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A driving question with diagram

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Verbena193 · 23/10/2024 07:55

Mini round about,

I'm car C, I want to turn right, I'm indicating right.

Car A isn't indicating,

Car B isn't indicating,

All cars are stopped.

Car B driver starts getting pissed off with me, waving/gesticulating wildly, looks like he's swearing.

I gesture back that he needs to indicate. He gets angrier but is still stationary and is now waving me to go.

I move off as he clearly isn't going to. He shakes his head at me.

Was I wrong? If he'd been indicating left I would have moved off. If he'd been indicating right, i would have waited. As he wasn't indicating I waited.

A driving question with diagram
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Verbena193 · 23/10/2024 08:34

PuppyMonkey · 23/10/2024 08:33

You give way to the right so it was his right of way wether he was on the round about or at the junction

He was giving way to the person on his right though. Car A.

Correct.

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Verbena193 · 23/10/2024 08:35

Soontobe60 · 23/10/2024 08:34

Because the indicator to turn right is on the right of a vehicle, and as you were on the left of the vehicle, you would not have been able to see.

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No that's not correct. I could see his indicators, you can see the front on a car at a round about. That's a bit odd that you think you can't.

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PuppyMonkey · 23/10/2024 08:44

So given he’d stopped for car A, you could go.

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RB68 · 23/10/2024 09:06

Technically you can all proceed as if you were all doing the same speed you would dance around the roundabout to your exit, indicating is not a legal requirement as such, I think the wording is that you should indicate "if able to do so" (clearly he should have been in this instance as he wasn't exactly doing anything other than waving his arms as an arse). We have a roundabout similar near us - but it has a two lane approach on one side - no one uses it properly which is a nightmare for learners as its part of the test route and they are constantly cut up on it

WhistPie · 23/10/2024 09:41

Soontobe60 · 23/10/2024 08:34

Because the indicator to turn right is on the right of a vehicle, and as you were on the left of the vehicle, you would not have been able to see.

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I take it that you don't drive? On a mini roundabout it's generally very easy to see both of everyone's indicators.

LookItsMeAgain · 23/10/2024 09:51

If you all approached the mini roundabout at the same time, I would have said that A should have gone first, then B and then C - but only if you all arrived at the same time and that it's a mini roundabout. If the roundabout was larger it should have been possible for two cars to be on the roundabout at the same time.

In your situation, I would have wound down my window and shouted to Car B - "Which way are you going mate - I can't see your indicator and I'm waiting for you".

By the sounds of it Car B should have used their indicators but didn't and that is what caused the issue here.

YellowphantGrey · 23/10/2024 11:59

LookItsMeAgain · 23/10/2024 09:51

If you all approached the mini roundabout at the same time, I would have said that A should have gone first, then B and then C - but only if you all arrived at the same time and that it's a mini roundabout. If the roundabout was larger it should have been possible for two cars to be on the roundabout at the same time.

In your situation, I would have wound down my window and shouted to Car B - "Which way are you going mate - I can't see your indicator and I'm waiting for you".

By the sounds of it Car B should have used their indicators but didn't and that is what caused the issue here.

Depends if A was using their indicators as B would need to give way to them and depending on where A was going would dictate what C should do.

I don't think I've ever, in my 26 years of driving been in a situation where 3 cars have all arrived at the start of an island, not been indicating and all sat there waiting?!

timenowplease · 23/10/2024 12:28

Why are PPs making up their own rules of the road? No wonder there's such shit driving.

You give way to traffic on the RIGHT at a roundabout. That is all. You wait your turn. You indicate right or left unless going straight ahead in which case no indication but you are giving right of way to all traffic coming from the right.

In the OP's case there was no straight ahead so car B is being a dickhead as he should be indicating. Car A could be coming straight across as they aren't indicating. Car B was probably giving way to them? Was Car A giving way to car C? Who the fuck knows.

All the 'whoever gets there first' or 'main road/side road' is confusing things and is incorrect and dangerous.

TentEntWenTyfOur · 23/10/2024 12:46

B was being a twat. If he'd been turning left and car A had already stopped, then B could have gone anyway, so that means that he intended to turn right but wasn't indicating, and had stopped for car A.

A had seen you indicating right, and had stopped to give way to you. They must have been going straight on because they could have turned left with plenty of time before your turn.

You stopped (rightly) because you can't manouevre without knowing whether it is safe to go or not, and you didn't know because B wasn't indicating.

In this case if I were driving car C, arrived at the roundabout last and B&A were both at a standstill like a pair of lemons, then I would have gone.

LlynTegid · 23/10/2024 13:15

Is Car B an Audi or a BMW? Especially the latter, the driver may not know about how to use an indicator.

LookItsMeAgain · 23/10/2024 13:20

LlynTegid · 23/10/2024 13:15

Is Car B an Audi or a BMW? Especially the latter, the driver may not know about how to use an indicator.

I'd throw in Landrover Discovery or any sort of electric vehicle as you know that those sort of pesky things like indicators are such a drain on the battery (joking)

Blarn · 23/10/2024 13:30

If car A was not indicating they were probably (probably!) going straight over. So B could not go. And if you were indicating right then car A was waiting for you to go. But I'm sure everyone has had near misses on roundabouts with cars not indicating but actually turning instead of going straight on.

MontyDonsBlueScarf · 23/10/2024 13:41

Mini roundabouts demand more than slavish adherence to rules. Because they're so small you often have to pay attention to how much turning space the other vehicles actually need and whether you staying where you are makes things better or worse for them. Round here there's one with poor visibility until you're actually on it, compounded by delivery vehicles stopping on two of the three approach roads. Sometimes you can be the last to arrive but you have to be the first to move because at that point nobody else can. The only thing that works is sensitivity and consideration for other road users.

I don't think B was necessarily being a twat for stopping but he was definitely being a twat for being rude to you.

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