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The fires in California

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herpastcanchangethefuture · 09/01/2025 07:32

Is anyone else watching in disbelief? It just so awful to see so many people lose their home and I keep thinking about all the animals who would have been terrified and trapped too. I was watching the news on it last night and people were saying their insurance companies had recently revoked their insurance so they won’t be covered.

It’s just awful.

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Christwosheds · 09/01/2025 12:41

The richest people might have the means to bounce back more easily but the trauma of losing everything in a fire is terrible for anyone. I suppose if it is only one home among several that you own it is less upsetting but still frightening. I feel for anyone caught up in this and for all the wildlife and pets, for the people who are now homeless with everything they own gone- a horrific situation.

Moreinheavenandearth · 09/01/2025 12:42

chocolatespreadsandwich · 09/01/2025 12:07

The reason the fire started may not have been

But the reason the fire spread so rapidly absolutely is due to climate change. Noone is disputing that.

Fires have always started and always will, it is how rapidly they spread out of control that is changing.

Why does climate change accelerate the fire spreading?

chocolatespreadsandwich · 09/01/2025 12:43

Moreinheavenandearth · 09/01/2025 12:42

Why does climate change accelerate the fire spreading?

A drier winter. Stronger winds. It's all in the news reports.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 09/01/2025 12:46

Moreinheavenandearth · 09/01/2025 12:39

Why is it @okydokethen that you are so disappointed in your life that you dismiss the suffering of fellow humans ? What a horrible response to a tragedy

I think some posters reaction is because they are miserable in their little lives. When they see someone who is more successful go through something horrible, then that makes them happy, because, for once they, the miserable little person are now the one that is better off.

Moreinheavenandearth · 09/01/2025 12:46

Has it been a drier winter @chocolatespreadsandwich ? Or a wetter winter @ThoroughlyModernNotMillie ?
sorry if my questions are thick. I can’t figure out what’s happening!

petermaddog · 09/01/2025 12:49

at least 5 fires/some inland too
www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/01/08/how-did-california-wildfire-start/77540659007/

chocolatespreadsandwich · 09/01/2025 12:49

Moreinheavenandearth · 09/01/2025 12:46

Has it been a drier winter @chocolatespreadsandwich ? Or a wetter winter @ThoroughlyModernNotMillie ?
sorry if my questions are thick. I can’t figure out what’s happening!

Wetter summer (growing season) followed by a drier winter. I don't think it's that hard to follow.

midgetastic · 09/01/2025 12:49

I think the LA area has been dry ( I could of course double check )

midgetastic · 09/01/2025 12:50

So lots of growth and then it's dried out well

RingoJuice · 09/01/2025 12:50

okydokethen · 09/01/2025 11:11

The clip of a man begging for his cat to be rescued made me cry.
I don't really feel anything for the multi million dollar pads burning.

Awful.

user22446688 · 09/01/2025 12:52

lljkk · 09/01/2025 08:33

Meh. These specific fires now are happening to people who have high net wealth mostly, and they knew they had high net wealth living in those areas. They'll be ok. My aunt lives in Santa Monica & is posting a lot about the air quality being bad; this is a recurring fire-season issue in SoCal anyway. Not nice, but they have experienced the fire skies lots in last 30+ years.

My cousin got burned out of her home & fled (no formal alarm system, 20 minutes notice) with 4 other family members (including her 80+ yr old mother) as part of Tubbs fire in 2017. Losing everything changed a lot of their life planning and they are ok, better even, with many fewer resources to draw upon than the rich people affected now. Cousin was lucky to have renter's insurance. I wasn't in UK then but I bet there wasn't half as many foreign news reports because rich famous people weren't affected. I can't find interest in what happens to rich or famous people.

Californians have known for 50 years that we were badly managing envt in ways that increased the fire risks & people just shrugged.

As well as being revoltingly unempathetic, you seem to be ridiculously uninformed if you believe the majority of people losing their homes (and potentially livelihoods) in one of the most densely populated areas of the US, are high net worth. This area is full of normal, barely middle class homes packed tightly together on small lots. The cost and devastation of thousands and thousands of ordinary people, many of whom are just scraping by, is going to be absolutely astronomical. And that's without getting into the logistics of housing all these people, disrupted schooling, and the health costs of all the smoke and chemicals currently being inhaled.

I don't think I've ever said this before, because ordinarily I hate the phrase, but give your head a giant fucking wobble.

chocolatespreadsandwich · 09/01/2025 12:54

Hopefully this will help you @Moreinheavenandearth but there are plenty more articles you can seek out if you are still finding it confusing time.com/7205622/california-wildfires-climate-change-conditions/

BeAzureAnt · 09/01/2025 12:55

My cousin in LA is now evacuated. A friend of mine lost their home in Altadena, and they are staying with another friend...who may have to evacuate soon. He told me it is apocalyptic...winds were near 100 miles per hour yesterday. I went there in 2017 in October...temps were 105 F during the day...normally they never reached 85 that time of year. It was brutal on homeless people. Climate change, and so many people are going to suffer.

BeAzureAnt · 09/01/2025 12:58

lljkk · 09/01/2025 08:33

Meh. These specific fires now are happening to people who have high net wealth mostly, and they knew they had high net wealth living in those areas. They'll be ok. My aunt lives in Santa Monica & is posting a lot about the air quality being bad; this is a recurring fire-season issue in SoCal anyway. Not nice, but they have experienced the fire skies lots in last 30+ years.

My cousin got burned out of her home & fled (no formal alarm system, 20 minutes notice) with 4 other family members (including her 80+ yr old mother) as part of Tubbs fire in 2017. Losing everything changed a lot of their life planning and they are ok, better even, with many fewer resources to draw upon than the rich people affected now. Cousin was lucky to have renter's insurance. I wasn't in UK then but I bet there wasn't half as many foreign news reports because rich famous people weren't affected. I can't find interest in what happens to rich or famous people.

Californians have known for 50 years that we were badly managing envt in ways that increased the fire risks & people just shrugged.

My friend who lost his home in Altadena is 70...lifetime of memories there. There are a lot of homeless in Pasadena, South Pasadena and LA...they had it hard before in the increasing temps. Next week the Santa Ana winds are picking up again, and the fire could spread again.

It isn't just rich people being affected.

BeAzureAnt · 09/01/2025 12:59

chocolatespreadsandwich · 09/01/2025 12:58

Thoughts with everyone.
And a reminder we can all do a bit to reduce the climate change trajectory by reducing how much we buy and consume

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jan/09/los-angeles-wildfires-climate-disasters

Thank you for this excellent post and reminder.

"The 2020 and 2021 hurricane seasons saw a combined seven major hurricanes affect Louisiana and the broader central Gulf coast, sometimes just weeks apart. A similar hurricane swarm happened last year in Florida. In 2023, wildfires burned an area of Canada more than double the previous record, sending plumes of smoke across the continent and raising public health concerns for tens of millions of people downwind.
In the weeks and months ahead, when the rainy season resumes and the next atmospheric river arrives, Los Angeles will be at an elevated risk for catastrophic flooding in the burn scars of the Palisades and Eaton fires, again compounding the disaster for local residents."

petermaddog · 09/01/2025 13:00

user2244thank you i am disabled and cannot

write anymore after living thru6 hurricanes and 4 forest fire this is awful. i was s&r we spent weeks trying to help
went to other states to help.when needed others came to help us,fl,cali,n.m.and texas,

BeAzureAnt · 09/01/2025 13:02

midgetastic · 09/01/2025 12:49

I think the LA area has been dry ( I could of course double check )

It is. They had the past two winters rain, which made the brush vegetation grow, and then a dry spell, so lots of kindling for the fire and then the Santa Ana winds. A big reason the Getty Museum was saved is because they had gotten rid of the brush around the building beforehand.

peppermintgreengrass · 09/01/2025 13:05

candlerhyme · 09/01/2025 11:12

Why would you choose to live somewhere uninsurable? Especially somewhere like California, where presumably there are huge areas that are insurable. That's what my small British mind can't comprehend. It seems mad.

They already lived there and perhaps couldn’t sell.

Some of the posts on this thread are disgusting. As if money and fame mean you can’t be traumatised by a house fire.

lynnepartridge · 09/01/2025 13:09

Horrendous to watch unfold, feel awful for everyone there.

chocolatespreadsandwich · 09/01/2025 13:10

peppermintgreengrass · 09/01/2025 13:05

They already lived there and perhaps couldn’t sell.

Some of the posts on this thread are disgusting. As if money and fame mean you can’t be traumatised by a house fire.

Agree, wealthy people and famous people are still just rich people. And in any neighborhood, even a very wealthy one, you will get a whole mix of people

lynnepartridge · 09/01/2025 13:11

Wow just read back through, so not everyone values all life involved, absolutely disgusting mentality.

lynnepartridge · 09/01/2025 13:12

Christwosheds · 09/01/2025 12:41

The richest people might have the means to bounce back more easily but the trauma of losing everything in a fire is terrible for anyone. I suppose if it is only one home among several that you own it is less upsetting but still frightening. I feel for anyone caught up in this and for all the wildlife and pets, for the people who are now homeless with everything they own gone- a horrific situation.

Why does it even matter, it's scary and horrible to be a victim of fire, being rich doesn't make you unhuman suddenly. This thread is horrible.

MagentaRocks · 09/01/2025 13:14

I knew there would be some who had no sympathy for the celebrities/rich people. It’s disgusting. People have lost their homes, their memories, their safe space. It doesn’t matter whether you are rich or not. Of course those with money will have an easier time repairing, finding somewhere to stay but they are allowed to be devastated by what has happened.

James Woods was visibly upset. He told a story of a 7 year old I think coming out with a money box to help re build. People are people and this is a lot for anyone to deal with.