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Solve me a Christmas riddle! (Food related)

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snowballer · 24/10/2024 09:53

We have one oven. A totally bog standard, normal, single oven with two shelves and an internal grill.

This year, I have 12 people for Christmas Day - 7 adults and 5 kids aged from 6-12.

How the hell am I going to actually cook dinner for 12?! I have done 9 from it in the past, but the extra three is sending me over the edge! I'm a pretty competent cook so suspect this is about timing and prep, but the fact the turkey takes up the whole oven for around 3.5 hours is rather awkward. (Must have turkey, must be whole bird - just preference).

Hit me with your incredible ideas! 🙏

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Lwrenn · 24/10/2024 10:43

Ooh let's go! I live for making Christmas Dinner, it's actually my favourite thing to do, I wrote a post last year explaining I used to make dinner for the girls I worked with and their kiddos (loads of single mums working in a nursing home, basically I'd have the kids dropped to me of a morning and the girls would cover my shift, I'd do the kiddos a festive breakfast and crack on with getting dinner sorted for years! Sometimes if there was a grandma who would be alone then they'd come over and help me with all the kids, it was like a ww2 christmas scene 😂) so loads of different dishes is your friend here, because you can make it look really special but without loads of mess. This is my suggestions and if you have a tight budget it's great to make from scratch when the veggies all go cheap and all the dishes are easy to do.
If you don't have a slow cooker or a air fryer someone will so get borrowing! I'll leave you some recipes if you want, just @ me and I'll dig them out for you.

The turkey needs as long to rest as it does to cook, cover it in tinfoil tightly and stick tea towels over it, that will keep the heat and the bird retains juices.
If you have an air fryer it will be invaluable for pigs in blankets.
You can pre make vegetable mash and normal mash, I add truffle cheese (aldi does a cheddar truffle cheese and sainsburys do also) and they freeze well but I add mine to foil trays once they're made and cover in foil (foil in all it's forms will be your buddy here and they can sit bottom of the oven on a baking tray to heat through when things are cooking.
Roasties you can either cook the night before or just peel and parboil, however I tend to make loads of roasties cooked in goosefat and once cooked drain most of the fat, but not all if reheating, so they get a thin layer of fat form around the spud but once reheated crisps up. They also reheat tremendously and quickly in the air fryer.
Slow cooker - braised red cabbage with a nice sharp apple sliced up, red onion and christmas spices.
Foil trays - honey and mustard parsnips and carrots again can be reheated if you just roast the day prior and add honey and mustard on the actual day to reheat so honey doesn't burn.
I do sprouts with pancetta and chestnuts in my wok, again I make the day before and just heat up on the wok.
Stuffing, I cheat and buy the fancy packs (2 for £3 in tesco) and add sausage meat so I have 2 different kinds, I make stuffing balls and add slices of apple or a few cranberries on top and rosemary or thyme sprigs to look festive. I tried making a stuffing wreath but I look a bit shit so I stick with parcels/balls.
A cauliflower cheese/vegetable gratin in a foil tray, don't boil cauliflower or brocoli or leeks, roast a day earlier in a small amount of oil and seasoning, (s&p or maggi liquid seasoning is game changing!) And then pour over your cheese sauce, again that will last in fridge for days and can be heated up and coveted in foil for ages with the tea towel trick.
For 12 people and because the foil trays can all be piled up on one another in the oven the days prior to Xmas day I'd consider making a dauphinous tattys, so impressive and so easy to make. I make mine in a pan, leave it overnight in the fridge so it's not too liquidy and reheat in pan, bung under grill with brie or gryre and again, wrap tightly in foil and just let the over keep everything hot.
Gravy I use Jamie Olivers chicken wing gravy recipe, make more than you think you'll need and have it in a pan on stove top (because everything is being kept warm in oven your stove top is mostly free for gravy and bread sauce) and add those glorious turkey juices from its rest and reduce it until it tastes amazing!)
I think sprouts in wok, gravy and bread sauce are the only things I use my hob for but if someone fussy wants plain boiled veg I have a spare ring free on the hob)
If you make Yorkshire puds (I have a recipe for that should you want it!) I do mine Xmas eve and just reheat them when I'm unwrapping my endless foil trays, I carve the turkey before this and the pigs in blankets and stuffing are all being kept warm by more foil and teatowels.

Starters you want something easy but I don't do a starter, I do nowadays a festive looking charcuterie board for people to graze on until the main meal.

I make a Christmas cake months in advance, have mince pies and a shop bought Xmas pudding and brandy cream in and a chocolate yule log with cream for the kids. Nothing remotely strenuous for pud.

I used to make my own cranberry and apple and mint sauces but it's cheaper and nicer to buy shop bought (not as poncetastic though)

But foil trays, tea towels and preparation will make it so much easier and the more dishes you make that just need warming through the easier it is.

I get lots of cans of coke and kids drinks and keep the booze in the garden to keep cold and keep kids from under my feet.

Also if you're doing breakfast for the day just buy pastries and give everyone butter, jam and Nutella with some bucks fizz and coffee or, if you feel fancy hot chocolate with baileys for adults and some cream with a chocolate coin on top and candy cane for the kids. We don't drink so we have entirely booze free Christmas for us but I get in amaretto and aldi baileys and bucks fizz for guests. If they bring beer etc that needs chilling it goes in the garden and keeps out my way.

flapjackfairy · 24/10/2024 10:48

I actually have a 70s hostess trolley I bought second hand for 20 quid ! . I have a big family and it is brilliant at Christmas.

peachescariad · 24/10/2024 10:49

Blimey! Lwrenn I'm going to have to print out your reply and stick it on my fridge! 🙏

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CrazyAndSagittarius · 24/10/2024 10:50

flapjackfairy · 24/10/2024 10:48

I actually have a 70s hostess trolley I bought second hand for 20 quid ! . I have a big family and it is brilliant at Christmas.

I am jealous. I so want an old school hostess trolley (although not sure where I'd put it!!!)

Howtonamechange · 24/10/2024 10:53

Imperrysmum · 24/10/2024 10:36

For those who clicked on this hoping for an actual christmas riddle, here you go;

What’s black when you get it, red when you use it and grey when you discard it? 🤔

A coal!

SprigatitoYouAndIKnow · 24/10/2024 10:53

Imperrysmum · 24/10/2024 10:36

For those who clicked on this hoping for an actual christmas riddle, here you go;

What’s black when you get it, red when you use it and grey when you discard it? 🤔

Coal! In your stocking if you are lucky, given the price of heating these days.

Op, check your microwave settings, as mine has a grill and convection oven too. Never use it on purpose, but occasionally accidentally press the grill button and accidentally melt some plastic.

Davros · 24/10/2024 10:58

My sister used to do the turkey on the barbecue when we had a crowd. It freed up the oven, cooked quite quickly and tasted lovely. I can't eat part cooked starch/carbs which are then finished later (FODMAP), gives me stomach pains. So I can be a problem guest although I keep quiet and work round it

snowballer · 24/10/2024 10:59

peachescariad · 24/10/2024 10:49

Blimey! Lwrenn I'm going to have to print out your reply and stick it on my fridge! 🙏

Ditto! Thank you so much @Lwrenn - this is amazing!

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Lwrenn · 24/10/2024 11:01

peachescariad · 24/10/2024 10:49

Blimey! Lwrenn I'm going to have to print out your reply and stick it on my fridge! 🙏

If you need any recipes just let me know, they're all super easy and because most things are reheated I'm able to cook it in a small oven, most I ever had was 16 over I think and because of the dishes for veggie guests I made veggie stuffing with defrosted Linda McCartney sausages and mushrooms. Supermarkets now have some lovely veggie/vegan centrepieces and a few changes such as olive oil roasties etc make it a more inclusive meal.
My favourite Xmas Dinner we had a Muslim nurse and my local halal butcher was selling massive lovely quality turkey for less than a tenner and we just had veggie stuffing and I didn't cook pigs in blankets etc just to make sure nothing contaminated. It was my favourite one, that christmas 🎄

Cestfoutu · 24/10/2024 11:01

Lots of people suggesting what I have done in the past, but I have also made the Yorkshire puddings in advance (even frozen them) and then they just need 5 minutes in the oven to heat up on the day. Saves a lot of space as can go in the oven while you're playing things up. Good luck!

hushabybaby · 24/10/2024 11:03

I always do Raymond Blancs turkey cooking times, free oven for up to 2 hours

You can make quite a few thing ahead of time and heat up.

Delia loves a feeeze ahead recipe

Lwrenn · 24/10/2024 11:08

Ah celebrity chefs Christmas tricks are amazing. I'd love to make a nigellaesque pavlova or cheesecake but my friends and family are heathens and only like chocolate cake. The kids luckily beaides one love fruit cake and marzipan or I'd be raging 😂

AllTangledUpInTinselAndTiaras · 24/10/2024 11:09

Sorry if people have already answered this but your turkey can, and should, stand for at least an hour and a half to rest.

Which leaves you lots of time to roast potatoes and sides.

We always do one side that can be done in advance and reheated - our choice is braised red cabbage because it isn't impaired by microwave heating. Then we do one or two sides that are done on the hob, plus whatever sides are roasted.

Works brilliantly.

BuzzieLittleBee · 24/10/2024 11:09

Definitely par boil (and fluff up) potatoes now, and get them in the freezer. They can go in the oven from frozen.

I do mashed parsnips rather than roasted, so that saves a bit of oven space.

Pigs in blankets and stuffing balls go in the oven.

Yorkshires (if you must, although they have no place on a turkey dinner IMO!) can also go in.

You should be able to get 3 shelves in an oven if they're all just using shallow trays, so that's one for pots, one for PIB and one for yorkshires.

Red cabbage is braised and frozen, and then reheated - I've used the slow cooker for this.

Everything else is on the hob - sprouts and one other green veg is all we have here (that's 4 veg in total with red cabbage and parsnips).

If you have/get an air fryer then that would be PIB taken care of for me.

Do you have a microwave? If so I'd use that to warm the plates. That's the only thing I use my top oven for - everything else goes in the bottom oven, so I'm essentially doing the same as you - just doing everything in one oven.

AllTangledUpInTinselAndTiaras · 24/10/2024 11:15

Don't pre-roast potatoes. But you can parboil, leave to steam dry, fluff up and toss in goose fat, then leave them to roast the next day.

SeaToSki · 24/10/2024 11:23

Pre cook your stuffing and pigs in blankets to 75% done, then freeze them. Take out on Xmas eve to defrost and then blast them for 15/20 mins in the oven once the turkey is out

use disposable foil trays for everything

test run your oven with trays when it is cold, so you know what height to put your racks on when you shuffle from turkey set up to potato set up

get electric warming plates / trays that do hot and warm…then you can keep things really hot on them for ages

mitogoshigg · 24/10/2024 11:24

You can parboil potatoes until almost cooked so they only take 20 mins to crisp in a hot oven. If you wanted roasted vegetables you can cook day before and heat through for 10 mins (make at room temperature for 1-2 hours prior to speed up heating through) if you want Yorkshires precook or use frozen, which cook in 3 minutes. Make sure sides are either cook on hob (eg red cabbage is delicious and hob cooks) or steam using a n electric steamer or in microwave.

Ive done it, logistically it isn't easy but write down your timings and have lots of turkey foil so you can wrap and rest under an old towel for an hour whilst you do the other bits. Have cold desserts, microwaveable desserts or things that cook whilst you are eating

TentEntWenTyfOur · 24/10/2024 11:24

@snowballer What time will you be serving the dinner?

viques · 24/10/2024 11:25

mumonthehill · 24/10/2024 10:01

par boil potatoes then shake then in the pan with a bit of flour and then lay out so they can dry. They will crisp up the next day. Pre make or pre buy stuffing and put in with potatoes. If you are doing cauliflower cheese, pre cook it and reheat in a microwave if you have one. Pre make gravy so you just need to heat it up.

Better still, don’t do cauliflower cheese, it has no place on a Christmas dinner plate!🙂

AllTangledUpInTinselAndTiaras · 24/10/2024 11:26

Oh that's a great question! If you don't already do it in the afternoon/evening, I'd definitely shift it! It makes things so much easier and less stressful.

Lap91 · 24/10/2024 11:26

If you like homemade Yorkshire, make them in advance and freeze them. Then you can cook them from frozen (a la Aunt Bessie) in 4-5 mins at the end while you're dishing up!

mitogoshigg · 24/10/2024 11:26

Or and a tray of chipolatas/pigs in blankets can cook whilst stuffing is on other shelf. Precook cauliflower cheese day before and throw into oven whilst dishing up from room temperature.

CoastalCalm · 24/10/2024 11:30

Cook most things 90% the night before , refresh the veg with iced water then store covered in a cold garage or shed - add butter to carrots for example and microwave to finish off

Roasties can be finished in hot oven same with Yorkshire puddings if used , stuffing balls etc

once the turkey is out wrap well and leave for an hour to rest while you finish everything else off

madaboutpurple · 24/10/2024 11:38

Why not ask all the people coming to bring some veg with them that just needs heating up. You would need to be able to rely on everyone doing whatever they agreed to.

FudgeSundae · 24/10/2024 11:39

Can you grill the sausages or pigs in blankets?

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