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Where is my diet going wrong and keeping me obese?

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BoobsGalore · 03/11/2024 11:11

I am mid 50s. Weigh 94 kg.
Always been curvy, have lipedema (heavy diet -resistant legs) on HRT.
Spent years on low fat artificial sweetener type diets, now for the last 5 years eat less UPF, no low fat anything. Try to be reasonably low carb.

I am doing intermittent fasting (16/8) since early Aug and have lost 4.5 kg but it's painfully slow.
Tried mounjaro back in Spring but had to come off it after it triggered terrible panic attacks.

I am photographing my meals for my intermittent fasting app. Here is yesterday's food - spinach omelette for brunch and a bean and courgette stew for dinner. I had 2 slices of home made bread, a handful of mixed nuts, and an apple as well as what is pictured. Will add a couple of other days as well. Is it the carbs?

I have noticed I don't drink enough - about 1.5 litres a day of tea, coffee, diet coke (1 can a day, I think it's an addiction) and squash or water. Would that make a huge difference?

Where is my diet going wrong and keeping me obese?
Where is my diet going wrong and keeping me obese?
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NerdWhoEatsMedlar · 03/11/2024 17:32

BoobsGalore · 03/11/2024 17:19

I understand that, but I do think in general upfs do something to the body that is separate from their calorific content.

Is something like skyr, mentioned up thread, different from all the "fat free yogurts" I ate for 20 years?

Skyr is different. It is traditional Icelandic yoghurt. No nasties, read the label because some manufacturers will add any old shit, just get a plain one to try.

MissHalloween · 03/11/2024 17:40

Iagree that this would be an ideal calorie deficit for sustainable weight loss but I don't understand how you know this. Have you calculated her TDEE and her caloric intake based on the photos?

I worked out how many pounds she has lost, multiplied it by 3500 (the number of calories in a pound) and divided the number by the approximate weeks the OP has been on a diet.

I have no idea what a TDEE is.

orchid81 · 03/11/2024 17:58

If you add up the tea, coffee, Diet Coke, biscuits, nuts- you are taking on a lot of extra calories

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Lytlethings · 03/11/2024 18:01

bevelino · 03/11/2024 17:16

Diet coke has no calories.

Many studies have been linked to diet fizzy drinks and obesity. It is much more complex than calorie count.

ThanksItHasPockets · 03/11/2024 18:02

MissHalloween · 03/11/2024 17:40

Iagree that this would be an ideal calorie deficit for sustainable weight loss but I don't understand how you know this. Have you calculated her TDEE and her caloric intake based on the photos?

I worked out how many pounds she has lost, multiplied it by 3500 (the number of calories in a pound) and divided the number by the approximate weeks the OP has been on a diet.

I have no idea what a TDEE is.

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'Total daily energy expenditure', ie the number of calories that a person burns based on their height, weight, and activity level. Calorie deficit or surplus = TDEE - calories consumed.

I understand your rationale but I think your maths is a little off. A consistent 500kcal daily deficit from 4 August, for argument's sake as 'early August', would be 13 weeks and would equate to 13lb or just under 6kg lost.

I'm sure there must be AI tools which could calculate your calorie deficit, OP, but I'm not convinced that it's possible from a photo alone. If you would be prepared to find a way to track your calories manageably then this is likely to be helpful.

MissHalloween · 03/11/2024 18:09

understand your rationale but I think your maths is a little off. A consistent 500kcal daily deficit from 4 August, for argument's sake as 'early August', would be 13 weeks and would equate to 13lb or just under 6kg lost

My mistake I forgot it was an early August start, I thought late August for some reason and didn’t double check.

So the OP has been eating on average 410 calories per day less than her body needs.

SophieJo · 03/11/2024 18:23

amoreoamicizia · 03/11/2024 11:26

Whilst healthy, there's too much volume.

I thought that.

PaminaMozart · 03/11/2024 18:46

SophieJo · 03/11/2024 18:23

I thought that.

I disagree. @BoobsGalore's meals look delicious and healthy, though she could replace the refined carbs with vegetables and lentils - not just to reduce calories but also to control cravings.

And replace the snacks with some of those suggested by Dr Becky in my previous post.

Plus adding in some targetted weight bearing exercise - e.g. Growingannanas or Caroline Girvan - 3 to 4 times a week.

bevelino · 03/11/2024 19:01

Lytlethings · 03/11/2024 18:01

Many studies have been linked to diet fizzy drinks and obesity. It is much more complex than calorie count.

How?

NigelHarmansNewWife · 03/11/2024 19:09

Artificial sweeteners trigger the same responses as sugar so they don't stop sugar cravings. Better not to have them - drink water or fruit teas, etc.

Lytlethings · 03/11/2024 19:35

As I said it is complex. They looked at whether it is only that people who are obese that triggers them to drink diet drinks or whether drinking them caused it. There were experiments on rats by giving some fizzy diet drinks and others water. They checked their gut bacteria and faecis and found that the artificial sweeteners broke down in different ways. This led to cravings for other sugars.

BoobsGalore · 03/11/2024 19:35

Tonight's dinner
Chicken bhuna
1 tbsp rice (so I don't feel hard done to)
Wholemeal wrap

Where is my diet going wrong and keeping me obese?
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ThanksItHasPockets · 03/11/2024 19:46

I don’t want to be a portion twat but that’s considerably more than a tablespoon of rice, OP. Your dollop of mango chutney (if that’s what it is) is approx 1 tbsp.

Gwenhwyfar · 03/11/2024 19:59

Moonshiners · 03/11/2024 11:16

I have yet to meet anyone that drinks diet coke every day and isn't overweight.
I think it does something to ones metabolism.

Pleased to meet you.
Overweight people sometimes drink diet coke, but it's not the diet coke that's making them overweight.

Also, it seems to me that OP drinks enough liquids overall.

Gwenhwyfar · 03/11/2024 20:04

Gloriana1 · 03/11/2024 12:32

I have to say, I've never dieted.

I do think that dieting makes you larger.

It's a cycle.

How is this useful to OP?

Faye3by · 03/11/2024 20:06

I understand that many of us will want to give advise but sometimes weight loss can be complicated and only professional assistance brings results. There is a weight loss coach on total-holistic.com who saved my life. Check it out and thank me later. He does not charge an arm and a leg either.

Gwenhwyfar · 03/11/2024 20:07

DisplayPurposesOnly · 03/11/2024 13:43

honestly Diet Coke/soda is an absolute killer for weight loss. Artificial sweeteners completely fk up your metabolism and interfere hugely with the signals from your brain regulating appetite. You need to ditch the soda and squash - plain water only

Again, I will point to my 18kg weight loss whilst drinking diet coke and sweeteners. I don't like plain water and this is how I keep up my liquid intake.

It might be an issue for some people but it doesn't appear to be a hard rule for everyone.

Meanwhile back to the OP, I agree it would be prudent to look at portion sizes of calorie dense food. Milk in tea & coffee adds up. Cakes, obviously (likely 300 to 500 calories). Nuts.

Yes, I don't think Diet Coke is good, but I don't believe all the stuff people say about it. It has no calories and is not what's making OP obese.

In addition, a life of plain water only would drive me to despair!

Gwenhwyfar · 03/11/2024 20:08

rickyrickygrimes · 03/11/2024 14:28

Your meals look very healthy and you are losing weight. But if you want to lose more quickly I would:

Drop the DC
Drop the biscuits
Drop the bread
Drop the wraps
Drop the potatoes

And replace them with more protein (eggs, chicken, fish) and salad. And drink only water.

She has to have a life though.

Gwenhwyfar · 03/11/2024 20:11

BoobsGalore · 03/11/2024 17:19

I understand that, but I do think in general upfs do something to the body that is separate from their calorific content.

Is something like skyr, mentioned up thread, different from all the "fat free yogurts" I ate for 20 years?

There's nothing wrong with plain yogurt or plain skyr. Skyr has more protein so I suppose it's a bit better for weightloss.

Gwenhwyfar · 03/11/2024 20:14

orchid81 · 03/11/2024 17:58

If you add up the tea, coffee, Diet Coke, biscuits, nuts- you are taking on a lot of extra calories

Tea has almost no calories if no milk or sugar.
Plain coffee doesn't have much.
Diet Coke doesn't have any.
Biscuits I agree are not good for every day.
Nuts are very good for you so a little bit is OK, but I agree they are calorific.

rainbowunicorn · 03/11/2024 20:14

BoobsGalore · 03/11/2024 19:35

Tonight's dinner
Chicken bhuna
1 tbsp rice (so I don't feel hard done to)
Wholemeal wrap

That's much more than a tablespoon of rice. There's probably between 200.and 300 calories in the rice alone. When talking in tablespoons it is an actual measurement of around 15 ml rather than a big spoon or a serving spoon.

Thischangeseverything · 03/11/2024 20:16

I'd cut out Diet Coke. I know someone who was obese and lost masses of weight just by stopping her Diet Coke habit (although she was drinking more than you every day. It's awful for you).

Gwenhwyfar · 03/11/2024 20:16

Lytlethings · 03/11/2024 18:01

Many studies have been linked to diet fizzy drinks and obesity. It is much more complex than calorie count.

A link coud be an association and not a cause. I don't believe the studies are conclusive either.

Gwenhwyfar · 03/11/2024 20:18

NigelHarmansNewWife · 03/11/2024 19:09

Artificial sweeteners trigger the same responses as sugar so they don't stop sugar cravings. Better not to have them - drink water or fruit teas, etc.

Careful with fruit teas and the teeth. If you're going to be fussy about calorie free drinks...

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