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Renewing child passport question

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Tillow4ever · 08/11/2024 22:53

Hi,

My son had a passport issued when he was around 5 or 6 years old. It expired around 4 or 5 years ago off the top of my head (I will check exact details obviously) and he is now 16.

Do I need to do a new application with countersigned photo, or can I just do a renewal for him (technically he'll he applying himself) and submit his new photograph?

I had assumed it would need countersigning, but I saw a guide when looking at renewing my own passport (20 year old photo) and it says aging isn't considered a significant change - so would it be the same for kids does anyone know?

Thank you!

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LIZS · 08/11/2024 22:55

It would be an adult passport so think he needs a new photo countersigned.

dementedpixie · 08/11/2024 23:03

It depends if he could be recognised from the old photograph. You wouldnt normally need a signature for a 16 year old but it will depend whether the person dealing with the application thinks he looks significantly different from the old photo.

dementedpixie · 08/11/2024 23:05

So you could do the application as a renewal but you may or may not be asked for a countersignature

Tillow4ever · 08/11/2024 23:06

Thanks! What happens if we try the renewal and pay that price but they decide it needs a countersign? Do we just pay the difference and get what is needed, or do we have to start again and essentially pay twice?

Sorry for all the questions!

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bestbefore · 08/11/2024 23:10

Why don't you start the application online and see what happens?

dementedpixie · 08/11/2024 23:15

It doesn't cost more to get a countersignature. If it needs one they will ask for one

mejon · 08/11/2024 23:19

We renewed DD's passport earlier in the year (first adult one at 17). The old one was from when she was 9 or 10 and had expired. Did it all online and didn't need to get the photo countersigned.

dementedpixie · 08/11/2024 23:21

A first adult passport is for someone who has never ever had a passport before.

If you've have a passport then it's always a renewal you choose.

A renewal costs the same whether there is a countersignature or not.

liveforsummer · 08/11/2024 23:23

It will tell you online when you apply if it needs counter signed or not. I'd suspect yes given time frame. I've just done my 2 DC's who's had just expired. dd 14 didn't need hers signed. They must have the technology to compare and she has obvious similar features to 5 years ago. Dd 11 did as she was obviously young in her previous pic so less similar. Just go ahead and apply and follow the instructions

wibdib · 08/11/2024 23:30

I did this for ds a couple of years ago - and I also found it very confusing as they didn't make it very clear if you needed it countersigned or even if you were applying for a renewal or a first adult passport. This might not have been helped by the fact that when I was younger having a first adult passport was seen as a big deal - maybe these days it's not so much of a big thing (maybe more kids these days have passports and I don't think that kids get added onto their parent's passports any more as used to happen)

I know in the end I rang them up but I think that my assumption was that as he had had a child's passport previously he would need his first adult passport - but actually they treated it as a renewal so I had made the wrong assumption. I also hadn't sent the old passport in as for first adult passport they don't ask you to - but I got a message asking me to send it in for ds, which I did and it caught up with his application with no problems.

But I definitely think they need to put a table or decision diagram in the info to explain all the different options without people needing to assume anything!

dementedpixie · 08/11/2024 23:30

@liveforsummer under 12s need a signature as standard. It will likely not flag up to start with with OP but may ask for one once a person is dealing with the application.

Tillow4ever · 09/11/2024 10:57

dementedpixie · 08/11/2024 23:21

A first adult passport is for someone who has never ever had a passport before.

If you've have a passport then it's always a renewal you choose.

A renewal costs the same whether there is a countersignature or not.

This is what I thought about selecting renewal, thanks!

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Tillow4ever · 09/11/2024 10:57

mejon · 08/11/2024 23:19

We renewed DD's passport earlier in the year (first adult one at 17). The old one was from when she was 9 or 10 and had expired. Did it all online and didn't need to get the photo countersigned.

This is perfect - sounds like we should be ok just to submit his new photos then!

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Tillow4ever · 09/11/2024 10:59

liveforsummer · 08/11/2024 23:23

It will tell you online when you apply if it needs counter signed or not. I'd suspect yes given time frame. I've just done my 2 DC's who's had just expired. dd 14 didn't need hers signed. They must have the technology to compare and she has obvious similar features to 5 years ago. Dd 11 did as she was obviously young in her previous pic so less similar. Just go ahead and apply and follow the instructions

Thank you! I didn't know it would tell me that. Very useful! I wonder if it compares the photo you upload there and then? I did mine and I'm concerned that might come back as needing new signatures etc... although I've not changed except under and fatter

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Tillow4ever · 09/11/2024 10:59

*older not under

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Tillow4ever · 09/11/2024 11:00

dementedpixie · 08/11/2024 23:30

@liveforsummer under 12s need a signature as standard. It will likely not flag up to start with with OP but may ask for one once a person is dealing with the application.

Thank you!

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