Jaw botox

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Has anyone done this to help stop clenching ?. Any good or bad points then please let me know. Anyone use it regularly?.
I've tried 3 different biteguards made by a dentist and been seen at the dental hospital and need to try something

Me I've tried it as I'm bad at grinding my teeth badly at night, tried a guard but couldn't wear it comfortably, so I tried that and it works but it's expensive as your muscles are so strong and you need quite a bit so can become costly.

Yes it’s great.

my dentist is amazing… I did it every 3m for year one then moved to 6m maintainance.
It’s like night and day

i have no regrets and would “give up” other treats to continue funding it

It can be very effective, but done wrongly can cause problems. Make sure you see dentist or doctor to do this who has experience in Botox for grinding/clenching , not a nurse and especially not a random beautician/aesthetician/cosmetologist.

It didn’t work for me.

Thanks for all the replies. It's great it's helped some people. Sadly there are no dentists near me who offer it so my only option is a nurse. I'm stuck on knowing if this is the right thing to do.
It's so hard as I've tried all the biteguards and they all make things worse x

It’s very effective and even life changing I would say.
A nurse or other medical professional would be a suitable alternative to a dentist.

I had it done at the hospital twice but it made no difference to me.

my dentist now offers it and says they give a larger dose so I might have a go with her.

Would be interested to know how much people have so it makes a difference.

What is the average amount that is injected?

Not a nurse . It needs someone who really knows facial anatomy and is experienced in jaw clenching/grinding.

Agree it needs a dentist so you may have to go further afield. It's really specialised work.

I had it done twice, first time didn't make much of a difference but second time did. I don't know f that was because she used more, or because having already had it once the jaw muscle was already more relaxed.

Have a new nightguard now and that is working better than previous ones so haven't had any more pain and so no need to repeat the Botox.

My dentist has reccomended this. Im considering it

It didn't work for me, she redid it 2 weeks later and used a lot. She was an ICU consultant s well qualified. I haven't done this yet, but here's another option that has good reviews www.leeds.ac.uk/research-32/news/article/5652/a-self-help-guide-for-chronic-orofacial-pain-including-tmd

I’m interested in this too. I’m sat here with a another headache caused by TMJ disorder. My teeth are even starting to get loose and I’m convinced it’s because of the clenching and pressure from that because the dentist said my hygiene is spot on. Even with a mouthguard.

I’m also convinced mine was caused by me taking Citalopram. It only started when I started taking that. And now it’s unlikely I’ll ever be able to do without it so I think I’m stuck.

I have had this twice. Both times by a hospital dental surgeon and it has helped enormously. The first time was while I was unconscious having a bilateral TMJ arthroscopy because I have ground my teeth so much (despite guards etc) that I have shredded the joints. The 2nd was 4 months later. The grinding is so much better and I no longer look like a hamster with a swollen face etc. They were adamant however that 3 will be enough as 3 will kill the muscle sufficiently for ever. They took a very dim view of people having it done every 3 months for ever as it just means that it is not being done properly. You need a referral to a dental hospital.

Citalopram and many antidepressants do cause grinding. Speak to your gp as a change in meds might help.

I went to an oesteopath and found that so helpful. I would have done the Botox if that hadn’t worked. Mine had become so bad it had locked for about a year and I was struggling to eat. It was amazing.

Thank you. I’ve tried reducing the dose before - not specifically with a view to changing type - but then peri kicked in and my anxiety and OCD were through the roof so I had to increase it again. I believe if I was to ever change I’d have to reduce this completely before swapping to something else and that puts the fear into me!

I’ve been having it at the hospital for the last year, I’ve ground my teeth so much for the last 40+ years that my face was literally square and I hated it, not to mention the constant head pain, tooth breakage, neck pain.

I got a referral to the hospital (Wales) by detailing all this and they’ve been giving me injections every 3 months. I still wear a soft gum shield on the bottom but the difference is incredible. I wish I’d had it years ago.

Try listing all the issues it’s giving you and going to the GP for a referral to Maxillo Facial. If not, paying privately is probably cheaper in the long run than tooth damage, facing implants etc (which I’m still facing as I was too late starting it)

Not gp referral, dentist referral because they will have wanted you to try a bite guard first and probably several types.

It is not available in many/most areas ,including mine, on the NHS.

Implants are not suitable for heavy grinders as there is no “feel” to implants they end up breaking.

I went to the dentist many times first. They were in England and were the ones who told me I needed a hospital referral via the GP. The GP referred me, and I had an appointment a few months later where I had an scan of the area and when they didn’t find anything untoward they went ahead with Botox.