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Help reading old writing please!

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Theremedy · 11/01/2025 14:07

I’m doing some genealogy and am researching my 2x great grandfathers naval record.

Can anyone please decipher the highlighted word? I’m stumped! Thank you!

Help reading old writing please!
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Boffle · 11/01/2025 14:11

Since Victory II is repeated, could be attentive II as the word below?

X72 · 11/01/2025 14:11
  • HMS Attentive was the American brig Magnet captured in 1812 that the Royal Navy took into service as HMS Magnet, used as prison ship at Halifax, Nova Scotia during the War of 1812, and then renamed HMS Attentive c. 1814. Attentive served as a store ship until she was broken up in Britain in 1817.

Halifax, Nova Scotia - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax,_Nova_Scotia

Middlemarch123 · 11/01/2025 14:16

If it isn’t Attentive, then it’s another navel ship. Go on Wiki, put navel ship’s beginning with a in google. There are literally loads of them. See if any match, then you can see if the dates match. Good luck OP.

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Theremedy · 11/01/2025 14:17

I suppose it could be Attentive again, shockingly unclear though! Thanks!

I am currently going alphabetically through all the ships, this is in WW1.

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X72 · 11/01/2025 14:18
  • HMS Attentive II was the shore base for the Dover Patrol, and was established in 1914 and decommissioned 31 October 1919.

Then it is this one.

Dover Patrol - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dover_Patrol

X72 · 11/01/2025 14:23

HMS Victory II from that era would likely also be a shore base.

Theremedy · 11/01/2025 14:28

Yes, Victory 2 was a stoker training camp.

He was in the Navy as a stoker from 1890-1900 and got recalled/went back voluntarily (I don’t know which) on the outbreak of ww1 as an older man to train new recruits how to stoke!

But looks like for a few years he was working on the Dover Patrol. So interesting!

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X72 · 11/01/2025 14:38

It is all very interesting and a world away from today. He was your great-great-grandfather you say? Your family must have married young and reproduced early.

My grandfather, born 1890, took part in the Battle of the Somme shortly after being transferred to the Argyll & Southerland Highlanders. He survived until he was 80. His fours sons all fought in WW2. One was lost in the Atlantic, another in North Africa. One survived after a brief spell as a POW. The fourth came back from the Rhine. There was no 'Saving Private Ryan' story.

Theremedy · 11/01/2025 14:59

That’s fascinating, what a life your grandfather lived.

My family had the benefit of the generations straddling the wars. My 2x G.Grandfather born in 1875, my G.Grandfather in 1909, and my Grandfather in 1934. So either too young or too old to be frontline fighters. My Great grandfather was a search light operator in WW2, we are a Portsmouth based family and he would search out German bombers as they crossed the channel to bomb the docks and cities.

The mystery I am trying to solve now is how my born and bred in Portsmouth 2x g.grandfather met my London born and living 2x g.grandmother. He was based in Portsmouth when they met, she was in service in London. I wish I knew!

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X72 · 11/01/2025 15:21

Most probably a day trip from London to the coast. It happened a lot then when we had a more comprehensive train service covering many more miles. Just a guess though.

My parents lived in a small hamlet that had a train stop 3 or 4 times a day, this was just before the Beeching cuts. You could get on early morning and get anywhere 80 miles away in any direction fairly quickly by late morning. Their first neighbour was the butler and his father before him assumed that role. They always finished at 11am on Saturdays until Monday 7am. The fiction books that suggest service staff only had Mothering Sunday off are not truthful. I think in London they had more time off than some of these estates in the sticks.

Doggymummar · 11/01/2025 15:22

Alfontino II?

Boffle · 11/01/2025 15:22

I love stuff like this.
My family also straddled the wars.
There was one great grandfather who fought in the Boer War. My dad remembered he still had the uniform when dad was a child.
My maternal grandad was in the army as a conscripted driver in Egypt and Palestine from 1922 to 1925. I have his diaries from that time, there were lots of trips to hospital for dysentry!

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