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Vinted - have you informed HMRC about sales, or earnings. Im under the threshold but been told to report 🤷‍♀️

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CornishTeaTime · 15/01/2025 13:01

Vinted has advised to report/complete a form Ive made £600 since starting with them over 65 sales.

I work part time and also do self employed work one day a week which Im registered for...do I need to declare vi ted earnings on my tax assessement in April 🤷‍♀️

Anyone done this?

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SandlersToe · 16/01/2025 13:22

Just submit the form nothing bad is going to happen.

Negroany · 16/01/2025 13:32

CornishTeaTime · 16/01/2025 13:21

Mine is due April. Last year I did it in April. @Georgyporky

Self assessment is always due end of Jan, for everyone. Though there are some earlier dates for different types of submission.

End Jan this year is for tax year ending 5/4/24.

Maybe that's what you're thinking of, the reference period rather than the due date? You can do it any time after 6/4 each year, once you have all your details in.

I tend to do mine around June, as that's when I'll have for everything I need together. P60 etc.

quantumbutterfly · 16/01/2025 13:37

Fuckle · 16/01/2025 11:40

Don't fanny around with the £1,000 trading allowance. If you are serious about tax mitigation, you need to open a headquartered Irish company in Dublin, which leases the IP rights to a Luxembourg Societe Anonyme, both companies being members of a Dutch Co-Operative, established for this purpose, with dividends paid through a Maltese agent. The Maltese agent purchases UK GIlts or Treasury TIPS and washed out the profit as a capital gain. That way you have no obligations to report anything in the UK, but could suggest to HMRC an annual profit of £30 in the UK and only pay £5.70 in tax, despite turnover of £2.3 billion. The following year, write off the depreciated IP against this year's tax bill and get the £5.70 back. With interest.

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recipientofraspberries · 16/01/2025 13:41

Georgyporky · 16/01/2025 12:10

Not sure from your post, but are you aware self-assessment tax form has to be completed by 31/01 ?

And any tax due must be paid by this date to avoid penalties.

That's not exactly true; self assessment must be done by the 31st and at least one payment towards any tax must be made, but you don't have to pay everything by the 31st.

Mrsbloggz · 16/01/2025 13:53

The last thing HMRC wants is a tax liability for people selling their 'old shite'.
There would be no tax to pay because you would be selling it at a loss, which loss could be used to offset tax which is due on profits- leaving HMRC worse off.

spannasaurus · 16/01/2025 13:58

recipientofraspberries · 16/01/2025 13:41

That's not exactly true; self assessment must be done by the 31st and at least one payment towards any tax must be made, but you don't have to pay everything by the 31st.

You would have to pay all the tax due for 2023/24 by 31 January 2025

Banyon · 16/01/2025 14:07

Taxing the private school parents… now it’s taxing you and your side hustle. Everyone needs to contribute to building the economy!!

The platforms will be required to hand information to HRMC … they will find you. It’s politics!

enjoy !

bunnybunnybunnybunny · 16/01/2025 14:07

Ok, last May, I received the following from Vinted:

'You’re one of Vinted’s most successful sellers, with 43 sales and £2245 of earnings in 2024.
To keep that up next year, we need your help to meet a UK requirement called HMRC reporting.
We prepared everything for you - check it out.'

I consented to the form, returned it (all online and via Vinted) and that was that. No penalties, no tax to pay.

I expect it will be exactly the same this year. I've sold more, but still under the £6k threshold.

Am a private seller, not a business. Am selling my old clothes and accessories, and re-selling any Vinted items that weren't right for me.

Edited to add that I've yet to receive notification about this year.

Doggymummar · 16/01/2025 14:13

I think they are aiming to tax people that buy from carboots and cheap dropship sellers and sell in for a profit rather than those getting rid of their own clothing. Not sure how it works for people buying at charity shops or clearance lines. I bought some stuff 90pc off in the sales non refundable and it doesn't fit so was going to put it on V.

spannasaurus · 16/01/2025 14:21

https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/business-income-manual/bim20205

If anyone really wants to know how HMRC decide if you are trading or not then look at the Badges of Trade section in HMRC's business manual.

BIM20205 - Meaning of trade: badges of trade: summary - HMRC internal manual - GOV.UK

https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/business-income-manual/bim20205

Fuckle · 16/01/2025 14:25

bunnybunnybunnybunny · 16/01/2025 14:07

Ok, last May, I received the following from Vinted:

'You’re one of Vinted’s most successful sellers, with 43 sales and £2245 of earnings in 2024.
To keep that up next year, we need your help to meet a UK requirement called HMRC reporting.
We prepared everything for you - check it out.'

I consented to the form, returned it (all online and via Vinted) and that was that. No penalties, no tax to pay.

I expect it will be exactly the same this year. I've sold more, but still under the £6k threshold.

Am a private seller, not a business. Am selling my old clothes and accessories, and re-selling any Vinted items that weren't right for me.

Edited to add that I've yet to receive notification about this year.

Edited

The £6k is a CGT limit on chattels. HMRC are interested in whether you are engaged in an "adventure in the nature of a trade". If you are, you are liable to income tax on trading profits.

Selling second hand items that were bought for personal use is not an "adventure in the nature of a trade". You will not be liable to income tax on those clothes sales.

The reporting to HMRC means little from your perspective. Self-Assessment is exactly what is says. You decide if you are liable and file an annual return. If HMRC contact you, you may need some proof these were personal second-hand items - photographs of you wearing those items might help. 43 items sold is not excessive. I doubt HMRC will be interested other than sending you a 'nudge letter'.

LikeMyHeartIsAboutToStopBeating · 16/01/2025 14:26

How do they check this? I sell things I no longer want on eBay. Sometimes they have been much worn and loved, sometimes they are things I bought on eBay that aren't quite right, sometimes they are barely worn. I often don't have receipts and even if I did, for items that were second hand anyway I may be selling them for the same amount I bought them for or even a touch more. How do i demonstrate if asked that this is all personal selling? I don't expect I will sell more than £1000 this tax year but it's possible if I list a couple of expensive dresses and pairs of shoes I no longer wear.

bunnybunnybunnybunny · 16/01/2025 14:31

Fuckle · 16/01/2025 14:25

The £6k is a CGT limit on chattels. HMRC are interested in whether you are engaged in an "adventure in the nature of a trade". If you are, you are liable to income tax on trading profits.

Selling second hand items that were bought for personal use is not an "adventure in the nature of a trade". You will not be liable to income tax on those clothes sales.

The reporting to HMRC means little from your perspective. Self-Assessment is exactly what is says. You decide if you are liable and file an annual return. If HMRC contact you, you may need some proof these were personal second-hand items - photographs of you wearing those items might help. 43 items sold is not excessive. I doubt HMRC will be interested other than sending you a 'nudge letter'.

Yes, thank you for telling me something I already know. V. much appreciated!

I have no doubt HMRC is not interested in me, OP or the majority of sellers on Vinted and other sites who are making less than a few grand a year selling off old clothes and other knick knacks. Since the new rules came in, have noticed that many of the professional sellers are now labelled as such on these platforms. These are the ones HMRC are interested in. For now, am happy to let Vinted continue notifying HMRC on my behalf, and if they want to take it further, they can contact me directly.

CornishTeaTime · 16/01/2025 14:50

Negroany · 16/01/2025 13:32

Self assessment is always due end of Jan, for everyone. Though there are some earlier dates for different types of submission.

End Jan this year is for tax year ending 5/4/24.

Maybe that's what you're thinking of, the reference period rather than the due date? You can do it any time after 6/4 each year, once you have all your details in.

I tend to do mine around June, as that's when I'll have for everything I need together. P60 etc.

Doubled checked with my accountant and all been done for 2023/24 so nothing to do until we have passed the 05.04.2025.

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CornishTeaTime · 16/01/2025 14:52

Georgyporky · 16/01/2025 12:10

Not sure from your post, but are you aware self-assessment tax form has to be completed by 31/01 ?

And any tax due must be paid by this date to avoid penalties.

All been done for 2023/24 so nothing to do until we have passed the 05.04.2025.
@Georgyporky

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CornishTeaTime · 16/01/2025 14:55

Mareleine · 16/01/2025 11:54

If you're self employed anyway, AFAIK you have to declare the £600-ish anyway, because the under £1000 rule is your total self employed earnings not just selling things specifically on Vinted. Just fill out the form.

Yes BUT these items werent sold for profit/work/earnings they were literally old stuff that were lurking at the back of my wardrobe, I was declutering!!!!

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Hammy19 · 16/01/2025 14:59

CornishTeaTime · 15/01/2025 13:01

Vinted has advised to report/complete a form Ive made £600 since starting with them over 65 sales.

I work part time and also do self employed work one day a week which Im registered for...do I need to declare vi ted earnings on my tax assessement in April 🤷‍♀️

Anyone done this?

No, because I won't be making any profit on the items considering what they cost me originally

CornishTeaTime · 16/01/2025 15:04

I accidentially came across this from Vinted and was shocked hence syarting this post.

I would be interested to know if anyone else has this HIDDEN REQUEST on their account and didnt know!!! Go to your Vinted account the go to...

Profile
Legal Information
HMRC Reporting

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RedRiverShore5 · 16/01/2025 15:53

So for example if I was to buy an expensive bike on eBay for £2k, ride it for a year and decide I don't want it so sell it on eBay for £1500, I would have to pay tax on the £500 over £1k, surely that can't be right. That is no different to selling clothes, it's what I have bought, used and sold for less than I paid.

spannasaurus · 16/01/2025 15:56

RedRiverShore5 · 16/01/2025 15:53

So for example if I was to buy an expensive bike on eBay for £2k, ride it for a year and decide I don't want it so sell it on eBay for £1500, I would have to pay tax on the £500 over £1k, surely that can't be right. That is no different to selling clothes, it's what I have bought, used and sold for less than I paid.

No because you didn't buy the bike to sell it so you are not trading.

Even if you were trading there would be no tax as you would claim actual costs instead of the trading allowance making a loss

prh47bridge · 16/01/2025 15:58

RedRiverShore5 · 16/01/2025 15:53

So for example if I was to buy an expensive bike on eBay for £2k, ride it for a year and decide I don't want it so sell it on eBay for £1500, I would have to pay tax on the £500 over £1k, surely that can't be right. That is no different to selling clothes, it's what I have bought, used and sold for less than I paid.

No, that is not right. You are taxed on profit, not sales. You have not made a profit so no tax to pay.

spannasaurus · 16/01/2025 16:04

HMRC aren't coming after people who sell a few items online they are trying to identify people with undeclared trading income. They want reports from online selling platforms to help identify these traders. Someone selling say 20 items over a couple of months on vinted wont be of interest but someone regularly selling large amounts on multiple platforms will be.

Thebogopogopanpacificgrandprix · 16/01/2025 16:18

spannasaurus · 16/01/2025 16:04

HMRC aren't coming after people who sell a few items online they are trying to identify people with undeclared trading income. They want reports from online selling platforms to help identify these traders. Someone selling say 20 items over a couple of months on vinted wont be of interest but someone regularly selling large amounts on multiple platforms will be.

This. They're after the drop shippers.

Talkinpeace · 16/01/2025 16:24

Ebay Me pages went away a long time ago
but I archived the content of mine 10 years ago.
Tax law has not changed since then.

Have a read of the actual rules around selling on sites like vinted and ebay
talkinpeacemepage.wordpress.com/2014/09/10/the-talkinpeace-me-page-as-it-was-before-being-evicted-by-ebay/

PizzaPowder · 16/01/2025 16:32

NewYearStillFat · 16/01/2025 11:47

I’m guessing there’s no gain anyway as you’d be selling for a fraction of their original cost?

I have wondered this. Technically you’re not making any money really. Say you buy something at £100 and sell it for £20. There’s no profit?