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How medical advice differs in other countries. (Lighthearted but perplexing)

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KnopkaPixie · 23/12/2024 13:16

The other day I was behind a woman in the queue at a pharmacy here in France. She had oral thrush. The pharmacist took quite a while talking to her about her treatment and the various medications she'd been given by the doctor then went into the general advice section of the lecture. The most important thing was not to eat, "Trop salé." (Too salty.)

I thought, "Pardon?" Surely it's the other way around, nothing too sugary and yeasty? It bothered me so I googled and sure enough at least in the English results - sugary and yeasty were to be avoided.

This happens all the time. I've heard an awful lot of strange medical advice in France over the years and the folk remedies of my Russian ex boyfriend for various illnesses were quite bizarre too. Putting your head over the boiling potato water to cure a cold because the vitamin c evaporated into the steam was a good one.

Have you ever been given strange medical advice abroad?

This thread is kind of inspired by the post about the Germans opening their windows all the time for "Luften"

On the other hand, if you're not a Brit, what are our bizarre medical beliefs/practices?

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PinkSparklyPussyCat · 24/12/2024 16:19

MerryMaker · 23/12/2024 15:15

What is the point of testing to see what particular virus you have? GPs say a virus because it will be. Antibiotics do not work on viruses and most viruses are self limiting for otherwise healthy people i.e. rest and you will get better by yourself. There is zero point spending money to test and tell you what kind of virus you have, as it does not change the treatment.

It's a bastard for travel insurance if you don't know what the 'virus' is. I saw the doctor earlier this year and they put 'respiratory virus' on my notes. Travel insurance doesn't recognise that so I have an undiagnosed condition. I was ill while we were away with a similar issues (this time diagnosed as bronchitis) so I need to see whether it'll be covered or they'll try and claim they are linked

KnopkaPixie · 24/12/2024 17:47

Drinking orange juice keeps you awake. Especially keeps children awake. (French wisdom.)

So don't let your children have a tangerine tonight.

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Prrrerr · 24/12/2024 19:13

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 24/12/2024 16:19

It's a bastard for travel insurance if you don't know what the 'virus' is. I saw the doctor earlier this year and they put 'respiratory virus' on my notes. Travel insurance doesn't recognise that so I have an undiagnosed condition. I was ill while we were away with a similar issues (this time diagnosed as bronchitis) so I need to see whether it'll be covered or they'll try and claim they are linked

I’d rather have respiratory virus on my notes than chronic bronchitis, which is effectively COPD so will put you in a different risk profile for insurance purposes.

Whynotletsgo · 24/12/2024 19:49
  1. advise from a paed/ neonatologist : Dark Guinness beer actually boosts breast milk supply due to high iron content - I tried it when trying to bf DD and I was shocked it worked.

  2. greek coffee powder and lemon juice combined as a thick paste is equivalent to imodium - again shocked that it worked.

Will try to remember more of those 😆

YDBear · 24/12/2024 19:52

Ohnonotmeagain · 23/12/2024 15:06

But chicken pox is a virus?

it’s developed to avoid the demand for unnecessary antibiotics.

in medical language “it’s a virus” translates directly to “no, you don’t need antibiotics”.

The UK’s stinginess with antibiotics is probably a good thing, to stop the buildup of resistance. In Taiwan, on the other hand, no visit to a doctor for any reason seems to end without the doling out of two or three kinds of briars spectrum antibiotics and a couple of vitamin boosters. (Indeed when I was younger, I never went to the doctor at all by if there was anything wrong with me I just went to the local pharmacy and bought tetracycline over the counter, as you could in those days) You get the impression that the doctor isn’t sure what’s wrong but if it’s an infection, by golly he’s going to zap it. This is probably unfair to the Taiwan healthcare system which is in general vastly superior to the NHS but they do love to handout antibiotics.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 24/12/2024 20:42

Prrrerr · 24/12/2024 19:13

I’d rather have respiratory virus on my notes than chronic bronchitis, which is effectively COPD so will put you in a different risk profile for insurance purposes.

Chronic bronchitis? I was diagnosed with acute bronchitis, not chronic.

YourGladSquid · 24/12/2024 20:56

KnopkaPixie · 24/12/2024 17:47

Drinking orange juice keeps you awake. Especially keeps children awake. (French wisdom.)

So don't let your children have a tangerine tonight.

I wonder if this is why in Portugal we say you shouldn’t eat oranges at nighttime (although we go the extra mile and say it kills you)

Madsciencecovid2020 · 24/12/2024 21:07

In France they do not treat tonsillitis!! Yay that was a bloody amazing summer holiday with a 18 imonth old who developed rampant tonsillitis on route to our campsite!!. We had 3 days of hell with temp etc before we asked for medical help!!
OMG we arrived at the hospital to be checked over and they said yes it's tonsillitis and we don't treat it good luck and have a nice holiday. Our son couldn't even keep milk down!! The best bit we got billed 30€ for the privilege of their care !!!

Tryonemoretime · 24/12/2024 21:39

MerryMaker · 23/12/2024 15:00

Instant coffee works for cold sores as well.

Instant coffee powder pressed on or diluted with water and spread on?

MerryMaker · 24/12/2024 21:49

Tryonemoretime · 24/12/2024 21:39

Instant coffee powder pressed on or diluted with water and spread on?

Little bit of water and spread it on.

Abra1t · 24/12/2024 22:18

Madsciencecovid2020 · 24/12/2024 21:07

In France they do not treat tonsillitis!! Yay that was a bloody amazing summer holiday with a 18 imonth old who developed rampant tonsillitis on route to our campsite!!. We had 3 days of hell with temp etc before we asked for medical help!!
OMG we arrived at the hospital to be checked over and they said yes it's tonsillitis and we don't treat it good luck and have a nice holiday. Our son couldn't even keep milk down!! The best bit we got billed 30€ for the privilege of their care !!!

In Britain it’s a fight to have it treated. We finally paid to have my son’s removed, as his AS levels were ruined and his A levels approached.

Starbubble · 24/12/2024 22:58

Same, nearly every one speak to lately seems to be taking HRT, not had anyone being pushy either but I am quite surprised by the amount of friends who are taking it.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 24/12/2024 23:08

Dahliasrule · 23/12/2024 16:12

I once had a knee injury whilst in Spain. The consultant there was willing to operate but I needed to get home. He prescribed complete and total bed rest so much so that I had to have an anti coagulant injected into my stomach every day. (The consultant was particularly up on sports injuries (I did mine while walking down a step! ) and had treated several Tour de France riders etc.
On my return home, the UK doctor prescribed the extreme opposite: exercises and to keep moving. That seemed to cure it! I am pleased I didn’t go for the op.

Maybe the initial bedrest helped the acute injury to heal and then the movement helped get the flexibility back?

fivebyfivebuffy · 24/12/2024 23:38

Madsciencecovid2020 · 24/12/2024 21:07

In France they do not treat tonsillitis!! Yay that was a bloody amazing summer holiday with a 18 imonth old who developed rampant tonsillitis on route to our campsite!!. We had 3 days of hell with temp etc before we asked for medical help!!
OMG we arrived at the hospital to be checked over and they said yes it's tonsillitis and we don't treat it good luck and have a nice holiday. Our son couldn't even keep milk down!! The best bit we got billed 30€ for the privilege of their care !!!

I was so unwell with tonsillitis once that my dad drove me to OOH. Came on really suddenly with such a high temp I didn't feel safe to drive
The doctor said "what makes you think it's bacterial?"
Opened my mouth, he went "oh.. um. Yes" and practically threw antibiotics at me Grin
I've never had viral tonsillitis

CurlyhairedAssassin · 24/12/2024 23:41

Precipice · 23/12/2024 18:14

The thing that most surprises me though is how very vague and not-detailed a lot of UK medical advice is. When I want to look up something, I look on Polish sites, because the English ones, including the NHS websites are written as though for small children. This is apparently for accessibility and for ESL patients, but at the cost of not conveying much information. Perhaps they could do a simplified and a more detailed version. I find this also face-to-face and find that medical staff often have to be pressed to give me my results or provide information about what they 're up to. I've had ultrasounds in Poland and they provided me with commentary; here they prefer to be just silent.

Oh I agree. The NHS sites are for simpletons. They are properly dumbed down. I never bother with them, they're so patronising.

Saschka · 24/12/2024 23:48

KnopkaPixie · 23/12/2024 13:47

Oh, so it's just herbal tea for babies.

DS went to a German Kita (nursery) and I was horrified at first to discover they were all given tea with their afternoon snacks. Of course I was imagining builder’s tea, and what they were actually getting was glorified hot squash Grin

(German fruit teas are actually very nice, much fuller-bodied than English fruit teas, and I stock up when we are over there).

Saschka · 24/12/2024 23:52

Whynotletsgo · 24/12/2024 19:49

  1. advise from a paed/ neonatologist : Dark Guinness beer actually boosts breast milk supply due to high iron content - I tried it when trying to bf DD and I was shocked it worked.

  2. greek coffee powder and lemon juice combined as a thick paste is equivalent to imodium - again shocked that it worked.

Will try to remember more of those 😆

Edited

They used to hand out non-optional Guinness on the postnatal ward back in the UK in the 70s to boost your iron levels. DM hated it and used to palm it off on DF when the midwives weren’t looking.

Succumb · 24/12/2024 23:59

BlueSilverCats · 23/12/2024 14:22

Lower fever with vinegar socks.

A poultice of grated potato and medicinal alcohol in a sock /fabric to put on your neck for sore throats.

Grin

Which country is this?

margegunderson · 25/12/2024 01:15

There was (dunno if still in print) a great book about this called Medicine and Culture by Lynn Payer. From memory what's taught in medical school and illnesses treated in different countries can vary enormously.

AuxArmesCitoyens · 25/12/2024 06:26

CurlyhairedAssassin · 24/12/2024 23:41

Oh I agree. The NHS sites are for simpletons. They are properly dumbed down. I never bother with them, they're so patronising.

Something like 20 percent of the population is functionally illiterate so they have to be kept simple.

sashh · 25/12/2024 07:24

Crikeyalmighty · 23/12/2024 18:01

When I go to US I always buy some Advil - god knows what's in it but it works a treat !

Ibuprofen. It's a brand name for it.

Freysimo · 25/12/2024 07:34

sonjadog · 23/12/2024 15:35

I was back in the UK at a school reunion a couple of years ago and every woman there was on HRT (we are late 40s). They were shocked I wasn’t. I began to wonder if I was missing out on something obvious, so when I got back to my home country I asked my friends here, who are the same age, if they were on it. No-one is or is considering it. I find it strange because surely women’s bodies are the same everywhere…

It's the Davina effect. We tend to medicalise the menopause in the UK.

ALunchbox · 25/12/2024 07:39

What a fascinating thread. I have always found France to over medicate and for people to go to the doctor's at the drop of a hat. GPs there in my experience could be quite blunt too.

I prefer the UK in this respect.

AgileGreenSeal · 25/12/2024 07:53

HPandthelastwish · 23/12/2024 15:06

Genuine question - How? drinking it, making a paste and applying it?

DD is regularly plagued with the buggers and instant coffee is cheaper than zovirax which never seems to do much.

I'm a firm believer that most bat shit home remedies have some core of truth in them even if the delivery is suspect.

On a serious note if shes suffering from chronic cold sore outbreaks she could get Aciclovir 400mg tablets on prescriptuon as a prophylaxis. Works very well and much better than suffering the sores.

AgileGreenSeal · 25/12/2024 07:56

Saschka · 24/12/2024 23:52

They used to hand out non-optional Guinness on the postnatal ward back in the UK in the 70s to boost your iron levels. DM hated it and used to palm it off on DF when the midwives weren’t looking.

My granny was prescribed a bottle of stout a day by her doctor. She had to buy it of course. Circe 1930s.