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Signing group card without having contributed?

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CoIIection · 13/12/2024 14:59

Just wanted a quick idea please of what to do when you're in charge of the end of term teacher's collection for your class, contributions from other parents are in, for those not doing their own thing, and someone has asked to sign from their child but hasn't , i don't think, contributed. I have no idea if they are hard up, my query is whether I should check that they think they have contributed, I don't think they did, but now I am worried I have forgotten (some have given me cash at the school gate. I thought I'd kept track of the amount but have peri brain fog!).

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Spirallingdownwards · 13/12/2024 20:51

CoIIection · 13/12/2024 18:12

Not being petty re signing from non-donors, but some people are probably doing their own gifts, so seems odd to sign from them as well, but ok, I'll just sign from everyone. I had no idea about the etiquette on this.

No - sign from those who donated. Its very unfair on those who have donated to let others take the credit and it looks as though they donated less. Those asking to sign who haven't donated you simply say the deadline for donations is x so if you donate by the deadline your name will be included.

CoIIection · 13/12/2024 21:00

CandyCane457 · 13/12/2024 20:45

Me neither- those that ask must be so cheeky!
You’ve done a good feel by doing the collection, the teacher will be really grateful 😊

I agree, but anyway.
Yes, the teachers/TAs will be happy.

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CoIIection · 13/12/2024 21:01

Spirallingdownwards · 13/12/2024 20:51

No - sign from those who donated. Its very unfair on those who have donated to let others take the credit and it looks as though they donated less. Those asking to sign who haven't donated you simply say the deadline for donations is x so if you donate by the deadline your name will be included.

Edited

These were my feelings, but the first posters responding said otherwise.

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Iwishiwasagiraffe · 13/12/2024 21:03

I’d just reply ‘yes no worries, I’ll make sure everyone who’s contributed has their name signed. I’m happy to sign for you if easier. I’ll still be collecting until weds if anyone else wants to contribute

CoIIection · 13/12/2024 21:06

Iwishiwasagiraffe · 13/12/2024 21:03

I’d just reply ‘yes no worries, I’ll make sure everyone who’s contributed has their name signed. I’m happy to sign for you if easier. I’ll still be collecting until weds if anyone else wants to contribute

I am scared of looking like the arsehole if I do that, according to earlier posters!

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HRTQueen · 13/12/2024 21:10

Just let them sign

anyone who cares who contributed and who didn’t is a knob

CoIIection · 13/12/2024 21:15

HRTQueen · 13/12/2024 21:10

Just let them sign

anyone who cares who contributed and who didn’t is a knob

Conversely, is it not knobbish to take credit for a gift you didn't buy?

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Doggymummar · 13/12/2024 21:18

You don't sign from individuals it's just Merry Christmas miss Teacher, with love from year #6 or whatever

HRTQueen · 13/12/2024 21:21

I don’t think most people care that much to think they are such piss takers

this discussion would always come up on WhatsApp then talk of children not being able to sign a card 🙄 it was the usual playground gossips who would get snippy the rest of us just didn’t care, the gossipy pettiness is far more knobbish

caringcarer · 13/12/2024 21:22

Houseplanter · 13/12/2024 15:04

I really couldn't be bothered to keep a tally of who's paid and who's signed.

This. Does it really matter if they have contributed or not? They want to sign the card.

Onekidnoclue · 13/12/2024 21:24

I think this is why you use gift round! You can sign without donating and nobody knows. I hate the idea of shaming people who haven’t chipped in. What’s the minimum to buy a signature on the card £1? £10? I’m very fortunate financially and try to put in more than the standard amount to cover for other people in tighter spots. Sign from the class and next time use gift round!!! Or say no when you’re asked as there’s always some drama!!!

TeachesOfPeaches · 13/12/2024 21:34

The children are writing their name in the card or you are? Just put from Class whatever it is

LoveBluey · 13/12/2024 21:42

Our class collection lists the individual names of those who contributed but I'd be more than happy if they just said it was from the whole class.
I know there are a few who didn't join in (for whatever reason) but they still got almost 300 which is plenty and I wouldn't want any child to be excluded. I'd also not expect the teacher / TAs to pour over the list looking for who is missing.

CoIIection · 13/12/2024 22:32

Onekidnoclue · 13/12/2024 21:24

I think this is why you use gift round! You can sign without donating and nobody knows. I hate the idea of shaming people who haven’t chipped in. What’s the minimum to buy a signature on the card £1? £10? I’m very fortunate financially and try to put in more than the standard amount to cover for other people in tighter spots. Sign from the class and next time use gift round!!! Or say no when you’re asked as there’s always some drama!!!

Never heard of gift round. I did ask the previous PTAs for pointers, they said just collect it in cash/to my own bank, or Paypal, then divvy it up between Teachers and TAs.

I absolutely don't want to shame any kids, they are young anyway and won't care themselves, I am sure! Just also wanted to do the right thing by those who have put in, you know?

initial consensus on here seemed to just have everyone sign, regardless. Now I am getting a few responses saying it's not fair on those who have put in. So there's no obvious answer.

I have already signed for everyone who has asked me to now, whether they contributed or not. No idea what the right thing is.

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CoIIection · 13/12/2024 22:33

TeachesOfPeaches · 13/12/2024 21:34

The children are writing their name in the card or you are? Just put from Class whatever it is

I did. And I've done most of them now, Of a class of 30, about 25 have put in. I assume some may want to just do their own gifts, I don't really know.

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User56785 · 14/12/2024 00:12

TeachesOfPeaches · 13/12/2024 21:34

The children are writing their name in the card or you are? Just put from Class whatever it is

Yes. You writing the names in seems a bit pointless really.

What is the point? Is it to show the teacher some appreciation or is it to show her who has contributed to this class present?

NewName24 · 14/12/2024 00:28

I've never contributed to 'a class present'
Fortunately, when my dc were at school this wasn't a thing.

However, people can surely wish someone has a lovely Christmas, without giving them a present?

I mean, wouldn't the card just say "best wishes from Class 2B" or whatever? You can't seriously have the time to go round the parents on the list of people who have contributed, asking them all to sign it personally ? Confused

GodotIsntComing · 14/12/2024 00:50

I used to organise class collections. I did a card signed by everyone who wanted to sign and a voucher with a card which listed those who contributed.

SaulHudsonDavidJones · 14/12/2024 01:08

CandyCane457 · 13/12/2024 19:26

If I was in charge, I wouldn’t let anyone sign it if they haven’t paid. The card should be signed by the people who the gift is FROM and I think it’s so cheeky if people want their name on it when they haven’t contributed.

Technically yes, but times are tough and people are struggling. Maybe they can't afford it but don't want their child to miss out or be negatively regarded. It costs you nothing to add their name but it might mean a lot to them.

SomethingUniqueThisTime · 14/12/2024 01:16

CoIIection · 13/12/2024 20:40

There is a WA group chat, I have already bumped it saying deadline for bank transfer is tonight, and anyone can sign the card on Monday or Tuesday, then I'm getting the gifts and will be done, and it's prompted people to just ask to have their names added, and no payment. Oh well

This is where you probably went wrong, by saying ‘and anyone can sign the card’. Those who haven’t contributed presumed you were permitting them to sign too! CFs.

Not much you can do now - just make sure you don’t get lumbered next time.

winter8090 · 14/12/2024 06:53

Definitely sign form the class.

Otherwise it feels to me of being a show of who did and did not contribute.

Blondeshavemorefun · 14/12/2024 08:00

Tricky. You don't want a parent /child to feel excluded if can't afford it

Equally wrong to take credit for a present if Havnt contributed

Your issue is also you arent sure who paid as you said some did cash

If doing a class gift whether volunteered or chosen - you Need to be on the ball with who had given you money and if cash write it down.

Puppypower83 · 14/12/2024 08:35

Most of our classes have always done it that the card is from all the children and the gift contribution is just given with the card but not specified. So everyone's kid has coloured in a little picture or something which is added to a big card from the whole class.
I've always contributed, but couldn't care if other people haven't for whatever reason. Some cannot afford, some get their own present, some forget. Who cares. I can't imagine any teacher sifting through names and checking.
Its a nice gesture, not a thing to separate people out over.

MILLYmo0se · 14/12/2024 08:38

You are writing out 20+ names? Just put from class 2b or whoever they are

Divebar2021 · 14/12/2024 08:41

Personally you should list the amounts that everyone contributed and maybe write their names in larger letters so the teacher can really see who contributed what.
( let it go… it’s a Christmas card. Remember what this is supposed to be about)