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Would you report on line hate crime?

39 replies

lentilbake16 · 16/02/2025 14:37

because I've definitely seen some and taken a screen shot.

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DaffodilsDillyDally · 16/02/2025 22:57

LastTrainsEast · 16/02/2025 22:49

Supporting Free Speech you mean? 🙄
Perhaps you're thinking of a different 1930s Germany?

Yeah what the fuck @Godasiyo? Care to explain your ‘thinking’??

Godasiyo · 16/02/2025 23:01

LastTrainsEast · 16/02/2025 22:49

Supporting Free Speech you mean? 🙄
Perhaps you're thinking of a different 1930s Germany?

There was only one 1930s Germany and it started with hate speech. Your user name is apt.

Godasiyo · 16/02/2025 23:06

DaffodilsDillyDally · 16/02/2025 22:57

Yeah what the fuck @Godasiyo? Care to explain your ‘thinking’??

The Holocaust did not start with the gas chambers, but with hate speech against a minority. The Nazi regime adopted laws and regulations to crush Germany's independent media, replacing it with state-controlled radio and print media that disseminated hate speech, antisemitic, racist stereotypes, disinformation and lies - United Nations.

Genocides do not start with bullets or machetes, they begin with hate speech.
The Holocaust did not start with the gas chambers, but with hate speech. The 1994 genocide against the Tutsi in Rwanda began with decades of hate speech exacerbated by ethnic tensions. The Srebrenica genocide in Bosnia and Herzegovina began with constant nationalist propaganda throughout party-controlled media channels demonizing the Bosnian Muslim population. In recent years, the world has witnessed several mass atrocities. In many of these cases, hate speech was identified as a “precursor to atrocity crimes, including genocide”.
While the use of social media and digital platforms to spread hatred is relatively recent, the weaponization of public discourse for political gain is unfortunately not new. As history continues to show, hate speech coupled with disinformation can lead to stigmatization, discrimination and large-scale violence.

  • United Nations

The building blocks upon which we strive to reconstruct and understand the historical past, including the Holocaust, are primarily words; words supplemented with personal images and artifacts, which, in turn, we explain with words.
It was with words – and images – that the Nazis and their adherents articulated their extreme antisemitic hatred and fanned its flames. With words they determined all Jews to be their archenemies and blamed them for all of the ills of society as they perceived them to be. Undoubtedly, without such hateful words, the brutal and murderous actions would not have followed; furthermore, it was with words that they justified perpetrating the crime of the Holocaust.

  • Dr. Robert Rozett, Senior Historian, International Institute for Holocaust Research, Yad Vashem
lentilbake16 · 17/02/2025 08:04

@Godasiyo I find the phrase "hurty words" hideous tbh.
I expect I am wasting my time reporting it.

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SallyWD · 17/02/2025 08:20

lentilbake16 · 17/02/2025 08:04

@Godasiyo I find the phrase "hurty words" hideous tbh.
I expect I am wasting my time reporting it.

I can't stand the phrase "hurty words" either. It's so minimising and dismissive. It ignores the very real dangers of hate speech and the fact that certain groups are being dehumanised.

lentilbake16 · 17/02/2025 08:24

If anybody is interested I can send them a screen shot. The offending words are from a site which has some connections here.

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INeedAnotherName · 17/02/2025 11:24

if the words are bad enough for you to think about reporting then surely whoever you send them to could report you as well as the original person. Sharing bad stuff, words or pictures, makes you part of the "crime".

Either report to whoever hosts it, ie Facebook, or report it to the police but DO NOT share it. The first option I might be tempted but also aware that they probably won't remove it, the second option i would not as I would rather the police concentrate on solving crimes that have already happened. Only you can decide though.

DaffodilsDillyDally · 17/02/2025 11:38

Godasiyo · 16/02/2025 23:06

The Holocaust did not start with the gas chambers, but with hate speech against a minority. The Nazi regime adopted laws and regulations to crush Germany's independent media, replacing it with state-controlled radio and print media that disseminated hate speech, antisemitic, racist stereotypes, disinformation and lies - United Nations.

Genocides do not start with bullets or machetes, they begin with hate speech.
The Holocaust did not start with the gas chambers, but with hate speech. The 1994 genocide against the Tutsi in Rwanda began with decades of hate speech exacerbated by ethnic tensions. The Srebrenica genocide in Bosnia and Herzegovina began with constant nationalist propaganda throughout party-controlled media channels demonizing the Bosnian Muslim population. In recent years, the world has witnessed several mass atrocities. In many of these cases, hate speech was identified as a “precursor to atrocity crimes, including genocide”.
While the use of social media and digital platforms to spread hatred is relatively recent, the weaponization of public discourse for political gain is unfortunately not new. As history continues to show, hate speech coupled with disinformation can lead to stigmatization, discrimination and large-scale violence.

  • United Nations

The building blocks upon which we strive to reconstruct and understand the historical past, including the Holocaust, are primarily words; words supplemented with personal images and artifacts, which, in turn, we explain with words.
It was with words – and images – that the Nazis and their adherents articulated their extreme antisemitic hatred and fanned its flames. With words they determined all Jews to be their archenemies and blamed them for all of the ills of society as they perceived them to be. Undoubtedly, without such hateful words, the brutal and murderous actions would not have followed; furthermore, it was with words that they justified perpetrating the crime of the Holocaust.

  • Dr. Robert Rozett, Senior Historian, International Institute for Holocaust Research, Yad Vashem

Now get ChatGPT to tell you about Nazi Germany and free speech/censorship.

Are you talking about Tattle, OP?

lentilbake16 · 17/02/2025 12:01

Sorry I don't know what Tattle is.

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lentilbake16 · 17/02/2025 12:02

INeedAnotherName · 17/02/2025 11:24

if the words are bad enough for you to think about reporting then surely whoever you send them to could report you as well as the original person. Sharing bad stuff, words or pictures, makes you part of the "crime".

Either report to whoever hosts it, ie Facebook, or report it to the police but DO NOT share it. The first option I might be tempted but also aware that they probably won't remove it, the second option i would not as I would rather the police concentrate on solving crimes that have already happened. Only you can decide though.

You are quite correct, silly idea. Makes me sick to think people are able to write this stuff freely.

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Godasiyo · 17/02/2025 12:06

lentilbake16 · 17/02/2025 12:01

Sorry I don't know what Tattle is.

Neither do I.

Godasiyo · 17/02/2025 12:08

DaffodilsDillyDally · 17/02/2025 11:38

Now get ChatGPT to tell you about Nazi Germany and free speech/censorship.

Are you talking about Tattle, OP?

I don’t use ChatGPT or Wikipedia. I gave you the sources. You clearly know more than the United Nations and senior Holocaust historian Dr Robert Rozett, though.

Godasiyo · 17/02/2025 12:11

lentilbake16 · 17/02/2025 12:02

You are quite correct, silly idea. Makes me sick to think people are able to write this stuff freely.

I think if it’s not inciting immediate violence or riots like the social media posts last August, the police are unlikely to do anything.

Gingerkittykat · 17/02/2025 20:20

I run a FB group and if I had to report hate speech to the police every time I saw it, I would spend half my life talking to them!

Delete/ report and block is my advice.

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