M&S Shit like this….

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Is not helping women. Men aren’t helpless. If you’ve not bought a single present for your loved ones by Xmas Eve you’re an arsehole not a ‘loveable rogue.’ And if you then turn to your daughter expecting her to solve it….well then you’re a cunt. Women’s work eh.

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Hard agree

It’s just so tone deaf considering how many women are dealing with shit men in their lives at this time of year. Completely enabling

Ha ha ha, those silly little men, aren't they just a hoot. Arf arf! 😆

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Couldn't agree more

Do women needs shops to teach then how to navigate relationships surely they can think for themselves?

If they can then why on earth does it matter?

@Edingril i don’t understand your point. I doubt most women need shops to think for themselves no, but how does that relate to the point I’m making?

For clarity, that point is that weaponised male incompetence and ‘women as saviours’ is not a message a high street UK business should be promoting or lauding.

Just awful. Outdated, sexist nonsense.

I heard this twice at DD’s nativity this week

From one class jm ”DH is just the same he just turns up when he’s told, he doesn’t have a clue what’s going on”

and another saying ti her DH

”don’t forget to leave early to be back in time”

Her Dh replied Yes all sorted.

she said to her friend as he was leaving “he’ll definitely forget”

I was with DH and said why is it ok and normalised that men aren’t partners.

we both work full time in demanding roles that spillover into home life and maybe they have different home set ups but this presentation of “clueless men” being the Norm and accepted is utter nonsense.

My DH will happily let others take the load if they are willing but we established early on that wouldn’t make for a happy home.

Exactly this. This type of behaviour would not be accepted in my relationship. (For me or my partner) Expectations of partnership was clear from the get go. Sure sometimes I do more if he is busy at work, and vice versa,

I can only assume that woman who roll their eyes at how little their partners do, don’t mind really and get a sense of being indispensable because they do everything. Fine. But wouldn’t work for me.

Why are M&S indulging this nonsense? We left the 1970s a long time. Assuming they have the resources (money, cognitive skills) adult human beings either care enough about their loved ones to hit the shops, online or off, or they don't.

https://www.asa.org.uk/make-a-complaint.html

You're not wrong to think it belongs in the 1950s.

https://www.asa.org.uk/news/ban-on-harmful-gender-stereotypes-in-ads-comes-into-force.html

and

https://www.asa.org.uk/advice-online/harm-and-offence-gender-stereotypes.html

may be useful when formulating a complaint.

Which is all well and fine until children come along. I've known several women who were absolutely stunned when they had children that their hapless husband (that they had doted and coddled previously) remained hapless when children arrived... The words; I'm not your mother being deployed. The problem with this previous generosity from these wives to their husbands is that the husband thinks it's normal and to be expected and become resentful that the baby is pushing them out.

Don't get me wrong they should have reciprocated the care originally but if someone wants to smooth your path, a lot of people will accept that. I think it's why when people start threads about husbands not pulling their weight as a parent, one of the first questions is, well was he selfish before you got married and had children?

As a single woman I won't accept this haplessness but unfortunately that seems to make me quite unappealing as many men want a nurturing mother type only to be disappointed as above when they get put into second place by the arrival of children.

Ridiculous link, utter spam

My partner was like this in the beginning because it was how his mum had treated the males in the family - managing all their time and telling them when to get ready, when to leave for things, so they never learned how to be on time for things themselves, organise presents/cards, manage shopping, etc.

It was the hardest thing to train him on. He's an absolute angel in other ways - has never left the toilet seat up or aimed badly in his life, he's a brilliant cook and cooks dinner every day, and he's good at doing his given tasks without being reminded - taking the rubbish and recycling out, fixing things around the house, organising tradesmen, doing his own laundry etc. But he had to be reminded about 3 times to buy his side of the family's presents, and he was a "buy something from the off licence at 11pm Christmas Eve" type.

That’s a very good point. In my relationship we do have two children and the spread of extra work did feel like it was going to be a natural part of that unless I proactively made clear we needed to both work equally.

’m sure you don’t need my view on your situation but I think you are doing the right thing in holding out for the non hapless 😂

This..100%....😊