How do you pronounce these words?

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pull= rhymes with fool/tool
butch= rhymes with mooch
mary= meary as opposed to merry
pitta= pita rather then peeta
hour= ar

You’re right.

Pull - rhymes with wool
Butch - don’t really know how to spell the pronunciation buhtch maybe?
Mary - mair ree
pitta - pit er
hour - ow (as in ouch) er

Hour and our both sound like flower. With a were sound at the end (not to be confused with we're sound which sounds like weir) so also not flower like it sounds to me when a southerner says it, as in flaahhh 🤣😂

In linguistics, these sounds are referred to as merged - for example in Scots cot/caught; pool/pull and aunt/ant all sound exactly the same. Still causes much hilarity in my now southern life!

@UpOnTheHousetop I’m a southerner who pronounces hour/our/flower the same as you!

So it’s two syllables, the first one is ‘ow’ like when you hurt yourself and the second is a flat vowel sound (called a schwa in linguistics I think). It’s like the first vowel sound in again and about.

Though thinking about it, I think ‘our’ is a bit different for me. More like ‘are’.

But hour and flower definitely rhyme and have two syllables.

pull= rhymes with fool/tool
butch= rhymes with mooch
mary= meary as opposed to merry
pitta= pita rather then peeta
hour= ar

Pull - p-uh-l - rhymes with mull/cull/dull
Butch - b-uh-ch - rhymes with much/such/hutch
Mary - m-air-ee - rhymes with fairy/hairy/lairy
Pitta - p-i-t-uh - rhymes with bitter/sitter/litter
Hour - ow-er - rhymes with flour/sour/power

West Yorkshire

Derry Girl?

Hull rhymes with skull.
Bull rhymes with pull or full.
Fool and pool have a longer sound.

Same for me- Northern (mix of Yorks/Mancunian)

Can anyone produce recorded evidence of butch pronounced like much? I'm going to stick my neck out and refuse to believe it otherwise.

I find all the UK accents fascinating but are still amazed that some people don't realise that they exist. I'm often asked where I'm from as I am Scottish but not with a commonly heard accent.

I say these the same as you.
Im a Londoner, now living more rurally.
Butch would rhyme with Welsh cwtch (assuming I have been given the correct pronunciation of the latter).

The two butch pronunciations are buhh-tch which rhymes with much vs boo-tch.

Yes, and until hear evidence I don't believe the 'rhymes with much' one.

Why don't you believe people describing how they themselves speak?

@Waitingfordoggo probably a bit (a lot!) ignorant of me to lump all southern accents as one 😳

My hour and flower are like yours but also my our. I pronounce hour and our as exactly the same word, like ow-wer.

@MorrisZapp is there a way for us all to record ourselves and post the audio on here? That would be fun!

Yes, obviously the people who say butch rhymes with much do pronounce them both with a longer vowel sound where they are from. In the South(and possibly some other bits of UK, I don't know) they are pronounced differently from each other.

They no doubt pronounce "much" differently from you!

It doesn't!
I was quoting someone else - sorry that's confusing!
My answer was below what they said.

I would pronounce hour:
Ow er

I'm a phonetician. I would like to introduce this thread of my fellow sound nerds to this - the KIT List Lexical sets. https://www.yorku.ca/earmstro/courses/phonetics/lexical_sets.pdf

This groups words according to how they behave in different accents. For example in Southern British THOUGHT and LOT have a different vowel, whereas in a standard American they merge to TH-AAH-T and L-AAH-T.

@MorrisZapp BUTCH and MUCH rhyming seems impossible if in your accent BUTCH has a FOOT vowel and MUCH has a STRUT vowel, but in many regional accents MUCH and BUTCH merge to FOOT.

I guess it depends on the pronunciation of much. If I imagine much or such in a West Midlands accent, it sounds much more like the way I would pronounce butch.

When I moved south the thing I got told off for the most was tongue, which o had learned as tong, not tung. Even now, I hesitate before saying it out loud.

This is fascinating, but trying to draw oral/aural parallels between two words when neither has a fixed pronunciation and isn't spelt using a universal phonetic alphabet doesn't really work!

So you say, "I pronounce 'butch' to rhyme with 'much'," and I respond, "But how do you pronounce 'much'?" and you say, "Er, to rhyme with 'butch'." 😄

What annoys me is when people can't separate their pronunciation from the spelling, so people write things like, "It's non of your business" or "It's none existent."

Pull = to rhyme with full
Butch = like in Butcher
Mary = rhymes with fairy
Pitta = pita
Hour = aw-er (the a like in as)