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When does Mum become Mam?

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NoEffingWay · 09/12/2024 21:33

I'm in the midlands, and it's definitely Mum here but I can't work out where it becomes 'Mam'. Is it all over the UK, or is there a crossover somewhere near Sheffield?

Not inciting a north-south debate here, I'm genuinely interested in linguistics!

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Doyouthinktheyknow · 10/12/2024 20:20

WrinklyCrowsFace · 09/12/2024 21:38

Mom in Birmingham 😊

My mum’s a born and bred Brummie and always says mom.

My dbro and I were born in Brum but moved South when we were young and we say mum.

DrewPeadrawers · 10/12/2024 20:20

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Enoughofthisnow · 10/12/2024 20:24

Kaaardiffgalnow · 10/12/2024 20:19

In Wales it's not just dialect but the Welsh language. Mam is the Welsh word for mother.

Thank you - I did not know this! Every day's a school day on mn Smile

user1471453601 · 10/12/2024 20:27

I think I know the answer to this. I live on the border between South yorkshire/Lincolnshire/Nottinghamshire.

I called my Mum either Mum or Mam kind of interchangeable. I've noticed since my my Mam/Mum died my adult child also alternates. I think they always have, just like I did.

nildesparandum · 10/12/2024 20:39

Always been mam in the North East.When I was a young child it was Mammy.
Mum and Mummy were considered very posh and only used by middle class people.
If it was Ma then it was what is now 'charvy'.

Flaskfan · 10/12/2024 20:43

It was mam in the Welsh side and the scouse side for me.

But we said mum. But that was cos everyone around us (Wales but non Welsh speakers) mum. Think the kids in the Welsh school said mam.

Papergirl1968 · 10/12/2024 21:20

Mom in the Black Country as pp said.
And usually nan or nanny for grandmother although I prefer to be called nanna/nana.
There must be a huge hole in the market for mom, mommy, mam and mammy greetings cards. Manufacturers are missing a trick.

MaidOfSteel · 10/12/2024 21:22

Mam in North Yorkshire/South Durham.

museumum · 10/12/2024 21:23

Not RTFT but has anyone posted this link yet? brilliantmaps.com/british-irish-words-for-mother-mum-mom/

BrunchBarBandit · 10/12/2024 21:28

thecrispfiend · 09/12/2024 22:08

My Welsh friends say Mam. My Dad is "old scouse" - growing up in Liverpool in the 60s and he called his mother "Mam" as did my mother who grew up in Manchester . I grew up in Liverpool in the 80s and everyone I knew referred to their mother as "me mum" or "me ma" 🤣

Yeah I came on to say this about Liverpool. It’s an older generation (and I think a working class) thing - my 80 year old dad and his many siblings called their mum ‘mam’. None of my Gen X cousins call their mums this and it seems to have died out now.

GetDressedYouMerryGentlemen · 10/12/2024 21:39

Papergirl1968 · 10/12/2024 21:20

Mom in the Black Country as pp said.
And usually nan or nanny for grandmother although I prefer to be called nanna/nana.
There must be a huge hole in the market for mom, mommy, mam and mammy greetings cards. Manufacturers are missing a trick.

We were in Newcastle just before MiLs birthday a few years ago DH popped into a card shop and came out empty handed because all the Mum cards said Mam so someone is on the case.

DisforDarkChocolate · 10/12/2024 21:41

Durham girl here and I had a Mam buy my children called my Mum. No idea how that happened.

Fabulouslyunfabulous · 10/12/2024 21:53

Mummy or Mother for me

DollyTubb · 10/12/2024 22:03

I'm a Salford/Manchester lass and it was always Mam. My mother always called her mother 'mam' but I was told in no uncertain terms not to use that for my mother so it was always 'mum'. Guess she thought it was less 'common'.
DH always uses 'Mam'.
Incidentally my mum's mum was always Nana. I think that's as northern a term as Mam but willing to be proved otherwise!

Flaskfan · 12/12/2024 06:04

BrunchBarBandit · 10/12/2024 21:28

Yeah I came on to say this about Liverpool. It’s an older generation (and I think a working class) thing - my 80 year old dad and his many siblings called their mum ‘mam’. None of my Gen X cousins call their mums this and it seems to have died out now.

I wonder if this is an Irish connection. My gran's parents were Irish, and so presumably she used mam when she was growing up in Liverpool. Wonder if there's also the Welsh aspect in earlier Liverpool dialects too.

StopStartStop · 12/12/2024 06:08

My grandma (Lancashire) was always 'mam' to her daughters, the first born in Sheffield, the second born in Oldham. My mother was 'mummy' or 'mama' to me. I was/am 'mummy', 'mum' or mamma to dd (Lancashire). Dd is 'mamma' or 'mummy' to dgd (Lancashire/Yorkshire).

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