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Bariatric surgery or Mounjaro- I need advise

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GingerGirl4549 · 11/01/2025 08:17

Long story- sorry 😞 this is all NHS btw.
In July 2021 following years of gynae issues I had an op to remove some very large ovarian cysts (41 at time and thinking this would then be my last chance post op to try and conceive) op didn't go to plan mainly due to my size/existing health conditions causing complications and they discovered one 12cm cyst was attached to my bowel. Upshot, need a bowel surgeon and to loose significant weight quickly before they can try again. Gynae surgeon requested bariatric surgery, took 6 months for that to go through GP etc, lots chasing on my part. Starting bariatric route early 2022, spent 8 months having various tests, meeting surgeon etc to be told due to covid backlog there was a 2 year waiting list. So I waited patiently, by January 2024 I decided to chase, it'd been 15 months with no contact at all (during this time I'd lost 2 stone through diet). So I chased, was given a phone app - i was never phoned at app time, I chased again and eventually given another phone app for March 2024 only upon having to discover was just with dietician (completely not at that point who I should be talking too, needed surgeon or doctor). Obviously I questioned delay, to be told (she was apologetic but still) that some time in the previous 15 months I had been dropped off the list due to admin issues, when pushed she cited lack of staff. I was very upset, frustrated but not the dieticians fault. She told me she'd entered me back in the system as fast track, would take around 6 months as opposed to a year plus which was current wait times (that was 8 months ago now). Had 3 apps with this dietician (so could get myself ready diet wise for surgery). Last year in prep I made significant changes to my diet as a result of this specific surgery advise and I also joined a gym. I was told that my case was being discussed and awaiting surgeon app. Between April 2024 and September I lost a further 1 1/2 stone. I'm now 45 ( and during this time have had to come to terms that all these delays to the gynae surgery i actually need means I'm running out of time - also last year i started peri menopause so the psychology aspects of all time have been drastic and devastating to me and husband) in August 2024 still no app so I chased again, told they were waiting for apps to become available. September 2024 received letter for app in December, I complained about the wait (considering it was then approaching 3 years in total) I was told I'd missed an appointment- i bloody hadn't! They said they'd sent me a text- they didn't! But they moved the app to end of October 2024. Then 2 weeks before got a letter to say unfortunately they needed to move it (ffs) and this was then January 2025 (this Thursday 16th ) I didn't have energy to complain again so thought I'd wait till now. However, since September last year and now, I started Mounjaro, mainly as I'd started loosing weight previously but very slow and as I just couldnt trust when ill get this op. I'm doing this privately as to be blunt, fed up of the waits and bureaucracy of NHS in my case. I've lost 2.5 stone on Mounjaro. So since January 2022 when first approved surgery and January 2025, I've lost 6 stone. I'm still 17 stone so very large. I now, do not want that surgery after all that, I know I can do it on mounjaro by myself but it's obviously very expensive and a struggle. I've now given up all hope of having a family. I'm scared of all the massive changes the surgery would mean. I'm scared of all the huge vast side effects associated with bariatric surgery. It's a hugely beneficial surgery but it does come with an awful lot of things to consider, for example, gall stones, hair loss, 75% of patients regain 30% of loss stuff like that, and of course it's big surgery. Apps next week, Ive said im going, but i don't think I want this surgery anymore, I think I want to stay on mounjaro. I'm a 'slow responder' and that's great, I'm don't want to loose super quick- which brings so many health issues, and is very common with the surgery. I know there are potential side effects with mounjaro, I've had very few and I'm using it as a tool. I've completely changed my relationship and association with food, diet, exercise and wellbeing over the last 12 months. I don't see it as anything but a tool. I've never been healthier or fitter. I gym 5 times a week. I was an emotional eater, I've worked very hard on controlling that with the help of mounjaro - this is something the surgery doesn't do - you can still eat slider foods and emotional eat on that.
But i can't shake 'would i be stupid not to have this op' ??
I phoned the hospital yesterday just to make sure app was going ahead, as now that whole situation just gives my so much anxiety, was told yes and if goes OK I will go on surgery wait list - so surgery would be in approx 3/4 months.
I need to decide what to do. I don't want to waste NHS resource if I don't have too, I don't want major surgery, I think I can do it with Mounjaro.
Also if I have surgery, they would make me wait 2 years for weight to stabilise before going back on gynae wait list for the surgery I actually need...all the while walking around with huge cysts inside me and by then I'll be 48, it's over and for me all I'm concerned about now is being healthy and fit.
Do I just cancel the op and go it alone or go, see what the surgeon says? Do I just right now say no, not having surgery or am I silly to consider not having it?
Sorry it's so long, please be kind, this has been an awful long stressful fight and would appreciate advice

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GingerGirl4549 · 11/01/2025 10:00

InkHeart2024 · 11/01/2025 09:38

I only know one person who has had bariatric surgery and she gained the weight back over time and is now morbidly obese but starting on WLIs. I think one day you'll look back and see this delay as a blessing. I don't mean to sound harsh but given your age and weight the chance of conceiving was low anyway even if you'd had the surgeries quickly after they diagnosed the issues. Losing the opportunity to have children is very sad but your health and life is more important. You had a significant obesity problem and that is being addressed through this wonderful medication. Focus on that.

I think you're right, I might see it as a blessing
And 100% i know I had a lot of factors meaning children might not have happened anyway. But at the very start, I was around 37. I waited some time going through the process in the first place to have the cysts removed. Then Covid happened and the op was delayed 18 months. So really, ive been on this path an awful long time. It's very stressful but I do see and agree with what you've said

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GingerGirl4549 · 11/01/2025 10:01

Bornnotbourne · 11/01/2025 09:17

One of my old colleagues is a bariatric surgeon and he’s really pleased about GLP’s. For the last 10-15 years demand has outstripped what he can supply in terms of surgery and by the time he operates patients have many complications from obesity: joint problems, heart problems, diabetes etc. He has seen patients become desperate and go to other countries for surgery which is botched and then need him to fix. He is looking forward to GLP’s being the norm and his services being available for those who are resistant (this is thought to be 1/10).

That's very interesting, although I'm not surprised tbh. Thanks for that insight though

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GingerGirl4549 · 11/01/2025 10:02

ErinAoife · 11/01/2025 09:23

Can you discuss with your gp about which option he/she thinks will be more suitable.?

Yes I could. I had a wellbeing coach through my GP practice and I did speak to her and her advice was to stick with Mounjaro

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thesaskedminger · 11/01/2025 10:04

I didn't read all your post but I just wanted to say I have seen so many baristas patients who are putting weight back in and now using GLP 1 injections. The long term success rate of surgery isn't that great.

GingerGirl4549 · 11/01/2025 10:07

SearchAndwhat · 11/01/2025 08:38

Hi
I had weight loss surgery in 2006 i was 130kg got to about 65kg, stabilised for years after DC birth at around 72-78kg and from 2020 My weight started creeping back up I'm now 106kg.
I would advise you not to get surgery and it's actually worked out in your favour all the delays.

My weight loss surgery had my gallbladder removed at the same time and I'm still suffering with side effects of my malabsorption with the shame of having regained. I have anemia and GP's are useless in refering me to infusions. My teeth suffered badly. I have so much loose skin from losing so much so fast. I develipped bulimia because I still needed the emotional aspect of food so would force my stomach then throw up.

You sre losing so much on mounjaro, the hypothetical surgery is in about 4 months then thr nhs wants 2 years weight stabilitu, i am sure you could drop the weight with monjaro on your own in that time or less. 17 st is obese obviously but look how far you have done.
Monjaro i believe also suppresses alcohol craving, when i couldnt physically eat more to numb my feelings i turned to alcohol and became an alcoholic binge drinker which affected me in other ways like losing my career. Weight loss surgery isn't necesssry if you can take weight loss injections in my humble non medical opinion.
If i could turn back time i would not had it because im constantly tired from anemia, my hair is always dry despite care and it just created new problems like hypoglacimia and dumping syndrome where i vomit and have diarrhea if i eat certain things. Even if you don't drink alcohol anyway, WLS takes reduces your ability to digest and absorb nutrients and minerals forever. This is not to be taken lightly because the tiredness, teeth and bones, hair loss and low energy levels are not a way to enjoy life.
I also feel socially you are judged more for the weight loss surgey than injections there is bigger stigma to bariatric surgery. Injections even skinny celebs take them but with weight loss surgery people get more judgmental of how big you must have got and then the scrutiny of what you eat and whether you put weight back, basically the gossip about it is awful.

In short , since your goal is health, stick to monjaro and keep monitoring your health on it. You are doing great.

Wow, just wow. Thank you so much for your response and sharing. So many aspects and things you've talked about there are the fears I have. I don't think people really understand bariatric surgery, obvs not everyone, but many people I've come across in my private life just think it's a miracle and do not get all these complications I'm worried about and you've described

I think youre right about the judgement too
Thank you so much for your kind words, I really appreciate it.
Alcohol, ive not a problem but I was a classic binge drinker. Comfort food has always been my challenge. However, since on mounjaro I've barely touched alcohol, just don't want it and when I have had some, ive not felt good after so I've cut that out completely too

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Oblomov25 · 11/01/2025 10:10

Don't get surgery. It's horrific and affects the whole family. 3 people I know have, stick with MJ. The shambles of your NHS journey is no surprise to me. I've had similar.

WidgetDigit2022 · 11/01/2025 10:14

GingerGirl4549 · 11/01/2025 10:02

Yes I could. I had a wellbeing coach through my GP practice and I did speak to her and her advice was to stick with Mounjaro

Just as an add on - wellbeing coaches employed by GP practices are not medical practitioners. So whilst they’re useful to help with motivation and setting plans and goals, they can’t help with your options. You’d be best speaking to the doctor at your consultation.

GingerGirl4549 · 11/01/2025 12:15

Oblomov25 · 11/01/2025 10:10

Don't get surgery. It's horrific and affects the whole family. 3 people I know have, stick with MJ. The shambles of your NHS journey is no surprise to me. I've had similar.

I'll admit, the effect it would have on my husband and our lives together has played on my mind a lot. I am going to stick with the MJ

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GingerGirl4549 · 11/01/2025 12:16

WidgetDigit2022 · 11/01/2025 10:14

Just as an add on - wellbeing coaches employed by GP practices are not medical practitioners. So whilst they’re useful to help with motivation and setting plans and goals, they can’t help with your options. You’d be best speaking to the doctor at your consultation.

Oh yes 100% I know, I will talk to my GP too

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