What do you pay your cleaner per hour?

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And have they put their prices up recently?

Oh! And that’s through agency so we pay agency fee on top 🤷‍♀️ but 20 is what she gets

Perhaps you are underpaying your nanny?
15 is not exactly coining it in. Take out fuel, products, holidays, accounting fees, insurance. I was a self employed cleaner and yes I did pay for an accountant. You can always set up as a cleaner if you think it's so lucrative.

@Ilovegoldies love when people say this. I ask for the price, they give it to me. And it's the same rate for everyone in my part of London. I guess I should say, no no I want to pay more pls 😂

@whatcanthematterbe81 That's a very low rate for a nanny. We paid £20 an hour ten years ago. Plus annual leave, sickness, insurance, pension etc. Is she qualified/ experienced?

@DieDreiHexen lucky me then :-)

@DieDreiHexen very experienced with all relevant qualifications. She's amazing

I don't understand this because when you explore a nanny you as her employer set her salary, not ask her rate.

You are underpaying your nanny

as you say, looking after two actual humans who I assume are the most important things in your life?
Yet paying not far off basic living wage.

@DieDreiHexen obviously you did. I didn't. I wanted to make sure she was happy with her rate so I asked what she wanted. Not everything has to happen how you do life you know

@Soyare oh no

It isn’t just the hourly rate that matters - it’s the number of guaranteed weekly hours too.
We continue paying our cleaner when she goes on holiday a couple of times a year. We pay her over the two week Xmas period but she doesn’t need to come. We paid her throughout the lockdowns. We pay her if we’re on holiday and she’s cleaning a house that no one has been in since she last cleaned it.

We also pay her for four hours so she can go slower (we’ve had her decades and she’s getting on a bit) when realistically we know most people with a house our size pay for 3 hours.

@whatcanthematterbe81 Things do not always have to happen in the way that I do life, but it is usual for things to happen within the broad conventions of employment law.

Eek

Wow, that's low.

I feel like people get weirdly paternalistic about cleaners and nannies. Like they are too stupid to make their own decisions.

With a self employed cleaner - they decide how much to charge. Like with any self employed person.

With an employed nanny - you advertise the job with the salary and other benefits and they get to decide if they want to apply. If no one applies, you up the salary and try again. That's just how the job market works - supply and demand.

With both - if you value them and want to keep them, you might offer bonuses, Christmas presents, etc.

£20ph Ilkley

£13 an hour, SE. Double wages at Christmas and a box of chocolates on her birthday.

Seems from this thread I am under paying ?

£15, south West Wales. She has put her prices up for new customers. I think to £17.

My cleaner has been with us 10 years.
She stared out charging £10phr
Then put it up to £13.50 after a few years.
Then a couple of years ago she asked for £15
This week she's asking for £17.50
I will of course pay her as I want to still have her.

My salary hasn't increased by 60% in this time though....

Salary and self employed,, particularly low skilled/low paid like cleaning cannot be compared like for like. The costs of every aspect of running a business have jumped hugely, and she's certainly not getting £17.50 in her pocket for every hour she works. She can't even get a full 8 hour day's pay like you do so don't be resentful please.

The median salary hasn't risen by much lately, but the minimum wage has risen considerably in the last 10-15 years, so people on or just above it have seen big wage rises.
The thing to bear in mind is that people on low wages (and especially low paid self employed people) have far fewer choices than median wage earners.
Fuel, food, rent, bills have all gone up considerably and if you can't cut any discretionary spending your options are limited to working more hours or getting more per hour you can work.

no thats just wrong to pay her so little

£15 East Midlands

£17.50 an hour, London. Includes weekly payment whether cleaner is on holiday or sick or we are away as well as a Christmas bonus.

12.50. I had a cleaner before who lasted 1 clean because she was recommend by a friend who used her. Cleaner told me she charges 15-20 an hour. First time she came she was here 3 hours and I gave her £50 (she bizarrely asked me how much I thought the cleaning was worth?!) so I thought ok we’ve settled on £17 an hour that’s fine. The following week she text and said it would be £20 an hour. (My husband called it the Porsche tax because we had a Porsche Jeep at the time). I thought £20 an hour was a bit much so I text the friend who recommended the cleaner….she charged them £12 an hour and was trying to charge me £20?

would’ve been different even if she said she was putting prices upto £15 for new customers, fair enough but an £8 an hour difference?? Mental.

edited to say this is in Ireland