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Am I calculating this correctly (working hours)

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Dinoswearunderpants · 28/02/2025 16:57

Hi all

I'm debating whether to ask to work term time from January 2026 (I know ages away) but I'm trying to work out if financially it'll be any different.

I currently work 4 days a week. I get 5 weeks annual leave. I'm roughly working it out that I would be taking an extra 8 weeks annual leave (40 working days).

If I go back to working 5 days a week but taking 13 weeks annual leave, I'm working it out my money will be roughly the same. Am I calculating this correctly?

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ThreeMagicNumber · 28/02/2025 17:01

So you actually get paid for 208 days now including annual leave vs 195 for if you change it, annually.

Dinoswearunderpants · 28/02/2025 17:03

ThreeMagicNumber · 28/02/2025 17:01

So you actually get paid for 208 days now including annual leave vs 195 for if you change it, annually.

Edited

Ok thank you. I wonder if bank holidays might affect things as currently as I take a Monday off, I am entitled to extra annual leave as some bank holidays fall on my non working day.

I should just contact HR but I don't want to rock the boat too early in case they won't go for it.

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Cyclingmummy1 · 28/02/2025 17:18

47 weeks @ 4 days a week = 188 days in work

39 weeks @ 4 days a week = 156

39 weeks @ 5 days a week = 195

At the moment do you take 4 days for a 'week''s holiday? I expect you'd get 80% ish of the full holiday entitlement so 4 weeks paid and 9 weeks unpaid, with your salary spread over 12 months.

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Dinoswearunderpants · 04/03/2025 10:36

Cyclingmummy1 · 28/02/2025 17:18

47 weeks @ 4 days a week = 188 days in work

39 weeks @ 4 days a week = 156

39 weeks @ 5 days a week = 195

At the moment do you take 4 days for a 'week''s holiday? I expect you'd get 80% ish of the full holiday entitlement so 4 weeks paid and 9 weeks unpaid, with your salary spread over 12 months.

I am so confused sorry. Yes I only take 4 days for a weeks holiday.

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RatedDoingMagic · 04/03/2025 11:09

In your current situation you get paid for working Tue-Fri year-round with 5 weeks annual leave plus pro-rata Bank Holiday days - so if I have understood you correctly, there being (52x4 +1)= 209 Tue-Fri days in a year, you have (4x5 + 0.8*8) = 26.4 of these days as paid leave. You are on a simple 80% of Full Time contract with fair pro-rata terms. (they may round the 0.4 up or down depending on policy)

If you work Term-Time Only, do you want the flexibility to take an additional day off whenever your child's school has an INSET day? The childrens term time is 190 days (38 weeks a year) but the term dates are 195 days (39 weeks) to allow 5 INSET days within the school's discretion. If you want INSET days then you actually want 14 weeks not-working rather than 13.

The Full Time workers with the same Terms&Conditions are getting a total of 33 days of paid leave and work 228 days each year so have 12.64% of the weekdays in the year as paid leave.

So for you to be employed to work on ( 38 x 5 ) = 190 days per year, the fair amount of Paid Leave you should recieve would be 27.5 days per year (because 12.64% of 217.5 days is the 190 days you want to work)

217.5 out of 261 is 83.333% so yes your annual salary should be about the same under these terms (actually a little higher)

OR they may find it easier to keep you as 80% of Full Time and still have the same total number of working and non-working week-days across the year. You currently have 52 unpaid Mondays and 26.4 Paid Annual Leave days per year. If you ask to be moved to flexible working where you still work the same number of days across the year but have school holiday days off rather than mondays and 26.4 variable days then you will actuall have a handful of extra days to take off over and above the school holiday days which you can use for sports days, school plays etc.

HOWEVER - depending on your role, it might be reasonable for them to refuse this arrangement as this working pattern will essentially enable you to over-ride any arrangements for fair sharing of popular holiday dates among a team if cover has to be provided over Christmas and peak summer weeks. Does your role's workload genuinely vary in line with school termtime dates and would any colleagues be expected to work more in school holiday times to accommodate this request?

JimHalpertsWife · 04/03/2025 11:11

What do you mean taking 13 weeks annual leave? Surely the majority of they'll leave will be unpaid?

Dinoswearunderpants · 04/03/2025 15:41

@RatedDoingMagic you are magic!! I actually understood all that. I think the latter option would be much better as then I could sometimes work in the school holidays (when my husband can take a week off) and then I can have some extra days for inset etc.

I think they would accept it in my role.

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Dinoswearunderpants · 04/03/2025 15:41

JimHalpertsWife · 04/03/2025 11:11

What do you mean taking 13 weeks annual leave? Surely the majority of they'll leave will be unpaid?

Yes it will be unpaid but my salary would be worked out and paid the same monthly.

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