Class teacher privately tutoring pupils in their class

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DS’s teacher tutors a couple of kids in his class each week. I thought this kind of thing was not permitted (teachers engaging in transactional engagements with parents). Anyone else think this is a bit odd?

In 20 years working in schools I've never known any teachers tutor children from their own school, let alone their own class.

That's asking for all sorts of issues and I don't know any HT that would have been ok with that.

State primary Schools don't teach verbal/non verbal reasoning. They are not allowed to. Therefore, If you live in an area with grammar schools, your children have a disadvantage because they are in competition with children from the many independent schools which do teach it.
I have friends who took their children out of state school in year 4 to send them private, to get them through to grammar.
I went through 11+ papers with my two at home but I worked part time (one a week). Had I been working full time, I couldn't have. Therefore I would have paid a tutor. My two both passed the Bexley test and the Kent test.

It’s pretty normal. In secondary there’s often an agreement between department staff that they’ll only teach someone from someone else’s class but not always.

It's a conflict of interest. Once that teacher is accepting money from those parents, for services rendered, the teachers relationship with those parents changes. The teacher may rely on the money and may have a vested interest in maintaining a better relationship with those parents because they are paying them money.
Can they still be completely impartial when dealing with issues in school that arise involving that child?
No. So it's unethical

^^ This. I'm absolutely appalled that anyone would think this acceptable. Absolutely a conflict of interest.

If it's your own students: totally unacceptable.

Why is that wrong? The whole point of tutoring is to do better than you would have done otherwise. If the parents want to pay for their children to have extra practice (beyond what can be fitted into normal lesson time), why would it be wrong for this to be carried out by the class teacher?

Most teachers don't tutor because they simply don't have time. I don't see why it's a conflict if interest, as long as the school is aware of it.

Dd gets extra support from the head of science in school during registration. It may look like private tutoring but she was badly taught in y9 and y10 and she's bright and predicted high grades- which she's well off reaching at the moment. The HofS has stepped in and is offering her, and a couple of others extra lessons to boost their grades.

It looks like tutoring, but it's unpaid and in the teachers' free period.

My understanding is that teachers can tutor, but not students that they teach.
My teacher friends would not tutor pupils/students they teach. Not even the same school.

It seems wrong.

All my friends who teach tutors but not children in their school. For them it's about having boundaries and stay impartial during exams.

Wouldn't happen as salary progression is linked to pupil progress. It is in teachers' interest to get as good result as possible across the board for all pupils. When pupils are not meeting age related expectations, we tutor during assemblies, playtimes and lunch times as required. I've children in my school who are up to their eyeballs in interventions and are tutored to within an inch of their lives. We're a primary in an area of significant deprivation and very aware that children get one chance at primary education, so we have better make it count.

You've made an assumption here that the tutoring happens at school. I think this is highly unlikely!

My school is one of the most laissez faire on the planet, and this is emphatically not allowed at all.

is he actually tutoring them as in getting paid or is he doing additional classes with a select few? In my DDs school some pupils have additional classes during and after school either because they are not working at a level they should be or are excelling in certain areas so are doing additional work. This happens a lot when the kids get to year 6.

mids2019 · Today 18:53
Two teir teaching
You get the extra support from the tutor if you pay up?
Little Johnny has problems with maths so he goes to the teacher for support as long as his parents cough up?
Do you reserve the top teaching aids or tips for the tutees and the normal class gets the big standard lesson?
Sorry this sounds dodgy

Don't be ridiculous. Wtf are 'top teaching aids'? The scenario you describe is weird and completely made up. There's no 'standard lesson' vs 'super special lesson for kids of parents with deep pockets' Teachers help kids for free all the bloody time. Any pupil who asks me if they can have some extra work / come and get some help at lunch time is welcome to do so. Tutoring is a separate arrangement, whether it's done by a teacher at the school or an external tutor.

Salary progression should not be linked to pupil progress

Whycanineverthinkofone · Today 18:43

Presumably it’s unethical in that the teacher could be deliberately slowing down class progress in order to capitalize on the offering paid tutoring to make up the gaps?

There's really no end to the utter bullshit people make up about how schools and teachers operate

The whole thread is just one lomg stream of reckoning things and saying 'As I understand it' or 'Well I guess it's because...'. Not to mention teachers assuming it works the same in all schools (which it very clearly doesn't)!

Haven’t read all the replies but in answer some questions: the teacher tutors in the pupils home. I found out purely by accident as DS is friends with one of the tutored kids and the mum mentioned it to me. Both of my DC have had/currently have maths tutors so I have no issue with tutoring itself. I just didn’t think schools would permit teachers to receive payment from parents of children in their class for any reason. I do think it creates an odd dynamic between the teacher and the parents who are paying them.

DC’s previous school did not allow this kind of thing and they were quite strict. Years ago I remember chatting to DD’s Reception teacher and saying I was trying to find a hairdresser who could deal with DD’s specific hair type. It turned out the teacher’s daughter was a hairdresser and she was able to help. She came to our house and cut DD’s hair a few times but then suddenly announced she couldn’t any more. Her mum found out she wasn’t even permitted to introduce family members to parents for any kind of paid service. Teachers were definitely not allowed to undertake paid work from parents either!

My LA permits teachers to tutor but not children in the school they teach.

Scotland.

It would be unfair as it would change the relationship between the teacher and the tutor pupil to their advantage. I would ask the headteacher if tutoring is allowed or to keep it more anonymous after the local authority if they allow teachers to tutor children in their own classes.

It would be unfair as it would change the relationship between the teacher and the tutor pupil to their advantage.

Why? It benefits the teacher if their class members get good results. It benefits the teacher if their tutee gets good results.

You can't see how a child could do even better if given additional time 1 to 1, rather than being taught solely in a class of 30?

It's almost as if people don't think that teachers are already trying to get the best possible results out of the kids in their class. Why wouldn't we? They are our class' results. They reflect on us.