength and personality and political views?
What happened to women performers having political view points rather than just presenting themselves as sex objects ?

Yes, many do present in a sexualised way, but many don't, maybe you don't notice them when you see them?

The bestselling artist of current time, Taylor Swift has a lots of political views. Yes, some of her costumes are similar to swimming one-piece, but she always looks decent. And she is producing her own show and have largely female audience, so she isn't doing it to capture make gaze.

The previous tennis world number one who reigned for just over two years, Iga Swiatek, never posed for the sex object photos. And she was around 22 at that time, so in the physical prime.

JKR is a strong woman with political views and not a sex object.

Adele

There are extremely successful female artists ranging from Billie Eilish to Little Simz who don’t have a sexualised image at all.

How women choose to present themselves is entirely their business, but I think it’s interesting that this sort of narrative always focuses on the women who are overtly sexual and completely ignores the ones who aren’t. Shows who grabs your attention, eh? Which, I suppose, is rather the point.

ETA: Buffy St Marie has been stripped of most of her accolades for spending decades pretending to be indigenous. If it’s a choice between a race impersonator and a woman who chooses to wear thong, give me Cardi B, any day.

I didnt know that about Buffy St Marie actually. I'll need to investigate
I was motivated to start this thread mainly by listening to my icon, Nina Simone, singing Ain't got no I got life. Singing about being a whole person and being unapologetic about bring a whole person.
I feel so.angry that modern day women singers feel the need, or are coerced, into singing barely decently clothed and as far as I'm aware don't sing about political issues.
Perhaps someone could point me towards women who sing about political issues these days.

Perhaps someone could point me towards women who sing about political issues these days.

I just gave you two.

Also, you appear to be conflating what women choose to wear with their willingness to engage with political issues. That’s rather problematic. It’s also misguided. Taylor Swift, mentioned by another poster, has been outspoken about her views. Megan Thee Stallion, who often wears very little, was an ardent Kamala supporter and campaigner, and her clothing choices had nothing to do with anything.

Quite a lot of female hip hop artists (who you wouldn’t consider ‘decently dressed’) are EXTREMELY political. Often on the very same subjects Nina Simone sang about.

There's a need to be very sexual and anodyne at the same time. This gets you the big bucks.

You can be quickly cancelled for your political views but no one seems to mind if you emulate a spit roast on stage.