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How old is the child thay wrote this?

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NewNameBridget · 20/01/2025 18:12

Taking into account handwriting and spelling? The two seem incongruous to me.

I don't think sentence complexity will help as I am pretty sure she rushed this, so was churning out sentences vs. concentrating on sentence structure.

The irony of my typo in the headline 😔

How old is the child thay wrote this?
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Tahlbias · 20/01/2025 18:57

I would say this is about right for a year 3/4 child. Spelling doesn't have to be spot on. I teach year 3 children and this looks brilliant!

LuckyOrMaybe · 20/01/2025 18:57

Reminds me a bit of my daughter. Good content, adequate handwriting, appalling spelling - her grandmother (with a background in remedial teaching) spent a lot of time with us when she was in year 3 and 4 and helped her learn her spellings for tests, but it still didn't show up in written work. Her teachers weren't bothered about it at all until year 7, at which point I was relieved to no longer be the only one worrying. I definitely recognise your sense that she doesn't have a visual of a word "looking right".

We did get some assessments done a couple of times but she didn't meet thresholds. I think she had a bit of a spiky profile, but between normal and very high in different subtests. Interestingly her father also recalls being pulled up on spelling issues in year 7. But her brother like me found good spelling instinctive.

She was on an academic scholarship from age 13 and is now nearing the end of an English degree. Though her text the other day, having just finished a major essay, acknowledged that the last spellcheck before submission was rather critical ...

So, what worked? I think knowing spelling rules is important (eg doubling consonant when adding ing after a short vowel but not a long one, that sort of thing); understanding groups of words with similar patterns - which you can also extend through looking at the origins of words (my daughter is very interested in etymology); but most of all accepting the reasons why correct spelling matters eg homonyms and so on. Acknowledging that sometimes mistakes happen and you might have to take extra care to spell things right. Drafting, correcting and copying out the correct version. Learning how to type and how to check your writing on a computer - how to spell check but also what words to watch out for because the spellcheck will miss them. Knowing that things may go wrong when you are tired.

Good luck from here, I hope you can get your daughter some effective support because I think you have to get the balance right between encouraging them to just write, to be able to get their ideas down on paper, and supporting them to write "right", getting a sentence down correctly first time.

BananaNirvana · 20/01/2025 18:58

BlackBean2023 · 20/01/2025 18:31

I'd hazard a guess at year 3/4. It's lovely and neat.

LOL at those suggesting a reception/year 1 child - got to love MN!

Just thinking the same thing although tbf my 2 year old is very gifted and already reading Shakespeare 😜😂

Sherrystrull · 20/01/2025 18:58

The spelling is within a year 2/3 level where they are increasingly confident with different graphemes for all of the phonemes.

For example 'pason' instead of 'passion'.
She will know that a 's' can make a 'sh'
sound for example in 'sugar' but isn't clear on the rules and which words need which grapheme.

NewNameBridget · 20/01/2025 19:00

IkaBaar · 20/01/2025 18:57

Does she have other signs of dyslexia?

What is she like at maths? I.e. is she ahead at everything except spelling?

Are you wondering whether to seek a private assessment for dyslexia?

My dd is 8 and has recently been diagnosed with dyslexia. She can read surprisingly well, but has very little phonological awareness and terrible spelling.

She's a solid all-rounder, ahead of the curve for reading, maths, etc. - it's just spelling.

The only oddity in maths is reversing some numbers.

And yes, I'm considering a private assessment - BUT on the other hand, I don't want to do what's in her best interest, and if it might sort out in time (like reading did), or it won't make any material difference to her education or happiness - then it's not something I want to push for or make her feel pressured about.

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IkaBaar · 20/01/2025 19:05

I read somewhere that with dyslexia the difficulties with reading can often be overcome but the difficulties with spelling persist. If she’s happy and coping at school, then there is no huge rush.

mynameiscalypso · 20/01/2025 19:06

I have a brother who is dyslexic and some of the things you've mentioned are similar to him

justletmegetmyglasses · 20/01/2025 19:06

Age 10 and dyslexic

qwertyasdfgzxcv · 20/01/2025 19:07

Year 2/3 so between 6-8

Dogsaresomucheasier · 20/01/2025 19:09

Secondary teacher here. I think girl, anywhere from 9-13, especially the older end if they are translating from a second language. They are clever, motivated but have dyslexia and spell much younger than they comprehend.

MidnightMusing5 · 20/01/2025 19:09

Witchywoo41 · 20/01/2025 18:17

I agree with this, my daughter was the same in year 2

Same for my yr 2 daughter

justletmegetmyglasses · 20/01/2025 19:13

My daughter is severely dyslexic but I only spelling dyslexia. I also read really well. My dad and brother are the same . If you have the means I would get a private assessment, even if they're putting in Nessy now she could get lost in high school.

Saltandvin · 20/01/2025 19:17

This thread has really highlighted how pointless these threads are. A Y3 teacher can see a mile off it's a Y3 (possibly Y4) task as it's the easier words from the statutory Y3/4 spelling list. Then comments like 'cursive isn't often taught now' - it's literally on the National Curriculum from Y2!

jannier · 20/01/2025 19:24

kiana2015 · 20/01/2025 18:17

Judging by spelling I would say reception/year1

No way

Wonderi · 20/01/2025 19:33

I’m impressed with the capital letters and full stops! Well done DD :)

ItGhoul · 20/01/2025 19:33

The spelling is the only issue here. Even then, she's mostly getting it phonetically correct - it's not like she's getting the letters the wrong way round etc. I have a colleague with dyslexia and where she's written 'especially' as 'espeshly' (which phonetically is an accurate rendition of how a child would say it) he would probably write it as something more like 'episcllay'.

Her handwriting is good and her vocabulary seems fine. She's using capital letters and punctuation correctly. I don't think I'd be particularly worried about an eight-year-old who wrote like this, although obviously the spelling is just something to keep an eye on.

Vettrianofan · 20/01/2025 19:35

10/11

MadeofCoffee · 21/01/2025 20:07

Can you ask for a screening test in school? Speak to her teacher and the Senco. It's great that she loves reading though, hopefully that will help her catch up.

tunainatin · 21/01/2025 20:08

This is about the same standard as my 10 year old, though he's a bit behind his class so imagine this could be 8-9?

MadeofCoffee · 21/01/2025 20:09

Meant to say I would think spelling, reversing numbers (and letters or just numbers?) with the family history would justify a screening test.

Saschka · 21/01/2025 20:10

Year 3. Lovely writing, can’t spell.

Blueeyedmale · 21/01/2025 20:14

I would probably guess around 8 to 10 but lovely handwriting im 43 and still can't do joined up handwriting and struggle with some lower case letters especially a,b,q

MaggieMistletoe · 21/01/2025 20:19

The posters suggesting it's a reception aged child🙄 only on Mumsnet!

Printedword · 21/01/2025 20:20

Spicykitten · 20/01/2025 18:15

My guess is eight. Lovely to see cursive, it’s rarely taught in schools these days

Oh have they stopped now? It was the thing when our DC - now 19 - was little

Saltandvin · 21/01/2025 20:47

Printedword · 21/01/2025 20:20

Oh have they stopped now? It was the thing when our DC - now 19 - was little

No, it's on the national curriculum (in England anyway). You cannot reach the expected standard for Y6 writing unless your handwriting is fluently and consistently joined.