Farmer protests and the new Arla uproar

[WaylandNewt]

Just reading about the different subjects and come to the conclusion all the uk farms could disappear and the uk would just switch to fully importing all the various foods needed ?

Well for one, if I buy milk I want milk. I don’t want any more additives to it than I suspect are already in some. What do you do/buy instead?

i just get the long life milk, personally i dont give a hoot what additives are added etc, as long as it improves the milk and unless the public are scientists that fully under the research then yea, ill cont to use the milk

Do you think this would be a good thing? I'm puzzled by the thread title in this context

re additives, the one that you refer to isn't in use to improve the milk.

yea, i dont really know what i was doing, just opening up the topics for debate. usually write the thread title, then fellow users create the debates on the issues etc

Perhaps the uproar over Bovaer will help the farmers if it enables them to differentiate their product..

If I have to pay an extra 5p a pint to buy untainted milk from the local dairy, rather than from Tesco, it may result in the quality farmers being paid a better price for their product.

thats a good point and one can only hope it does or would

I had to Google Bovaer to see what this is about.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8rjdgre3vpo.amp

If the above article is a true representation of the situation, then use of this additive is not necessarily a public safety issue. There's a big difference between the risks from bulk amounts of undiluted products and trace levels that might not even be present in milk produced by cows given it.

Plus the price difference is way more than 5 p a pint.

In 4 pint cartons, milk from Tesco is under 40 p a pint. It's more than double that from 'local dairies'.

Are you suggesting relying on imports for 100% of our food would be a good thing?

Food security (the ability of a country to independently feed its population) is very important.

If there is war, political unrest, weather disasters etc then instead of having a food supply we can rely on we would be competing with countries producing food who are struggling to feed their own populations. That would lead to massive increases in costs of importing food.

It would leave us in a huge cost of living crisis.

not good, no, but possible if needed

I would wholeheartedly disagree that 'possible if needed' is a sensible approach to food security in the UK, given the increasing destabilisation we see across the world. And the lessons that minimal levels of energy security have (hopefully) taught us.

I'd be interested to hear your views on why you think otherwise.

Ita not "possible" to rely 100% on imported foods we don't have the money and the rest of the world don't have the food

This additive has been trialed in the Netherlands I believe for 12 months they would have seen something in 12 months

I see no reason to attack farmers over a additive they have no control over if they want to sell the milk they have to use the additive

What a lot of panic about nothing. The additive doesn't even reach the milk.

I've noticed a lot of people diving headfirst into conspiracy theories since covid. Perhaps they seek solidarity by being part of a group.

Good points, ill admit i didnt think of the ££ for imports

but at the same time, various companies have also caused cover ups, scandels, etc so theirs blame on both sides as to why people believe

For me it's just food processing for profit.

If this had been done by Arla as internal R&D out of their own profits to improve the planet then it would be received very differently.

Instead this is just more food processing, profits for pharmaceutical companies, taking funding from governments under the umbrella of climate change.

I don't consider myself a conspiracy theorist but in recent years I've become more aware of how everything is first and foremost about money and profit.