How are snakes at work not shunned by their colleagues?

[ThisSereneHiker]

How do workplace snitches who tell on you to the manager for your mistakes instead of helping you still have friends? Who would want to trust them?

Depends on the situation. One off small error - they should just tell you.
multiple issues affecting their work, or a large mistake - makes sense.

As an aside years ago I had a team member who used to want to tell me every minor transgression her colleagues had made that had nothing to do with her e.g “Sue was late this morning”(if I hadn’t been there to notice) or “John didn’t say y in his presentation”. While obviously I never showed it, it made me very much dislike her.

You have quite a few posts about with these types of questions.
Is this some kind of upping engagement on MN thing or do you just have issues with so many people?

@ThisSereneHiker, it’s you again. You are the queen of omissions, so I imagine there’s a considerable backstory here.

Surely you mean the playgound?
Snitches..

A cow bag?
Is this the Nurdery Net thread??

Sounds like other people are having to pick up after you a lot!

OP. This is one of a long list of threads where you are having difficulty understanding relationships in general and work issues. You give minimal information about the issue, answer in one liners without reflecting on responses, and eventually drip in your ASD diagnosis.

So knowing that I expect your colleagues are just fed up.

It depends on the circumstances. But in general I'd be less likely to 'trust' someone who can't even do their own job than the person trying to ensure the job was done properly. Assuming are talking about "Jo keeps filing x document in the wrong place/stacks the parsnips on top of the cheese/is scrolling her phone rather than supervising the children" and not "Jo was 1.4 mins late back from lunch again today/left her biro five desks away from me against the clear desk policy". Which is it?

If you work in healthcare you have a duty attached to your registration to speak up about unsafe or unethical practice that puts patients at risk. Never mind being a "snake" or a "snitch", it's not high school.

I reported a psychologist once for having an inappropriate relationship with a patient, and one who was taking money for seeing other members of a patient's family in private practice outside the NHS service we worked in. Both are conflicts of interest and both put patients at risk of harm and exploitation. But sure, I'm the problem for snitching.

I don't want to be trusted by people like that who put their own interests or sexual gratification ahead of patient safety and care and professional ethics. They are not trustworthy; why would I want them to trust me, or care what they think?

Ah I get it, you were crap at your job, f*cked up and you’re sore because you were called out on it. But it’s someone else’s fault.

righto.

Well, you know how it works OP. Snitches get Outlook glitches.

Sounds about right.
As for snitching...do even kids say that any more?

If you're a twat and your mistakes are either making me look stupid or making loads more work for me then im not gonna hide it more than once

And you’re forgetting the dyslexia the OP has not disclosed to her workplace, while blaming her colleagues for finding her work notes difficult to decipher and not apparently according her the same concern they would show for an AIDS sufferer in Africa (deeply odd comparison made in a recent thread).

OP, respectfully, you need RL help in order to function in your various workplaces. Did you actually start teacher training, or is this a different job you’re having difficulties in?

@ThisSereneHiker this is at least your third thread on a snaky coworker, and just like all your hundreds of other threads under different usernames where you give next to no information people will not be able to help you if you don't give a full detail of what you are referring to and in what context and include information on your MH issues and autism which impact your daily interactions.

By all means post on MN so we can support you but for the love of god just do it on one thread with all the information.

Snakes? 🙄 Maybe don't be a shit employee, own your mistakes and stop blaming someone else actually doing their job.

I think it very much depends.

I reported a colleague to my manager, who escalated and the colleague will likely suffer career long ramifications.
But, colleague was haphazard and not doing the job properly, and someone could have died (it was very serious). The colleague was investigated by the governing body which leaves something of a 'black mark' on your professional record. It's his own fault.

However, I had tried the 'just talk to him' route. He brushed my concerns off a few times but this situation was one I could not let go.

People still say snitching.

I think it really depends on the context and what kind of thing is being reported.

We had someone who used to stalk around the building like one of the Scooby Doo detectives, trying to catch people out. Management would be told who was 5 minutes late back from lunch and who said what to who. Eventually everyone was fed up with her behaviour and avoided her as much as possible.

My main bugbear with people who go out of their way to find fault with others, is that the time they spend doing that is taken away from their own workload. For example, If someone has time to be going through the department "Sent" emails to critique the signatures that colleagues are using, they clearly aren't busy enough.

Everyone will make mistakes in the workplace. Everyone. My preferred approach is to help people identify and correct their mistakes themselves, rather than just reporting it to get them "in trouble". Some serious things have to be reported, but even then it often can be done in a supportive way.

When I read the title, I assumed you meant nasty colleagues who bully other staff members!! If you are referring to colleagues who are reporting poor/dangerous work-based incidents, then they are in the right! They have to report these things.

I work in healthcare, I HAVE to report/escalate anything that is not done correctly etc etc. It could mean life or death for a patient. I am not doing it to be a snitch, I'm doing it to ensure the safety of my patients (and also the colleagues I work with!). And if I'm not sure of something or have any concerns at all, I will ask/highlight/escalate. Far better to do that, and there's nothing to worry about, than not do it and there was a problem!!

In my job mistakes can cause significant safety risks, and I have a duty to raise any concerns. I’d rather people think I’m a “snake” than have a child die on my watch.

Maybe they agree with the "snitch" and think you deserved it 🤷‍♀️

Everyone will make mistakes in the workplace. Everyone. My preferred approach is to help people identify and correct their mistakes themselves, rather than just reporting it to get them "in trouble". Some serious things have to be reported, but even then it often can be done in a supportive way.

Most if not all people will be supportive of colleagues making errors in tasks that are new or low risk. Many colleagues will support a colleague learn a new piece of work and hand hold them through it, especially if it's high risk. But if it becomes a safety issue or a large financial risk to an organisation then most if not all companies have a process to follow when errors are discovered. Oftentimes it's not about getting someone into trouble it's about making sure the risks are minimised or nullified.

I’m always more interested how the childish shysters who don’t do their jobs properly and talk about “snitches” like they’re on the playground have friends…

Do your job properly and you won’t need to worry about it, and your colleagues won’t need to worry about also carrying your load for no extra pay or responsibility.

It makes me feel ancient to day this, but I find it's just how society is now from people's personal to working lives.
Not wanting to responsibility for their own lives, expecting to be hand held through everything from 'that's so unfair being asked to pay my bills, I spent my money on other things' to 'I'm not coming in on time for work, I need a lie in'....