Royal Sisters and their Middle East jaunts

[BustingBaoBun]

Why, oh why is it OK for Beatrice and Eugenie to be over in the Middle East using their position in the Royal Family as unofficial Ambassadors for the UK?

I can only presume they are following in their father's footsteps by securing heaps of money so that dear daddy doesn't have to leave his massive Royal Estate.

They are attending energy conferences, rubbing shoulders with the Crown Prince of UAE, Both appear to have unofficial new roles on the world stage. Why? They are not elected offcials, they are just daughters of a disgraced Royal Family member. Some reports indicate she was given Charles's blessing, no idea if that's true.

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/uk-news/princess-beatrices-unofficial-new-role-34128583

So agree with this. It is people with no merit, no qualifications for anything. I have no doubt Beatrice and Eugenie are probably pleasant enough people but what the heck are they doing in the ME being unofficial Ambassadors to the UK.

They are their father's children that's for sure... that's what he did. Sad thing was, he was official and rubber stamped by the Queen.

I'm not sure your issue is with them, but the concept if a constitutional monarchy as head if state with famiky support.

Perhaps you are a republican and rather than focusing on the sisters, you could look at alternative structures for the uk.

I've long been pro having a labrador as head of state. With a fancy collar.

I do agree. However, there are many events that occur that I find so wrong about members of the Royal Family and their role in our society. This is just news at the moment.

Last week it was the Dispatches programme and the Duchies.

Next week it will be something else.

If people want a monarchy (I don’t ) then they have to accept that this woman is a senior member of it as granddaughter of the recently deceased queen and niece of Charles, and that she will have her nose in the trough with the others. You either want this bloodline arrangement or you don’t. You can’t pick and choose which men and women are suitable and which aren’t 🤷‍♀️

I haven’t clicked on the article. I am not a fan of accompanying these articles with grotesque, open-mouthed photos designed to make the subject look silly. I’d rather a grownup debate.

Yep. Not picking and choosing. Don't want any of them!

But I know without fail nothing will be changing for a very long time. So I will accept the current Monarch and queen, and that is it. I do not want to know about all the wider family hangers on..

Someone said to me the other day that they wonder if Hello magazine has been bought by the Royals. in the past 10 issues, (apart from one) on the front is a Royal or one of the family... everyone from James Middleton to Lady Fred Windsor, York sisters blah blah

I want them to go away, I don't want to see their faces. King sign papers and do what he has to do, but let's stop this gravy train with all the rest of them.

I do think the tide is turning but it's very slow

Come on, the whole family/system is built on a notion that they're chosen by God and above any accountability to earthly authority 🤮🤮🤮 sadly, lots of stupid people lap this up as the truth.

"Yet we don't complain about paying tax to keep them in palaces and gold carriages from which they can wave to the great unwashed".

I do!

The disgraced Andrew held an official role as Trade Envoy.

Neither of the princesses hold formal roles, nor are they working royals, nor do they have any particular "in" to the government or companies. They probably can network quite well as they are a part of the nebulous "establishment", but other than providing introductions, they don't really have anything to offer.

The idea floated in the article that many see them as unofficial UK ambassadors appears to be wholly without sourcing (just an impression formed by a US journalist).

She appears to have travelled icw her role with a tech firm and to be taking an interest in AI. Other than meeting the Sultan privately (which probably was protocol for a visiting royal to be received), what has she done other than attend a conference which has high-profile people amongst the delegates?

That was abolished in 1688, and no-one but no-one believes it now

(Though it's a pretty persistent internet untruth that does get replayed by people unfamiliar with British constitutional history)

What’s the harm? They seem like nice women and they didn’t ask to be born in to that situation. We’re all dealt a card in life and some are more privileged than others, such is life…. Their father is disgraced so far better them being involved than him.

🤣🤣. Thanks @Needmorelego , I needed a laugh today! Jobs?! Seriously?None of that lot would recognise a real job if it bit them on the arse and sang the national anthem!

But think of all the tourist money the RF bring in. Obviously you can't see a Royal but just travelling to stand near a palace is good enough. Perhaps these two are out there talking about human/women's rights. Not that the Saudis are going to listen to 2 women chatting about these subjects.

@Tutorpuzzle Beatrice is one of the Vice Presidents of the tech company Infiniti and Eugenie is one of the directors of an Art Gallery.
Both actual proper jobs.
Beatrice is apparently at this event as part of her job - not as a Princess.

@Needmorelego

“Actual, proper jobs…” 🤣🤣

@Tutorpuzzle well yes they are.
Both princesses are university education and have worked their way up in their chosen careers (it's Afiniti that Beatrice works for - not Infinti my error in spelling)

@Tutorpuzzle Eugenie works for Hauser and Wirth if you are interested in looking them up.

Princess Beatrice is a Counsellor of State, so can carry out royal duties in lieu of the King.

Some reports indicate she was given Charles's blessing, no idea whether that's true

Well, if she wasn't then she doesn't have an unofficial new role and wasn't representing the UK'

So a bit of a non story? She isn't funded by tax payers, she has no official or 'unofficial' role. Yes, she is there because of her connections. I expect 95% of the other people attending are as well.

I don;t believe it to be 'a non story' no.

The Times has an interesting take on it.

Princess Beatrice represents a more modern and accessible face of the British monarchy that works for engagement in the Middle East.

Yep, so they have degrees - do we really think any university is going to fail a royal? And they 'worked their way up'. Again, do we really think any company is going to keep them on the lowest rung? If they were representing the country it would be outrageous. As it is, I guess they continue daddys shameful networking - dont forget at least have benefited from donations/wedding gifts of cast from shady characters.

Edited to say - links to dodgy ME characters go back generations in the RF.

It's more than that.

Anyone in the RF that the monarch authorises can carry out royal duties (for example the Princess of Wales, the Duchess of Edinburgh, the Duchess of Sussex before she stepped down, the Kents, the Gloucesters, Princess Alexandra).

Counsellors of State can, normally in pairs, carry our monarchical functions (signing laws in to being, making specified senior appointments, exercising the right to be consulted by the PM, signing off Honours, dealing with Privy Council matters, certain diplomatic functions). This can cover short incapacities of the monarch (or in days of yore before modern comms) absence overseas, without the need to appoint a Regent.

Who is Counsellor of State is laid down in law: the consort (optional) the heir (once age 18 or above) and the next 3 adults (over age 21) in the succession. So that's the Prince of Wales, the Duke of Sussex, the Duke of York and Princess Beatrice. But CoS have to be ordinarily resident in UK, which Harry isn't; and no-one in their right mind would ask Andrew to do anything; so KC requested Parliament to approve (as a one off) the installation of the Princess Royal and the Duke of Edinburgh as one-off super-numaries

They are just getting some Vitamin D and topping up their tan before winter sets in.
Something one encourages as it can be a bit disturbing if they are wandering around Sandringham all pastey and lethargic ar Christmas. They look like ghosts!!!

Anyway calm down everyone, you will be expecting one to pay IHT next!
(No, no, that's not going to happen. Guffaw, guffaw.)

Have no problem with (very) minor members of the Royal Family doing this but these quasi-official trips - especially given the dreadful behaviour from both their parents in the past, is enormously (and rightly) problematic. Since they have no expertise in the area, it does come across as grifting pure and simple…

Further reason why half in/half out can't work?

But she's never been a working royal. Just part of the wider family crowd scene and the odd garden party.

One feels that one has to mention that one has had to demote the Dictionary Equerry for putting 'pastey' when it should, of course, be 'pasty'.

One hopes that a spell (note one's clever pun there!) 'bagging up' the hounds waste in the kennels may focus their attention a bit more.