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Boyfriend’s Behaviour - Should I Be Concerned?

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usernew1234 · 06/10/2024 13:14

I’m 25 and my boyfriend is 26. We’ve just celebrated our 3rd anniversary and everything in our lives is so far going well. I love him, feel comfortable around him like I have with nobody else, trust him and genuinely feel like he’s my closest friend. We’re almost inseparable and have a healthy communication style (for context, he’s also my first boyfriend).

There’d been no problems in our relationship or reason for me to doubt his trust, up until June of this year. He went away to another city for a couple of nights with two of his friends - they went to a concert and stayed together in an apartment. Anyway, he came home and all was normal - I didn’t think anything of it.

A couple of days later, I had a strange inkling. I don’t know why exactly, but I just thought I’d check his phone out (some may think this is wrong, and yes I can admit that I invaded his privacy). He’d been talking about his weekend non-stop and came home on such a high, showing me pictures of all the people he’d met and hung out with and how much fun they’d all had.

Anyway, I looked through his messages and saw a conversation thread with his best friend on WhatsApp, who also accompanied him on the trip. There was a girl - let’s refer to her as ‘Hannah’ (not her real name) - who he’d met early hours of the day he was due to drive home. They met after the concert, as they’d all be out drinking and roaming the streets. There were 6 of them in total - my boyfriend and his two pals, and ‘Hannah’ and her two friends.

On the message thread, my boyfriend was confiding in his best friend. Referring to ‘Hannah’, he said that he wanted to reach out to her and have her as a pen-pal and was worried about whether or not he should text her, thinking it could be wrong of him. Her full name and work address was stored in a locked note on his phone, and he said he was considering sending a gift to her work address with his return address on it, so that she could send something back. He was talking to his friend about them all potentially meeting up, and going to visit her and her friends at her work place (a casino in another city). To top it off, he said he was confused about the way he feels and that he “falls in love at the drop of a hat”.

When I read these messages, my stomach turned. I felt angry, silly and betrayed. I confronted him immediately and didn’t speak to or see him for 4 days. He slept outside my house in his car, would constantly call and text, and begged for a chance to explain himself. The thought of him losing me made him spiral. Anyway, we talked about it and I won’t get into the nitty gritty of if it all, but things are seemingly fine now. However, I just cannot stop thinking about it. I guess the doubt has been implemented and it’ll always be there - what happens if another girl gives him attention and he becomes entangled? I don’t think he would have cheated on me if he went to visit ‘Hannah’ and her friends, but I do think he would have become infatuated and wouldn’t have been able to stop thinking about her.

What do you guys think? I don’t know how to feel, really. When I wrote about him wanting to send her a gift, he actually asked me how he’d go about posting it, pretending that it was going to one of his old work mates who moved to another company. Any advice would be helpful.

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Quesions · 07/10/2024 17:17

CryptoFascist · 07/10/2024 17:02

There are many twats like this about.

They are in a long term relationship, but suddenly meet an attractive woman (it's always an attractive woman) who they want to be "friends" with. They tell themselves, and their girlfriend that they are just friends and, hey, you're not so uncool and sexist that I can't have friends of the opposite sex are you?!

They just want the thrill of an affair/falling in love, without being brave enough to end their secure relationship. It's pathetic.

Count your lucky stars you saw the messages you did, and don't move in with him. There will be another "friend", then another and another.

💯 this

Megifer · 07/10/2024 17:17

mewkins · 07/10/2024 16:36

I'd dump him for this alone.

Same! That comment stuck out so much....proper emotional blackmail "ooooh....that means what we've had hasn't been love but something tumultuous and blah blah blah naval gaze blah"

Get him in the sea op. He sounds really strange. Who wants to send a gift to a womans work he's known for a few hours? Fucking weirdo.

usernew1234 · 07/10/2024 17:21

DontBother123 · 07/10/2024 17:14

His behaviour is weird and frankly creepy. Tracking down some random women he met on a night ou tand sending her gifts to her workplace (one assumes because that's the only way he has to reach her) would be weird and creepy even if he was single. It's x10000 because he's NOT single.

I agree. He sounds like a weird creep.

Op were his friends even a little bit surprised by his creepy perceived connection with a total stranger?

His friend said something along the lines of “she seemed like a sound lass, it’s just friendly banter and you wouldn’t be crossing any boundaries” because they got along well, apparently. Three hours this lot spent together. Imagine what it’d have been like if they all met each other the first day.

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QueenBitch666 · 07/10/2024 17:22

He sounds a bit creepy tbh. Get rid

Megifer · 07/10/2024 17:23

In fact, yea op, you need to actually be concerned about this.

What man obsesses over a woman he's known for a few hours to this degree?? I guarantee if you think hard enough, you'd acknowledge there have been other red flags regarding his weird almost stalkerish behaviour.

Tbh I think you should get out the relationship just because he sounds really really creepy. Like the sort who'd sew an airtag into your bag or something.

Weyohweyoh · 07/10/2024 17:29

You’ll spend your whole life looking over your shoulder with this one. You deserve better.

Megifer · 07/10/2024 17:30

And his mate sounds just as bad.

No boundaries crossed by stalking her workplace and sending a gift? Is he on glue?

Does his friend not like you? Only reason I can think why he's encouraging this bizarre behaviour, or he's on a wind up and will find it funny when your ex has a file opened on him on a police database.

annonymousse · 07/10/2024 19:06

Op you don't appear to be hearing whether you're listening or not. Unanimous advice this man is not a keeper. Your response is a list of excuses why he did what he did. 🤷‍♀️ you don't sound like you value yourself at all and are trying to talk yourself out of following your instincts.

MangoRose · 07/10/2024 19:53

usernew1234 · 07/10/2024 08:15

It’s not that I don’t want to hear it, I just worry that I’m coming across as dramatic, you know? Everything I’ve said is truthful with no dramatisations, I’m just the type of person who always worries they’re over-reacting.

You are underreacting massively.

You deserve so much better than him. Not only is he a cheat but he is abusive to you in the way of manipulation. There are so many better men out there, he shouldn't even be considering contacting other women. There really is no excuse for his behaviour.

autienotnaughty · 07/10/2024 21:32

Don't judge your man on how he treats you when things are going well, judge him on how he treats you when things aren't going great.

When you hit a hurdle this man lied to you, tried to minimise the issue. Refused to give you space or respect your boundaries. Has tried to emotionally manipulate you into forgiving him.

This is not a good man.

usernew1234 · 08/10/2024 08:39

annonymousse · 07/10/2024 19:06

Op you don't appear to be hearing whether you're listening or not. Unanimous advice this man is not a keeper. Your response is a list of excuses why he did what he did. 🤷‍♀️ you don't sound like you value yourself at all and are trying to talk yourself out of following your instincts.

I haven’t made any excuses for him, the only thing I’ve written that can be interpreted that way is me saying I didn’t see him as being abusive in an emotional sense. My other replies have basically been a factual journal of the situation and explaining certain points further to people who’ve asked.

I value myself a a lot. I dated a few men casually but never entered a relationship until 23 because I wanted to be certain of that person. I’m writing on here for advice on how to carry my situation forward with unbiased and objective opinions, which is an indication of how much I respect myself by making sure I deal with it correctly.

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DontBother123 · 08/10/2024 11:26

He has been emotionally abusive. Sleeping outside your house and harassing you via text. He’s also lied to you which is also emotionally abusive.

he said he was confused about the way he feels and that he “falls in love at the drop of a hat”.

He has revealed something really significant with this statement which is that he has shallow connections. He did not fall in love with her, he lusted after her.

Userengage · 08/10/2024 11:51

In short, this guy is going to make you truly miserable.

TheCultureHusks · 08/10/2024 12:00

usernew1234 · 06/10/2024 13:31

He said that if we can’t move past it, then “it’s not love. It’s something scary I don’t recognise.” Those were his literal words btw.

🤣 oh the DRAMA!

I’d dump him - it’s the beginning of the end really, you’re both young, first relationship for you, he’s clearly going to have his head turned at some point.

Don’t move in. It will be painful but honestly, he’s not the guy for you. Which you should be grateful for really as the mindless line ‘it’s something scary I don’t recognise’ is making me cringe myself inside out.

No, you not being able to ‘move past’ him being a cheaty twat the second he’s out of sight is not scary, and is totally recognisable. It’s called common sense, love!

TheCultureHusks · 08/10/2024 12:01

Also why is the word ‘spiral’ creeping into EVERY single relationship drama thread? I’m beginning to be allergic to it.

Pusheen467 · 08/10/2024 12:06

usernew1234 · 08/10/2024 08:39

I haven’t made any excuses for him, the only thing I’ve written that can be interpreted that way is me saying I didn’t see him as being abusive in an emotional sense. My other replies have basically been a factual journal of the situation and explaining certain points further to people who’ve asked.

I value myself a a lot. I dated a few men casually but never entered a relationship until 23 because I wanted to be certain of that person. I’m writing on here for advice on how to carry my situation forward with unbiased and objective opinions, which is an indication of how much I respect myself by making sure I deal with it correctly.

If any of the responses seem a bit harsh I think it's because older women often get very frustrated at seeing younger women putting up with crap from abusive (and he really is) men. I'm 33 so not loads older than you but I already look back at myself at 25 and I'm astounded at the crap I put up with compared to what I would tolerate now. We have your best interests at heart!

usernew1234 · 08/10/2024 12:29

Pusheen467 · 08/10/2024 12:06

If any of the responses seem a bit harsh I think it's because older women often get very frustrated at seeing younger women putting up with crap from abusive (and he really is) men. I'm 33 so not loads older than you but I already look back at myself at 25 and I'm astounded at the crap I put up with compared to what I would tolerate now. We have your best interests at heart!

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Yeah, I gathered. I haven’t took it personally to be honest. I left out maybe an important piece of information, ‘Hannah’ was the one who put her details in his locked notes on his phone (name and work address) and told him that he should come down with his friends to see her for some drinks. Does this make any difference? I’m not sure.

I’m weighing up every single point carefully to make sure I have the right decisions going forward. Also, his friend said it’d be a good idea to go down and surprise the girls, even though he himself also had a girlfriend / ‘situation-ship’ at home.

I messaged ‘Hannah’ asking if anything remotely flirty happened and to please just let me know. No response. In my boyfriend’s other Facebook account (which I didn’t know he had as it’s under a different name), I saw her name in his search history.

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usernew1234 · 08/10/2024 12:33

TheCultureHusks · 08/10/2024 12:00

🤣 oh the DRAMA!

I’d dump him - it’s the beginning of the end really, you’re both young, first relationship for you, he’s clearly going to have his head turned at some point.

Don’t move in. It will be painful but honestly, he’s not the guy for you. Which you should be grateful for really as the mindless line ‘it’s something scary I don’t recognise’ is making me cringe myself inside out.

No, you not being able to ‘move past’ him being a cheaty twat the second he’s out of sight is not scary, and is totally recognisable. It’s called common sense, love!

So, when this all happened in June and I confronted him about it, we were meant to be going away for the night that weekend. I obviously cancelled, and in response to my prior frustration about not spending any quality time together at all, he then said “maybe having a night away is exactly what we need right now. It’s the universe’s way of telling us we need a reset before big changes happen for us.” (Moving in together).

🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

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TheCultureHusks · 08/10/2024 12:36

usernew1234 · 08/10/2024 12:33

So, when this all happened in June and I confronted him about it, we were meant to be going away for the night that weekend. I obviously cancelled, and in response to my prior frustration about not spending any quality time together at all, he then said “maybe having a night away is exactly what we need right now. It’s the universe’s way of telling us we need a reset before big changes happen for us.” (Moving in together).

🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

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🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

all this aside, he does appear to be just a tiny little bit of a bellend.

usernew1234 · 08/10/2024 12:38

Megifer · 07/10/2024 17:30

And his mate sounds just as bad.

No boundaries crossed by stalking her workplace and sending a gift? Is he on glue?

Does his friend not like you? Only reason I can think why he's encouraging this bizarre behaviour, or he's on a wind up and will find it funny when your ex has a file opened on him on a police database.

This same friend was also willing to go and see the girls, even though he had a sort-of-girlfriend / ‘situantionship’ at home. That to me says enough about him. We haven’t really met either, just a ‘hi’ when passing by. We’re very different types of people.

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HundredMilesAnHour · 08/10/2024 13:05

It gets worse with every post you write @usernew1234. I don't understand why you're still umming and ahhing and making lists of good vs bad points when you're surrounded by red flag bunting waving in the wind. Maybe you thought you were making a sensible calculated decision when you got with this guy but it's very evident now that he is a terrible choice. Your lack of experience is showing. Don't throw good money after bad. Please listen to the very experienced posters on this thread. It's very telling (and indeed rare!) for MN that everyone is agreeing that he's not a keeper.

Userengage · 08/10/2024 13:11

Please don’t message “Hannah” again. If it wasn’t her it would be someone else. This is about him.

FerienInLipizza · 08/10/2024 13:47

usernew1234 · 06/10/2024 13:31

He said that if we can’t move past it, then “it’s not love. It’s something scary I don’t recognise.” Those were his literal words btw.

It doesn't get any more manipulative than this tbh

Jellycatspyjamas · 08/10/2024 13:57

It's abusive to reframe your understandable upset about his behaviour as something that "isn't love", he's literally gaslighting you about your feelings. Walk away, walk away.

Lifelover16 · 08/10/2024 13:57

Despite what you state, he is emotionally abusive - blackmailing you by telling you that if you don’t forgive him it’s not love?
sending secret gifts to another woman’s workplace?
He sounds like a manipulative lying cheat.
Bin him.