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Utterly despairing with 14 yo behaviour and attitude

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MoSalahsBeard · 10/12/2024 12:59

Help!

my 14 yo has always been explosive and moody but these days the situation is so stressful that myself and dh are struggling to cope. He’s got terrible attitude about schoolwork, can’t be bothered at all- even to write neatly. Is rude and belligerent to us. He is getting in trouble at school for being late to class and even answered back to a teacher last week and got sent out. We are despairing. The amount of talks we have had with him and number of times we have taken his phone away etc- I don’t know what to do anymore.

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TheSecondMrsCampbellBlack · 10/12/2024 13:01

Find out what is going on with him. Is he being bullied? Is something going on with his friends? Be kind and ask, I bet there's something. Teenagers are hard!

MoSalahsBeard · 10/12/2024 13:10

I’ve asked him. It’s hard to gauge. He seems eager to fit in with the ‘cool’ kids- the ones who are often douches and get in trouble.

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NovemberMorn · 10/12/2024 13:12

Been there and it's hell at the time.
Talking to him is the most important step...not always easy I know.
Who is he hanging around with, I think the friends they keep at that age has an awful lot to do with the way they act.
The bullying aspect has to be taken into consideration too.
If he has suddenly started misbehaving in school, make an appointment, see if they have noticed anything happening.

On a lighter note, most times these things pass, it'll just be a lad dealing with life's changes.

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OhBling · 10/12/2024 13:24

It's really difficult and I don't think there's a one-size-fits-all approach.

When we were going through the various assessment processes for DS, I was interested to see that in all the questionairres I was asked some version of, "what are his strengths?" or "what do you love about him" and I think that was actually a very useful exercise. it reminded me of his strengths and good points, and I realised after it also gave me a starting point for positive reinforcement with him - working these things in to conversation or paying attention and praising him for them etc. Really importantbecause he was getting so much negative feedback all the time.

If there are things he wants to do/ friends he wants, are there more healthy ways you can support this? Eg joining up to a club that is "cool" or even just buying that one ridiculous branded item. I'm not talking about going crazy, but showing some support, but in a way that's not destructive and unpleasant?

If he has things in his life that ARE good and where he has previous good relationships with adults in those, can you encourage more of those and/or speak to those adults and ask them to intervene? We got DS' sports coach to have a word with him - he was getting really negative and iffy about his sport, not wanting to turn up etc. A lot of it came down to lack of self confidence and a chat with his coach really helped.

Let go of as many of the smaller things as you can. That doesn't mean putting up wth really shittybehaviour, but I think that sometimes you do have to let some minor elements go.

What incentives are in place for positives? We've had short quick incentives for, for example, not getting codes at school for a week, with bigger incentives for more long term positive behaviours.

MoSalahsBeard · 10/12/2024 14:05

OhBling · 10/12/2024 13:24

It's really difficult and I don't think there's a one-size-fits-all approach.

When we were going through the various assessment processes for DS, I was interested to see that in all the questionairres I was asked some version of, "what are his strengths?" or "what do you love about him" and I think that was actually a very useful exercise. it reminded me of his strengths and good points, and I realised after it also gave me a starting point for positive reinforcement with him - working these things in to conversation or paying attention and praising him for them etc. Really importantbecause he was getting so much negative feedback all the time.

If there are things he wants to do/ friends he wants, are there more healthy ways you can support this? Eg joining up to a club that is "cool" or even just buying that one ridiculous branded item. I'm not talking about going crazy, but showing some support, but in a way that's not destructive and unpleasant?

If he has things in his life that ARE good and where he has previous good relationships with adults in those, can you encourage more of those and/or speak to those adults and ask them to intervene? We got DS' sports coach to have a word with him - he was getting really negative and iffy about his sport, not wanting to turn up etc. A lot of it came down to lack of self confidence and a chat with his coach really helped.

Let go of as many of the smaller things as you can. That doesn't mean putting up wth really shittybehaviour, but I think that sometimes you do have to let some minor elements go.

What incentives are in place for positives? We've had short quick incentives for, for example, not getting codes at school for a week, with bigger incentives for more long term positive behaviours.

He does do a sport which he is very keen on, and that’s a positive, but it’s on hiatus at the moment which is making everything worse.

it’s the friends at school that are a problem. He’s in a music club at school which is really positive, but that’s on hiatus too til Feb and seems to be often called off.

the kids he hangs around with at lunch etc seem to be right dodgy twits- he went into town with some of them once and security guards were following them around like they were going to nick stuff! I haven’t heard things about them that fill me with confidence.

we told him he needs to join another club but he protested and said he can’t be bothered.

he can’t be bothered with much it seems.

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OhBling · 10/12/2024 14:27

His club that is on hiatus - is there an option to join a drop in version or a camp over christmas?

Friends at school - can you talk to his teacher about your concerns?

teenage boys unfortunately are the ones security watch because yes, some do behave badly. I tell DS that he needs to accept that, and also be on his best behaviour at all times.

Can you sugget acticities or events that will distract him - DS got into going to the gym with some other friends for a while, that was helpful.

What positive things are there that you can actively praise/acknowledge?

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