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Looking for some advice about my 10 year old daughter

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Juno86 · 17/11/2024 18:52

She’s just turned 10 a few weeks ago and it’s like a switch has flipped 🤦🏻‍♀️

She’s always been kind, sensitive, and quite “strait laced”, for want of a better word. Not one for breaking the rules. She’s bright as a button, a voracious reader, loves school, has a good group of friends.

And I’m still seeing these things. But she’s changing. It’s hard to articulate but I’ll try.

Firstly she started pushing back on little things. Uniform, for example. Wants to wear black leggings and trainers to school, which strictly speaking is not within the uniform policy. I don’t mind that, she finds tights uncomfortable and doesn’t like the school trousers, quite a few of them wear leggings and the school aren’t that strict. I bought her black trainers and some nice new leggings. Fine - but I did notice that this was a rule (albeit one that’s not really enforced) she was deliberately breaking. I actually was secretly quite pleased to see her pushing back a little bit.

But it’s escalated from there. Her sleep is atrocious. She goes to bed 8.30-9pm during the week (and we’re more relaxed at weekends) but can still be awake and pottering at midnight. I tuck her in with a book several times a night but she just won’t try to sleep. I can’t make her. It doesn’t matter how much I explain how important it is. Mornings are consequently very difficult, she won’t get up, we end up falling out. She suddenly does not care if she’s late.

Her mood swings are pretty extreme. She cries a LOT suddenly but can’t articulate why. She lurches between being very clingy with me and screaming bloody murder at me. I asked her to tidy her bedroom today (an utter pigsty) and she screamed that I am ruining her life. Then when I calmed her down she made me sit with her and watch a film, head on my lap, wouldn’t let me leave. She suddenly hates doing things like going for walks and will ruin it for everyone else with her moods and stomping around.

She’s very clever in her class but is stressing herself out about her schoolwork (her teacher is emphatic that she has no concerns about her work and that she’s doing really well). I feel like she’s putting a lot of pressure on herself suddenly. I don’t know why - it’s not coming from us? I’ve explained to her over and over that she’s doing fine, her best is all we can ask, but she doesn’t seem to be taking it on board.

She’s a young 10 compared to some of her peers. Isn’t remotely interested in fashion/skincare/tiktok etc like some of them. Doesn’t have a phone and has never expressed much of an interest in one (I’ve said not until secondary anyway). Loves her teddies and squishmallows, plays Barbie with her sister etc. I love that about her, that she’s young. She seems to be well-liked in her class, her friends are lovely and seem to be on her wavelength. We’ve had some minor issues with fall-outs lately but nothing too bad so far.

I think I just want to know if this is normal for this sort of age. I’m quite worried about her. I think a lot of this is likely because she’s exhausted (but I don’t really know what to do about that, I’ve tried changing her bedtime etc but she just refuses to close her eyes). But the crying for no reason also screams hormones to me. Would that be right? It would be great to hear from others with kids around this age, and what they are like.

(Sorry this is an actual book but once I started I couldn’t stop…).

OP posts:
Juno86 · 17/11/2024 21:59

Ok. A change of approach required then. I’ll back off on the sleep thing and see where we get to.

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FreshLaundry · 17/11/2024 22:04

Sorry to be ‘that person’ but any signs of autism? Poor sleep, sensitivity of clothes, difficulties with anxiety potentially? Probably not but maybe worth a thought. Check out Autistic Girls Network if you’re unsure.

Gymmum82 · 17/11/2024 22:32

Sounds like my 10yo. One minute she’s ok the next she’s wailing that I’ve ruined her life over something minor.
Im sure it’s hormones. She cries over nothing and extremely sensitive. Hoping it settles down

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Juno86 · 17/11/2024 22:56

FreshLaundry · 17/11/2024 22:04

Sorry to be ‘that person’ but any signs of autism? Poor sleep, sensitivity of clothes, difficulties with anxiety potentially? Probably not but maybe worth a thought. Check out Autistic Girls Network if you’re unsure.

I don’t know. I don’t think so? I’ll have a look anyway. Thanks.

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BellaQueen · 17/11/2024 22:58

I was ten when I started my periods as was my daughter. All what you have described is exactly how I was and she just before starting

RareMaker · 17/11/2024 23:01

NeedSleepNow · 17/11/2024 19:45

Shounds very normal to be honest.

My daughter, aged 11, is very similar. It started for her a year or so ago, severe mood swings alternating between being lovely, then shouting at anyone who looked her way, sobbing... When asked what's wrong she never knows and just cries more. All that helps is hugging her tightly until she wants to let go or sitting stroking her hair to calm her.

She struggles to sleep at night too, calls me up to her room about 15 times to tuck her in or hug her then struggles to get up in the morning.

She started secondary school this year and has put a lot of pressure on her self to do well, she's found it hard with the pressure to look a certain way, wear certain clothes, style her hair etc. when at home she is very young still loving to play with her sylvanian families and squishmallows.

I find it all exhausting to be honest and hope that when she starts her periods her hormones and mood swings will settle a little. I've been thinking she must be close to starting for over a year now! I think all you can do is try to stay calm and reasuring for your daughter.

This. Same with our daughter. Its so hard.

ImustLearn2Cook · 18/11/2024 03:55

Hi @Juno86 my dd is 10 and I can totally relate to everything you wrote about your dd.

I bought a book called Girls Stuff 8-12 by Kaz Cooke to read with my dd. It has been really helpful for her and for me too. It helps to make sense of puberty and the changes in her body and hormones, feelings, moods, friendships etc. And it is not only informative it has humour and is relatable.

Here’s a link to a book review on it and another link to Kaz Cooke’s website:

https://amazingme.com.au/book/girl-stuff-8-12/

https://kazcooke.com.au/book/girl-stuff-8-12/

Girl Stuff 8 - 12 - Amazing Me

Girl Stuff 8 - 12 is a resource for girls who want to know more about all the changes during puberty and how to be prepared.

https://amazingme.com.au/book/girl-stuff-8-12

researchers3 · 18/11/2024 05:48

I have one of these too!!

Glad it's not just me...

LoudSnoringDog · 18/11/2024 05:59

Dd turned 11 in September. Sounds just like her. I'm actually in her bed as I type as she wanted me to sleep with her last night.
She goes from calm to feral banshee in 60 seconds and then extremely upset at herself

I've found telling her to get in the shower and concentrate on the water pounding on her head helps. Seems to regulate her

OrlandointheWilderness · 18/11/2024 06:35

Bless her! Definitely normal development I'm afraid, DD was very similar and was also a young 10 - still is at 13, her soft toy goes to all the cool sleepovers! 😂 it's the first hit of hormones and puberty. I'd just remind her in a nice way that all these confusing feelings and all the crying and screaming are entirely normal and you know she isn't being a big old baggage 😂.
With mine, if we had a moment where she started to stress and get ready to explode I did try and remember. We'd have a second to have a cuddle, even in the middle of a disagreement, which calmed everything down so we could talk about it nicely. She's got very good at recognising and regulating her emotions. At the moment.... is only 13!
There is hope! My DD is still absolutely lovely bar the odd moment we laugh about afterwards.

sashh · 18/11/2024 06:45

It's hormones. She probably isn't having a great time either.

I was 11 when my periods started, and very quickly I was in sync with my mother. One week in four was hell for everyone for a few years.

Remember when you gave birth to her? Then 2 or 3 days later you went through every emotion in the course of 24 hours? She's going through something similar.

Cld9 · 11/12/2025 08:54

Juno86 · 17/11/2024 18:52

She’s just turned 10 a few weeks ago and it’s like a switch has flipped 🤦🏻‍♀️

She’s always been kind, sensitive, and quite “strait laced”, for want of a better word. Not one for breaking the rules. She’s bright as a button, a voracious reader, loves school, has a good group of friends.

And I’m still seeing these things. But she’s changing. It’s hard to articulate but I’ll try.

Firstly she started pushing back on little things. Uniform, for example. Wants to wear black leggings and trainers to school, which strictly speaking is not within the uniform policy. I don’t mind that, she finds tights uncomfortable and doesn’t like the school trousers, quite a few of them wear leggings and the school aren’t that strict. I bought her black trainers and some nice new leggings. Fine - but I did notice that this was a rule (albeit one that’s not really enforced) she was deliberately breaking. I actually was secretly quite pleased to see her pushing back a little bit.

But it’s escalated from there. Her sleep is atrocious. She goes to bed 8.30-9pm during the week (and we’re more relaxed at weekends) but can still be awake and pottering at midnight. I tuck her in with a book several times a night but she just won’t try to sleep. I can’t make her. It doesn’t matter how much I explain how important it is. Mornings are consequently very difficult, she won’t get up, we end up falling out. She suddenly does not care if she’s late.

Her mood swings are pretty extreme. She cries a LOT suddenly but can’t articulate why. She lurches between being very clingy with me and screaming bloody murder at me. I asked her to tidy her bedroom today (an utter pigsty) and she screamed that I am ruining her life. Then when I calmed her down she made me sit with her and watch a film, head on my lap, wouldn’t let me leave. She suddenly hates doing things like going for walks and will ruin it for everyone else with her moods and stomping around.

She’s very clever in her class but is stressing herself out about her schoolwork (her teacher is emphatic that she has no concerns about her work and that she’s doing really well). I feel like she’s putting a lot of pressure on herself suddenly. I don’t know why - it’s not coming from us? I’ve explained to her over and over that she’s doing fine, her best is all we can ask, but she doesn’t seem to be taking it on board.

She’s a young 10 compared to some of her peers. Isn’t remotely interested in fashion/skincare/tiktok etc like some of them. Doesn’t have a phone and has never expressed much of an interest in one (I’ve said not until secondary anyway). Loves her teddies and squishmallows, plays Barbie with her sister etc. I love that about her, that she’s young. She seems to be well-liked in her class, her friends are lovely and seem to be on her wavelength. We’ve had some minor issues with fall-outs lately but nothing too bad so far.

I think I just want to know if this is normal for this sort of age. I’m quite worried about her. I think a lot of this is likely because she’s exhausted (but I don’t really know what to do about that, I’ve tried changing her bedtime etc but she just refuses to close her eyes). But the crying for no reason also screams hormones to me. Would that be right? It would be great to hear from others with kids around this age, and what they are like.

(Sorry this is an actual book but once I started I couldn’t stop…).

Hi,
I know it’s been a while since you posted but I’m going through the exact same thing with my daughter. I’m trying to be supportive but it’s really wearing me down and it’s impacting our family life.
I’m just wondering what’s happening now and is there any light at the end of the tunnel??

minipie · 11/12/2025 14:15

Cld9 I’m not the OP but did respond upthread as we had similar issues

Two things have helped us - 1) Melatonin. DD was really struggling to get to sleep, coming downstairs after 2 hrs genuinely trying to sleep, so I bought some from the US. Game changer for sleep, and therefore for mood. Still get strops sometimes, but much less. 2) Realising it goes in phases. DD has the odd very difficult phase but then goes back to being fine. Which makes the difficult phases easier to bear. She also gets spots around the difficult phases which is rubbish for her but helps me remember it’s hormonal…

ItalianChineseIndianMexican · 11/12/2025 15:03

I pretty much could have written your post OP!
I have a just turned 11 year old DD. Am putting it down to hormones.

Cld9 · 11/12/2025 18:08

I sent this thread to my husband to read through and he thought I’d started it because our daughter is the exact same!!

Cld9 · 11/12/2025 18:09

minipie · 11/12/2025 14:15

Cld9 I’m not the OP but did respond upthread as we had similar issues

Two things have helped us - 1) Melatonin. DD was really struggling to get to sleep, coming downstairs after 2 hrs genuinely trying to sleep, so I bought some from the US. Game changer for sleep, and therefore for mood. Still get strops sometimes, but much less. 2) Realising it goes in phases. DD has the odd very difficult phase but then goes back to being fine. Which makes the difficult phases easier to bear. She also gets spots around the difficult phases which is rubbish for her but helps me remember it’s hormonal…

Thanks for getting back to me. It’s just so hard to stay patient with her when it seems so irrational but then I remind myself it’s hormonal and I can be just as bad so that helps me.

Mariocatgran · 11/12/2025 20:34

Hormones

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 11/12/2025 20:45

My dd was a carbon copy of this. Absolutely at 9 and 10.

Seemed to calm down until y10. Then she went into burnout for 5 years with undiagnosed ADHD. Refused school for 18 months.Diagnosed at 17.

Shes 19 now and still recovering. No doubt a million will come in and accuse me of ‘armchair diagnosis’

Ive lived through all those things and hoped they’d go away. They didn’t.

Clothes sensitivity
Inability to sleep ( adhd have delayed circadian rhythms)
Stressijg about homework
Young for her age
Rule abiding with flashes of defiance
Meltdowns when asked to do something
Perfectionism
Didn’t like sleeping alone. It took a real dip around 9 or 10.
Emotional sensitivity.

Could be hormones🤷🏼‍♀️that’s we thought. It wasn’t though.

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