If you live near a pub, should you expect noise at closing? Or expect the punters to be respectful of local residents?

[JohnKettleyIsAWeathermanAndSoIsMichaelFish]

There's a bun fight going on in my local FB group. A family have recently moved near to a pub and are complaining about the noise when people leave. It's a well loved locals pub, in a semi-residential area but on a busyish road with food outlets and a garage. Mum is unhappy that her children are being disturbed at night when people leave. Locals are asking what she expects living close to a pub. She expects them to be respectful of people living close by. It's too early in the year for this argument but it does have a large garden which will become noisy during the daytime soon.
I'm just wondering what others think? Is she wrong or does she have a point?

The pub was there first. If it was a recent development, it would be different.

I remember that song by the way! 😂

So she expects people to whisper in the pub garden and tip toe home?

If the pub was there when she moved in she should have anticipated noise . Most pubs have signs asking customers to leave quietly. It’s just like people who buy houses near schools and don’t like the noise of children playing !

She's on a hiding to nothing, people should be respectful as in not fighting, vomiting in her garden or screaming, but normal pub noise is to be expected.

I've lived next to pubs (adjoining gardens) and you get used to it.

Or you move.

The pub has been there for centuries. She thinks people should leave quietly and be respectful. She's been posting every few days for a couple of weeks - she's not going down without a fight!

A happy medium - some noise ok but not loud noise after midnight

Jesus. She's completely unreasonable and I hope that she's being told so in the local group. Don't live near a pub if you don't want normal pub noise (assuming that's what it is and there's not fights outside every night or something?).

I would hope for respectful but fully expect noisy.

Both. Would be nice if people were nice. I'd expect noise.

Surely anyone with an ounce of sense knows not to live next to a pub if you don't like noise (and the odd pint glass on your front garden - yes we lived opposite a pub).

She reminds me of some people who moved into the village where I grew up, buying an house opposite the 17th century church and then complaining about the church bells disturbing them on Sundays!!

We chose a house directly across the road from a pub on a mainly residential narrow street, small family friendly garden at the rear, and lived there happily for many years (we actually decided to put it an offer after a pint in the pub). Of course there was some noise at kick out time but the landlord would come out and encourage people to move on if they were too noisy and they were actually great neighbours. Hopefully other people will tell the new arrival how ridiculous she is being and she will eventually give up. It’s a bit like people moving near to a church and complaining about the bells on Sunday!

would be nice if people can leave the pub and be on their way (ie, don't stand outside for ages having a loud conversation) but it's a pub, and she moved close to it, so it's hard to have too much sympathy!

I lived two doors down from a pub for a year or so. Never noticed people leaving but the live music was a bit of a pain sometimes, never went on too late though.

People who move and then complain about something there are the most tedious ever

The people who bought our old house are constantly complaining about the noise from the school - that'll be the school that's basically at the bottom of the garden. The one that's so close I could literally watch my children coming out of their classroom doors from our garden gate. I mean it's a newish school building, but it's on the site of where the school has stood for over 100 years!

You'd expect noise at closing time of a pub. And likely early on some days for deliveries as well.

I think there is a Goldilocks Zone

Hell, I’m two streets away and from inside my house I can hear the pub roar if England score. Living next door at chucking out time? She’s absolutely mad.

There is a reason why houses next to/near pubs have a lower value than others in the same village/town.

It would be lovely if everyone was quiet and respectful but that’s not realistic and it also depends on how people define those terms and at what times.

In my village we have a new resident trying to stop the “noisy” church bells that have been ringing for the last 300 years 😂.

Hahahahaaa. I grew up down the road from the Pub and bo ine ever complainer. Even when drunks ended up in ours and neighbours gardens drunk or fighting.
If people.take issue withbit then move.

The pubs were there first and she should have predicted this. However it can be one a serious issue when fairly affluent people buy a new builds next door to an existing pub. There’s been two major issues near us in the last few years. One pub closed down after a nightmare neighbour started a campaign and another had to close their lovely kids play area which backed onto a guys garden who didn’t like the sounds of kids playing. Both got Cllrs, MP’s, licensing, and Police involved and the poor landlords did everything they could. Neither had serious ASB issues, they were just good local pubs where families went.

We live next door to a secondary school. We had the common sense to scout out the area before we bought our house to see what it was like at 8.30am and 3.30pm. In fact knowing when it will be noisy and busy is far better than inconsiderate neighbours revving cars and doing DIY projects at all hours.

Even people who are trying to be quiet and respectful don't realise how loud they are in a group after a couple of drinks.

Presumably she wants everyone to leave one by one, gagged - because that is the only way you will get people who are out socialising to leave quietly enough that neighbours won't hear anything at night.