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Could a lot of my chronic health issues really be down to my childhood and family dynamics?

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MellowAfternoon · 21/01/2025 09:23

Sorry if this turns out to be long but I am trying to 'find' myself right now and am on a desperate quest to feel better than I currently do.

I started a thread a few weeks ago asking for help regarding my myriad of chronic health issues. I had lots of great suggestions for the possible cause of these ongoing issues (seen many doctors but still struggling). I am aware that some issues such as my endometriosis are most probably not caused by anything psychological but I did have a couple of replies suggesting that my problems could have resulted from my past and they asked about my childhood. My knee-jerk response was, and always has been that I have had no issues from my childhood at all and it was in fact great (and I still believe that in many ways).

But I am now poking deeper into my thoughts over this and am beginning to think this poster correct, as much as I don't want to admit that. I do currently hold a lot of anger inside me and am wondering if this is stagnating and causing my issues?

My issues are high anxiety, depression and dreadful digestive issues which are really troublesome at the moment no matter what I try. I will try to link the OP but I am not good at this.

I have always felt that my younger sister is my father's favoured child (it's just my sister and I). I was very close to my mum and we had a good relationship. I would say I had a great relationship with my dad too but now I am older I see him for what he is. He is really quite self-centred, always has been. Both my parents are only children and had full attention from both sets of parents (my dad was very spoiled by my nan and she never really liked my mum). They have never had to struggle for money and until recently have enjoyed good health, had lots of holidays, weekends away, new cars, outings with friends most weekends etc. I believe they had a golden life and when my grandparents died they had lots of inheritance having no siblings to split it with, this has made them very well off. My dad has spent the last 20 years going out on his motorbike, spending several days a week on the golf course and weekends out with my mum and their friends. Now mum is unwell, all he does is moan that his life is over, he says this is not what he envisioned for his retirement. He is 84, not quite sure he thought he was going to be doing at this age. He is fortunate in many ways as he is in good health and many people don't reach this age. He has hundreds of thousands in the bank. I he doesn't have to worry about heating bills or cutting back on food etc. I totally understand who crap this must be for him hence to reason I am at theirs 4-5 days a week to help but never once, ever, does he acknowledge that his current situation is affecting my sister and I as well. He hates spending any of his money of care for my mum and only just about shells out for a carer in the mornings and for mum's day centre visits twice a week (this is despite half of this cost being paid for by mum's attendance allowance).

When I was growing up I had lots of mental health issues from a small child. I imagine some of this is hereditary and/or learned behaviour as my mum always had anxiety issues, as did her parents.

I had ocd as a young girl and would develop fears over certain things. For instance, a primary school friend told me if you cut your wrist you would bleed to death. I was too young to understand this fully so my brain would imagine a simple nick or scrape to the wrist would result in death so as a result of these fears I kept my wrists covered and hated touching them (still do) but my dad would find this funny and if I walked passed him when he was in the kitchen cutting something with a knife he would grab my wrist and use the blunt side to pretend to saw at my wrist. It goes without saying this left me horrified. I developed many ocd's and anxieties over the years and my dad in particular would tease me over these rather than try to quell my fears. I was born in 1973, I understand few people would take their children to see a mental health expert at this time but I always feel no one helped me make sense of my anxieties and feel this lead me to go on to have bigger mental health issues as a child and further on into adulthood.

Then there is my sister. I love my sister but I feel she has always been my dad's favourite, they have the same juvenile sense of humour and I have always been more serious. My sister has done many stupid things in her life such as having an affair with a married man with kids (still with him), getting into dept and giving away her inheritance to someone she was in a relationship with but my parents have always bailed her out. I have been with my dh since the age of 16 and they have never helped me. (we got a food mixer for our wedding present). Even now with all of my health issues my dad had never offered to help even though he has all that money yet now mum has dementia he calls upon me to help all the time.
He is fully aware of my current health struggles yet simply says 'You've seen loads of people, no one can help you' yet as soon as he has even the slightest of health issues it's all I hear about. Yesterday, he called me in a panic asking me to get him into the GP (despite me having an appointment myself as I have had a awful stomach issues the last two weeks), all because he had cut his finger whilst making dinner. It was a cut, not a nice one but nothing a plaster and a few days of healing won't sort out but no, I was expected to drop everything and sort out his finger.

Mum was diagnosed with Alzheimer's 7 years ago and for the last 5 years I have been helping them out all the time but deep down I feel angry I suppose. I truly feel they haven't done a lot for me over the years, my two dc are their only gc and although they used to have them over in the daytime they only had them overnight a few times (dc are now 20 and 18). They were well behaved kids but they never seemed to want them to stay over (luckily my lovely mil did from time to time). In fact around 10 years ago they were due to have them for 2 nights so dh and I could go away for our wedding anniversary. The day before my dad rang up to say he couldn't have them because his shoulder hurt. We had to cancel the weekend and ended up losing our money. Yet they have bailed out my sister loads and even bought her partner a car when he left his wife and kids for my sister.

I could go on but I know this is too long already but my question really is, could I be holding all of this in? Could my chronic physical issues really be as a result of all of this? My husband thinks so and he has always told me my family are selfish.

I don't know what to think tbh and I suppose deep down I don't want to admit this as I truly thought my childhood was great and I really do love my parents.
The problem is that I don't know how to address this. I am currently not working due to my health issues so have no funds for psychological help. I have had many cbt sessions via the NHS over the years but they are short and many of the therapists are in training, I feel this would be something I would need to see a seasoned professional for?

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HairyToity · 21/01/2025 09:37

Deep breaths, they sound narcissists. It's too late to change them. Keep distance at a minimum (personally wouldn't go non communicative), and work on yourself and your family. Read the books, get outdoors, go for walks, eat healthily, start a gentle beginner pilates class.

Don't spend too long feeling sorry for yourself and brewing hate.

If your parents complain, ask them to get your sister to visit and help.

HairyToity · 21/01/2025 09:39

P.S. Therapy is something very personal. My husband has poor health, has a suprapubic catheter and stoma, and he's had therapy. One helped him enormously, and one didn't (they didn't do any harm though). Meet the therapist first and form a view, if it isn't NHS you can be choosy.

MellowAfternoon · 21/01/2025 09:42

HairyToity · 21/01/2025 09:37

Deep breaths, they sound narcissists. It's too late to change them. Keep distance at a minimum (personally wouldn't go non communicative), and work on yourself and your family. Read the books, get outdoors, go for walks, eat healthily, start a gentle beginner pilates class.

Don't spend too long feeling sorry for yourself and brewing hate.

If your parents complain, ask them to get your sister to visit and help.

Thanks. I have started taking very small steps back and will try to invest more time in.myself this year.

I can't afford therapy so I'll need to find some good books and try to deal with it that way.

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MellowAfternoon · 21/01/2025 09:46

This is a typical example of my family.

My sister knows I'm not feeling well atm yet she just text me asking me to go collect her prescription from the local pharmacy, she asks me every bloody month.

She's 50 this year, I've never asked my family to do stuff like this for me.

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ChickenShittyBangBang · 21/01/2025 09:49

I was thinking your father sounds much like my ex MIL, she has very strong narcissistic tendencies and my ex FIL had dementia - make of that what you will.

I would find it hard not to see the connection between your father in particular's behaviour and your health problems. Your body keeps the score.

Dr Ramani on YouTube is a great help when it comes to understanding narcissism and how to deal with it.

I think you need to start putting yourself first, stop being so available. Your sister can find another way of getting her prescription. Your father can find his own plaster. Learn the art of grey rock, it will stand you in good stead.

I'm sorry you've been and are still going through all this, it's not easy Flowers

Happyinarcon · 21/01/2025 09:59

Based on my own experience I would say your illnesses are trauma related. You need to move your body off fight or flight mode so it can heal. You need to find a therapy mode that targets stored trauma that suits you. Prayer has sped this process up for me but each to their own. Meditation is an easy, cheap way to start healing for most people as it gets your nervous system used to relaxing.

CharSiu · 21/01/2025 10:06

Stomach issues can be related to how your head is feeling psychologically as can skin issues and aches and pains.

What you need is acceptance that they are like that and that it is out of your control. The disconnect is that they are people you are supposed to love freely.

So loyalty means you assist still and are around people that fundamentally you would not choose to spend time with because as a person you do not like your Father's behaviour. You can love someone but not like them.

You are also focussing on why they prefer your sister and why they haven’t helped you with money.

The money is clouding the situation further and again you cannot change how they act. All you can change is yourself and your reaction to the situation.

Whatever you do for him will never be enough. There may even be a very unfair will situation coming your way with the way the estate is split.

CharSiu · 21/01/2025 10:10

Well just don’t get her prescription.
You would do well to withdraw from the situation a little if not completely.

I would not be treated like that by all of them and would happily go without an inheritance but that’s me.

MellowAfternoon · 21/01/2025 10:19

Thanks everyone. I'm going to start looking into this a bit more deeply and try to learn ways of saying no.

I've just replied to my sister saying I can't collect the prescription and she'd be better of having it sent to our local boots which is open 6 days a week as opposed to the pharmacy at the GP surgery which is only open 3 mornings a week especially seeing she works every morning. That didn't go down well, no doubt she'll ask our elderly father to go get it.

CharSiu I have always said that I love my dad but I don't always like him. I feel terribly guilty for feeling that way though. I definitely need to work on this.

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trivialMorning · 21/01/2025 10:21

My issues are high anxiety, depression and dreadful digestive issues which are really troublesome at the moment no matter what I try.

It could be related to long term chronic stress - but anxiety and depression can be learnt behavior. I thought my anxiety - low level - was learnt behavior increasingly wonder if it's more to do with ND in family.

Ultimately you need to deal with the behaviour now - start saying NO. No I can't pick up the prescription - this service may help ( if no too much ) - No I can't get there for your finger you'll have to do something else. You may need to screen calls and reduce contact to certain times.

Also try not to dwell on the past and make yourself upset with it - easier said than done. You could try distraction to break thought pattern or write it down then move on.

Your still going to need help for the health problems - obviously I expect you clearly know this - the digestive issue I'd keep a food diary - see a dietitian if you haven't already rule out more common issues - Celiac disease etc- try more herbal/traditional medicine things thing bone broth - herbal teas like fennel - or things that won't harm but may help reduce inflammation.

Ultimately they aren't going to suddenly change who they are so you have to change how you react to them - you need to manage them and contact you have with them - to reduce your stress levels.

Toxic parents may have some helpful hints or How To Deal With Difficult People: Smart Tactics for Overcoming the Problem People in Your Life

trivialMorning · 21/01/2025 10:23

I've just replied to my sister saying I can't collect the prescription and she'd be better of having it sent to our local boots which is open 6 days a week as opposed to the pharmacy at the GP surgery which is only open 3 mornings a week especially seeing she works every morning. That didn't go down well, no doubt she'll ask our elderly father to go get it.

That exactly the way to handle it - and your father is grown independent adult who also has ability to tell her no - it's not your responsibility never was.

turkeyboots · 21/01/2025 10:26

There is a very real, and increasingly understood, gut-brain connection. You won't fix one without fixing the other. You've had lots of useful advice above, but therapy for you would help.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/the-gut-brain-connection#:~:text=A%20troubled%20intestine%20can%20send,GI)%20system%20are%20intimately%20connected.

MellowAfternoon · 21/01/2025 10:51

trivialMorning · 21/01/2025 10:21

My issues are high anxiety, depression and dreadful digestive issues which are really troublesome at the moment no matter what I try.

It could be related to long term chronic stress - but anxiety and depression can be learnt behavior. I thought my anxiety - low level - was learnt behavior increasingly wonder if it's more to do with ND in family.

Ultimately you need to deal with the behaviour now - start saying NO. No I can't pick up the prescription - this service may help ( if no too much ) - No I can't get there for your finger you'll have to do something else. You may need to screen calls and reduce contact to certain times.

Also try not to dwell on the past and make yourself upset with it - easier said than done. You could try distraction to break thought pattern or write it down then move on.

Your still going to need help for the health problems - obviously I expect you clearly know this - the digestive issue I'd keep a food diary - see a dietitian if you haven't already rule out more common issues - Celiac disease etc- try more herbal/traditional medicine things thing bone broth - herbal teas like fennel - or things that won't harm but may help reduce inflammation.

Ultimately they aren't going to suddenly change who they are so you have to change how you react to them - you need to manage them and contact you have with them - to reduce your stress levels.

Toxic parents may have some helpful hints or How To Deal With Difficult People: Smart Tactics for Overcoming the Problem People in Your Life

I am on a waiting list for an ADHD assessment. I often wonder if my not being able to say no and people pleasing all the time is connected to Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria? I hate the thought of upsetting people when I have said no as with my sister this morning. I won't know any of this until I have my assessment but I am keeping that in mind.

That's half the issue I suppose, I spend my time saying yes to people (especially family) when I really want to say no and knowing they never return any favours but then I spend my time eternally raging about it. I do physically feel this in my gut, I must clench my muscles etc.

I have tried everything suggested for my gut issues (and have cameras up/cameras down etc) but I think, truly, I won't ever experience a calmer digestive system until I address all of these other issues.

Thank you for the link.

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MellowAfternoon · 21/01/2025 10:52

Thank you turkeyboots

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MellowAfternoon · 21/01/2025 11:08

And now I feel awful simply because I had suggested to my sister that maybe she should arrange to have her prescription moved over to our local Boots, then she can collect it after work. She has responded saying it's too late for that for this month's prescription and now she has no way of getting it because I am refusing to collect it ffs.

I know it is not my responsibility yet I am made to feel bad even though after all these months of getting her prescription every month not once have I actually offered, she has asked every single month and now I have finally said no she is in a strop with me.

I have never, not even once asked anyone to get my prescriptions for me (or anything else for that matter). I have not even asked my dh yet I am being made to feel guilty for saying no to a 50 year old woman. I have never asked anything from her, she doesn't have a relationship with my dc, her only niece and nephew because she had no interest in them whilst they were growing up, which is her choice but she 'jokingly' says they will have to look after her in her old age as she won't have any dc to help her. Fucking cheek.

This is because my parents have mollycoddled my sister all her life, this is what happens when you are the favourite child. She often has my elderly dad sitting in her home all day when she has plumbers/electricians etc doing work for her., she nor her partner will take a day off like the rest of us would.

She even spent the evening with us in our hotel room on our wedding day because she didn't want to be on her own in her hotel room. We have pandered to her every whim, my parents started it and I willingly partook in this madness. I think back to that and think to myself 'What the fuck was I thinking'.

I am a mug, I know.

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Bextehude · 21/01/2025 11:48

You are not a mug, you've been groomed to come last.

HairyToity · 21/01/2025 11:55

Absolutely not a mug, just a kind person, who doesn't like confrontation. Stay calm and keep your answers to family members short. Try not to analyse things, and ideally don't waste your time trying to explain yourself to your family.

ChickenShittyBangBang · 21/01/2025 12:06

Bextehude · 21/01/2025 11:48

You are not a mug, you've been groomed to come last.

This, this and this again.

I hate the thought of upsetting people when I have said no

They're not going to like or respect you any more for saying yes. They are users. Your health, welfare and happiness are nothing to them. Actually your poor health, welfare and lack of happiness means more to them than the opposite. They want you low so that you won't stand up to them. You're not standing up to them you're standing up for yourself and why shouldn't you.

Fucking cheek

Atta girl! Hold on to that. Fuck's sake, sitting with you on your wedding night, she really doesn't like you having autonomy, despite being the favoured one herself.

The more distance you put between yourself and your sister and father the better. You will never win with them so you might as well put yourself and your own family first Flowers

trivialMorning · 21/01/2025 12:14

I am on a waiting list for an ADHD assessment. I often wonder if my not being able to say no and people pleasing all the time is connected to Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria? I hate the thought of upsetting people when I have said no as with my sister this morning.

ADHD is one of many things running though my family - and family I married into. DD1 says the low level anti depressant she on helps massively with everyday life and low level anxiety.

There some limited research that gut problems and ADHD may be linked
https://www.everydayhealth.com/adhd/gut-health-and-adhd-is-there-a-link/
https://augmentive.io/blog/adhd-gut-health

I don't know anything about Reaction sensitivity. I was raised to be a people pleaser spent my 20s trying to unlearn. FOG - Fear Obligation Guilt - might want to look up.

I had to get to point with our family of seeing they didn't care if we were upset so it was okay to upset them at times with no or by being blunt. We both come from families with difficult people in - and a lot of ND not always same people - but easier to see that in each others.

Once we stop accepting poor behavior found they all managed to behave much better with us and our kids.

What Does Your Gut Have to Do With ADHD?

Exciting research suggests that certain bacteria in the gut have a direct effect on how you think and feel, creating new possibilities for treating ADHD.

https://www.everydayhealth.com/adhd/gut-health-and-adhd-is-there-a-link

trivialMorning · 21/01/2025 12:19

The another book older - Games people play - I was leant that helped me see some patterns of behavior.

There's also an https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/elderly_parents board which may have help with how to manage with your Father demands and still manage to get time for yourself.

Caring For Elderly Parents Forum UK | Mumsnet | Mumsnet

Caring for elderly parents brings many challenges. Whether its finding carers, picking retirement homes or something else, Get support and advice here.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/elderly_parents

Willowkins · 21/01/2025 12:30

There's a Canadian doctor called Gabor Maté who talks a lot of sense about the effect of childhood trauma on our bodies. He's on YouTube Gabor Maté and he's written books such as The Myth of Normal.

MellowAfternoon · 21/01/2025 12:40

ChickenShittyBangBang · 21/01/2025 12:06

This, this and this again.

I hate the thought of upsetting people when I have said no

They're not going to like or respect you any more for saying yes. They are users. Your health, welfare and happiness are nothing to them. Actually your poor health, welfare and lack of happiness means more to them than the opposite. They want you low so that you won't stand up to them. You're not standing up to them you're standing up for yourself and why shouldn't you.

Fucking cheek

Atta girl! Hold on to that. Fuck's sake, sitting with you on your wedding night, she really doesn't like you having autonomy, despite being the favoured one herself.

The more distance you put between yourself and your sister and father the better. You will never win with them so you might as well put yourself and your own family first Flowers

Thank you. Tbh I only put up with them because of my mum, once my parents are gone I can't honestly see what my sister and I will have in common. I'm really sad about that but it's my reality.

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DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 21/01/2025 12:47

Childhood trauma can come out in many ways but physically it can come out in skin, digestive issues and immune system, I was told.

It takes an enormous amount to begin to say No when you have been trained to be the family skivvy. It will feel all kinds of wrong, and you'll feel guilty and even self-loathing. But if you want things to change (very rightly so!) then you have to do it, you have to say No.

I would warn your sister that you won't be able to pick up prescriptions from now on or do so many little favours. She'll come up with 1000 reasons why you should (who wants to lose an unpaid servant, right?) but you have the moral justification to say No and to assert a reasonable, adult independence and to not do more for her than she does for you.

About feeling guilty about not liking your father.

People, including children, feel about others on the basis of the way they are treated.

So if someone treats you well, specially a parent, you'll love them and like them. If they don't, even if it's a parent - well, how they behave towards you defines how you feel about them.

It takes an awful lot for a child to grow to dislike or to stop loving their parent. An awful lot. In every case I've come across similar to yours, it's because the parents richly earned the dislike.

MellowAfternoon · 21/01/2025 12:51

trivialMorning · 21/01/2025 12:14

I am on a waiting list for an ADHD assessment. I often wonder if my not being able to say no and people pleasing all the time is connected to Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria? I hate the thought of upsetting people when I have said no as with my sister this morning.

ADHD is one of many things running though my family - and family I married into. DD1 says the low level anti depressant she on helps massively with everyday life and low level anxiety.

There some limited research that gut problems and ADHD may be linked
https://www.everydayhealth.com/adhd/gut-health-and-adhd-is-there-a-link/
https://augmentive.io/blog/adhd-gut-health

I don't know anything about Reaction sensitivity. I was raised to be a people pleaser spent my 20s trying to unlearn. FOG - Fear Obligation Guilt - might want to look up.

I had to get to point with our family of seeing they didn't care if we were upset so it was okay to upset them at times with no or by being blunt. We both come from families with difficult people in - and a lot of ND not always same people - but easier to see that in each others.

Once we stop accepting poor behavior found they all managed to behave much better with us and our kids.

Thank you, this is very helpful.

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MellowAfternoon · 21/01/2025 12:52

Willowkins · 21/01/2025 12:30

There's a Canadian doctor called Gabor Maté who talks a lot of sense about the effect of childhood trauma on our bodies. He's on YouTube Gabor Maté and he's written books such as The Myth of Normal.

I often see him pop up on YouTube, I will start watching his videos, thanks.

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