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What could this mean-redundancy?!

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newandconfused5 · 04/12/2024 20:13

A bit stressed tonight.. hoping for anyone with similar experience or HR experience to share experiences.

My partner works for a charity. They are in a consultation period for a restructure. In the charity there are two manages. These job roles are changing slightly and both managers have been told to reapply for their jobs. Two new job roles, two managers, only these two have been told about the internal advert.
More restructuring to come, this is the first phase.
Application went in on Friday. Haven't heard anything yet. Interview date set for next Thursday.
My partner received an email today from the CEO to meet tomorrow morning at off site offices... and to please send receipt of receiving the email.

What do you think is happening?
Do you think he will not be interviewed and therefore being made redundant?

Partner spoke to other candidate tonight who hasn't had an invite to interview yet.

Feeling very nervous!!
It's the last minute meeting and receipt of reading that's worrying me!!

Thanks in advance!

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PinkCosYouAreSoVery · 05/12/2024 16:56

@newandconfused5 I hope it wasn't bad news today, such an unsettling feeling!

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 05/12/2024 16:59

Fingers crossed for you!

Mylifeisamesssuchamess · 05/12/2024 17:48

Hope it went well

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newandconfused5 · 05/12/2024 21:11

Thank you for checking in.

It's not good news, he has been suspended following an investigation. Never been in this situation before in working life. Interview is on hold at the moment.
Suspended for two weeks, pending investigation.

We are devastated and very stressed about it. A member of staff he line manages has complained about a comment he made (not sexual- just thought I'd clarify!) Hopefully will all get cleared up soon.

Thanks everyone

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Gazelda · 05/12/2024 22:00

Oh gosh, I'm so sorry you're facing this.

I hope it's quickly resolved so you can start looking forward.

GameOfJones · 05/12/2024 22:14

That is difficult timing before Christmas. Does he know what the comment was that the staff member is referring to? In my experience suspension means that it was something relatively "bad" otherwise you would normally try to resolve things informally first.

I'm really sorry this is happening, particularly at this time of year.

newandconfused5 · 06/12/2024 00:38

He's been told that he has been suspended because it's a relatively small office and to reduce the 'drama'. That was the explanation given to him.
Two weeks is the timeframe although CEO said it should be quicker than this. Waiting for formal letter today so he can prepare his side of events.
A complete nightmare. He is so upset about it. Really not his character to offend people. So we shall prepare and see what happens.
He isn't part of a union either which is a shame.

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GameOfJones · 06/12/2024 10:28

Even if not in a union, he can call ACAS for free advice if he wants to.....it may be helpful for him to chat through the process with them.

Obviously we don't know what he said but if he has caused offence the best thing for him to do is to hold his hands up, explain that no offence was meant but he recognises that was the result and apologise. Unless what he said was something absolutely dreadful it's hard to argue with someone that acknowledges what happened, owns it and sincerely apologises.

PinkCosYouAreSoVery · 06/12/2024 13:40

I'm sorry. Your thread resonated as we've just been through similar, our outcome was job kept but it was a horrible couple of weeks, the waiting and not knowing is awful, all consuming. Plus the upset that someone has made an allegation about you with a previously clean sheet. We just had to hold on to the thinking that we, as far as we knew, had done nothing wrong, and therefore that there was no evidence or other witness statements that could result in employment ceasing. Try to keep faith in the process and that the right outcome will prevail.

notsureofname · 13/12/2024 07:38

I keep thinking of you. Any update ? So tough for you.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 13/12/2024 07:55

newandconfused5 · 05/12/2024 21:11

Thank you for checking in.

It's not good news, he has been suspended following an investigation. Never been in this situation before in working life. Interview is on hold at the moment.
Suspended for two weeks, pending investigation.

We are devastated and very stressed about it. A member of staff he line manages has complained about a comment he made (not sexual- just thought I'd clarify!) Hopefully will all get cleared up soon.

Thanks everyone

It's a set up, they want him out. What was the comment?

Make sure he keeps proper records of everything.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 13/12/2024 07:59

How stressful. Hope you're ok.

newandconfused5 · 13/12/2024 17:19

Thank you all!
Still suspended. All interviews have been completed now. It's just an internal investigation. We were hoping to hear an update today as it was being discussed with trustees today. But no news so it will be Monday now. Incredibly stressful and it has consumed my poor partner who hasn't been sleeping well at all, has had a few moments of crisis and disappeared and spoke with the Samaritans. It's been really awful.
We managed to find some good evidence to support his case.
Just have our fingers crossed it will all be over soon. Everything feels on hold right now.
To answer the question about comments, I won't be specific but there were a few which ranged from 1 semi serious to really quite trivial.. so quite mixed. Lots of one word against another.. so it feels quite unfair and all up in the air at the moment.
Thank you for checking in!

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notsureofname · 19/12/2024 14:06

Still not resolved ?

newandconfused5 · 19/12/2024 22:22

No.. it has been agonising.
Meeting date still hasn't been given. Apparently they need to give 48 hours notice for this meeting?
So if we don't hear anything tomorrow then it will be after Christmas?

The original letter said 2 weeks suspended but hopeful to resolve quicker. It's two weeks ago today so it has gone over the time given.
It really is very stressful. I'm not sure what to think of it all.
Thank you for checking in

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GargoylesofBeelzebub · 20/12/2024 10:25

How awful for you that they are dragging this out over Christmas. That's very unfair.

I hope you try and forget about it as much as possible and can enjoy your Christmas.

notsureofname · 20/12/2024 14:41

This is cruel to keep it going until after Christmas. How are you supposed to enjoy Christmas with this hanging over you ?

newandconfused5 · 20/12/2024 20:43

Update today!!...

Everything has been dropped.. they cannot find sufficient grounds to agree with the allegations.

Meeting on Monday to discuss it going forward. He has been given Xmas eve off so will head back to work in the new year.

That was a really horrible couple of weeks.
During this time my partner has really suffered mentally and even called the Samaritans during a moment of crisis. Very testing time.
Thank you to everyone for your words of wisdom and to those who checked in again.

Merry Christmas!

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Ladybrows · 20/12/2024 21:02

Great news! Delighted for your husband. It must have been dreadfully stressful for you all. Merry Christmas. 😊

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 20/12/2024 22:11

Oh fantastic news!! What an ordeal though.

notsureofname · 21/12/2024 03:19

I am so pleased for you. Bet you slept well last night ! Happy Christmas and all the best for 2025.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 21/12/2024 10:43

newandconfused5 · 13/12/2024 17:19

Thank you all!
Still suspended. All interviews have been completed now. It's just an internal investigation. We were hoping to hear an update today as it was being discussed with trustees today. But no news so it will be Monday now. Incredibly stressful and it has consumed my poor partner who hasn't been sleeping well at all, has had a few moments of crisis and disappeared and spoke with the Samaritans. It's been really awful.
We managed to find some good evidence to support his case.
Just have our fingers crossed it will all be over soon. Everything feels on hold right now.
To answer the question about comments, I won't be specific but there were a few which ranged from 1 semi serious to really quite trivial.. so quite mixed. Lots of one word against another.. so it feels quite unfair and all up in the air at the moment.
Thank you for checking in!

Is discussing it with trustees part of the disciplinary policy? Sounds very dodgy to me ... I would not discuss a disciplinary investigation with anyone, other than a solicitor.

newandconfused5 · 21/12/2024 13:33

Trustees are not involved now. Meeting is with HR now.

Strangely feel more stressed now that we know he still has a job!

Still makes everything feel a lot better!

Merry Christmas everyone x

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umdontdothat · 22/12/2024 10:34

Your DH needs to make looking for a new job top priority in 2025. His employers are untrustworthy.

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