How to enforce vape ban in the house ?

[Stoppingvaping]

Both my teens vape. I’ve told them countless times it’s banned in the house. Every time I caught them in their room I confiscated and threw away the vape. They just get more. On one occasion dd was screaming at me as it was her last one and she hadn’t been paid yet.

I’ve stopped their pocket money but both have part time jobs.

They now have taken to vaping under the disguise of ‘going to the toilet/having a shower’ and then deny it but I can smell the vapes. I can’t tackle them physically to go in clothing pockets they are wearing and I’m just fed up and can’t think of what to do now ? They won’t follow this one rule? They follow every other house rule and generally behave well except for this . What can I try ?

I don't think this is a battle I would fight, particularly not with the 18 year old.

I would say they can only do it in their rooms with the windows open.

Oh and stop throwing stuff away that they have bought and paid for with their own money! That's definitely not on, especially for your 18 year old adult.

OP has tried 'conversation' and it didn't work.

I'm with you OP, I wouldn't let my big sister vape in my house when she asked. Luckily she is civil and asked beforehand, she went out in my garden.
Your own DC are out of order, you are not being hysterical as a pp mooted.
I can't better the advice about changing the password on WiFi though and refuse to cook for them or do any lifts etc.

@Stoppingvaping Adults talk through their feelings if your 16 year old feels adult enough to vape then can have a rational conversation as to why they think it's such a good idea. Screams at you?!?!
18 legally allowed , but again they can explain to you in a metered fashion why they find it appropriate to not respect you or the house rules.
18 can go house share/rent etc if such an independent grown up adult who doesn't need house rules in my opinion .

My rules are absolutely no smoking in the house and garden at all.

With regard to vaping, I would say that it should be in their rooms with the window open, whatever the weather. So far only DD3 has done it and she quite quickly gave up.

I'd ask the 18 year old to leave your house and rent a room in a shared house due to lack of respect for you. I'd warn the 16 year old if she won't stop vaping in your house she'll be moving out at 18 too.

Get them to use menthol flavour vapes. Zero aroma.

Better vaping than smoking anyday.
Pick your battles.

i can’t believe some of the responses on here. I would never let anyone smoke or vape in my house. We don’t even let under 18’s have a phone in their room. But we do have lovely considerate, happy, successful kids - I suspect some of the other posters don’t.

Stand firm. Check their bags/pockets when they come in.

Vaping absolutely lingers and residue sticks to walls and furnishings - my neice trashed her bedroom this way - needed a total repaint.

My 17 year old was vaping out the window, it stank his room out and I could smell it in the hallway and he hadn't been doing it for long as I noticed quite quickly.

I had to wash the curtains and the windows and window sill. I explained to him as the vapour is full of chemicals its sticks to everything. Luckily he stopped after I asked him.

If it was me I would sit them down and explain as a non smoker it's really unpleasant for you to live with. Super calm and say do it outside or you move out. Chances are if they moved in with friends that don't vape they wouldn't be able to do it inside with them either so they need to understand that it's about respecting the people you live with. Not just that you're mum !

Honestly after that if they still did it I'd lock the Wi-Fi and streaming services and be a massive twat about it

The fact that they're addicted to it!

Nope. Their rooms are part of the house, which is a shared space owned by their parents. They can make their own rules when they have their own house. Nobody is going to be vaping or smoking in my house, regardless of their age. Certainly not my teenagers.

Your house your rules. Tell them to go outside and do it or sanction them. It’s not on and they need to show more respect.

I personally hate vapes and they are completely wasting their money.

I would go with WiFi password too.
Do they pay their own mobile bills?

If they're generally good kids then consider not making this the hill you choose to die on

My 18 year old vapes in his bedroom and I was very unhappy about this when he started 6 months ago. However he is very good in all other respects (on the whole!) so I've chosen to ignore it.

They have zero respect for you sadly.

vaping is very addictive. 1 in 6 vapes confiscated from school students contained spice:

https://www.bath.ac.uk/announcements/english-school-children-unwittingly-smoking-spice-spiked-vapes-finds-university-of-bath/

it’s a horrid battle but it’s worth keeping fighting.

Has the dentist not given them the frighteners?

We went to the dentist last week and he was telling us how bad teenagers’ teeth are now because of vaping.

The casual attitude to vaping on this thread clearly shows why it’s such an epidemic at the moment. It’s a stinking disgusting expensive addiction, and it’s not yet known if it’s harmful to people in the vicinity. There’s no way I’d allow vaping in my house.

It’s because they are addicted to nicotine. It’s a drug, and they’re drug addicts. Try taking the drug away from an addict. They freak out.

I'd take both their house keys off their keyring. They can ring the doorbell when they come home and need in until they can start following the rules.

I'm thinking what I would do in your shoes.

It's a difficult one, because although I'd like to suggest something along the lines of a weekly deep clean of their bedrooms, washing all fabrics and surfaces, I also don't know how you would manage to enforce it. I know that you can't "force " teens to do things.
As others have said you can really only act on what you can do, so switch off wi fi , etc.
And besides, that's not really the heart of the matter.

It's how to get them to acknowledge that their decisions to damage their health, should not in any way put your health at risk. And by vaping in the house they are imposing this on you.
It's similar to force feeding someone food that not only do they not like, but that can also cause them harm.
Unfortunately I feel that the addictive properties in vapes will be making this really difficult to fix.

Why do you suspect this.