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left concert because of blinding lights

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duckydoo234 · 08/12/2024 00:40

I took my daughter to a concert this evening - she's 9 but loves a lot of the music I did when I was a teenager. Anyway, band that was popular in the 90s, most people there were in their 50s or thereabouts. Problem was there were absolutely blinding backlights on the stage directed to the audience. Almost constantly, like they might go off for 10 seconds but then on again for the rest of the song. I moved around a bit, and it seemed like it was the same no matter where you were sat/standing. We though about leaving after less than an hour, because we were not enjoying it due to the lighting. Real shame, because otherwise it would have been a good gig but it was so uncomfortable, almost painful on the eyes and we sat there with our eyes closed most of the time. Eventually left after about 1 hour 15 mins because there was no point in staying, it just wasn't enjoyable.

So a couple of questions. Firstly, why? Why? Why are audiences subjected to this? I get that certain genres will want different lighting designs etc., also that I'm a fuddy duddy, nearly 50 etc. But why, for a concert where most people attending will be in the 45-65 age group, would you project into the audience in a way that will cause people to leave because they are uncomfortable to the point of not enjoying themselves?

Secondly, I surely won't pursue it, but at what point is it reasonable to request a refund, on the basis that the show was unwatchable? In this case, aside from the discomfort, the audience couldn't really see anything except human shapes, because of the backlighting. Isn't this "restricted view"?

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SmalllChange · 08/12/2024 00:51

But why, for a concert where most people attending will be in the 45-65 age group, would you project into the audience in a way that will cause people to leave because they are uncomfortable to the point of not enjoying themselves?

It'd be interesting to know if it caused 'people' to not enjoy themselves or just you?

Still, if you're not going to complain they'll never know if anyone's bothered by it I guess.

It's not reasonable to request a refund, assuming thousands of others were ok with it.

Prettydisgustingactually · 08/12/2024 00:58

That’s a real shame OP, especially for your daughter. It’s a bit like loud music I guess, when it’s so loud you just can’t enjoy it. If I were you I’d definitely complain and say you had to leave.

whydoihavetowork · 08/12/2024 01:01

Don't ever go to a Queen concert. Brian May's obsession with strobe lights gave me a 3 day migraine.

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duckydoo234 · 08/12/2024 01:07

I complained at the time, but only to the bar staff because they were accessible. Not exactly a complaint, but more "Is there a problem with the lights? People are blinded and want them turned down/off."
The groups of people both sides of us (all probably in their 60s) had the same problem, one lady said it was causing her eyes to water, and she was using tissues throughout as if she was crying.
You can expect loud music at a concert. If that's a problem, then either don't go, or bring earplugs. I don't think it's reasonable to expect to be blinded and/or have to close your eyes for most of a concert. Or leave.

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duckydoo234 · 08/12/2024 01:10

Maybe just plan on bringing sunglasses to all gigs in future. Who knows what else? Nose plugs? Wet suits? Anaesthetics?

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Myyearmytime · 08/12/2024 01:16

I wear sunglasses at gigs as my eyes can stand the light but my eyes are tucked anyways . Get your 2 yearly eye test and see if anything is wrong with eyes .

DancingOctopus · 08/12/2024 01:44

Sounds strange to me. Every concert that I have been to, it has been dark. Could you see the band properly with the bright lights turned on the audience?

TheVampireArmand · 08/12/2024 02:19

Wouldn’t recommend a Rammstein concert for you either unless you were in seating at the back 😂

duckydoo234 · 08/12/2024 09:45

Couldn't see the band at all, except kind of a hazy version of the lead singer because he had lots of lights on him. Mostly shapes because of the backlighting.

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MargaretThursday · 08/12/2024 09:47

I've had to leave venues because of that before. Bright lights like that very quickly give me a migraine.

JarvisIsland · 08/12/2024 09:53

I don’t know which band you are on about, so may not be relevant in terms of level of performance, however cheaper Chinese manufacturing has brought high end stage lighting into a more affordable level that brings it to smaller venues. On an arena/festival type stage, the stage itself will be at least as high as the crowd, so lights designed to go directly out will likely not be at eye level. People who perform in 1000 cap bar based venues (or the venues themselves) can now buy lights as bright as this, but the vastly smaller space means they aren’t really suitable.

Mind you, I did some stage lighting bits in the early 2000s at college and ‘audience blinders’ were a thing then too, and a popular effect.

SexAndCakes · 08/12/2024 09:55

Sounds like they need a new lighting designer.

duckydoo234 · 08/12/2024 09:55

It was the Lightning Seeds at the Liverpool Olympia. We were on the lower balcony; the ground may have been fine because the lights were tilted towards the balconies.

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duckydoo234 · 08/12/2024 09:57

It's not even like it was occasional strobes. These cannons were on almost constantly. Directly directly into my eyes.

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SomewhereInMyHeart · 08/12/2024 10:13

I knew it would be the Lightning Seeds. Saw them earlier in the tour and while the lights didn’t dazzle me (was standing), the band themselves were poorly lit. It was otherwise amazing although disappointing that we didn’t get an extra song instead of Three Lions. We just got one less song! (Im not in England! 🤣). I’m on the Lighting Seeds FB group and a lot of people saying the Olympia was freezing cold! Not good for their home town gig ☹️

duckydoo234 · 08/12/2024 18:02

It was cold but I wouldn't say that surprised me. Just kept my coat on, seems downstairs was even colder and didn't warm up because so many people didn't make it (the storm). Great that the people downstairs seemed to enjoy themselves, despite the cold, but I really didn't and wish I hadn't gone.

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FictionalCharacter · 08/12/2024 18:05

I’ve been to one like this. It’s poor lighting design. I agree, it’s horrible! The same band at a different venue had really good lighting.

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