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Pip help please

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NotHavingAlaff · 02/10/2024 19:19

Hi. Hoping for some advice.
Have asked for a pip form for mental health. Now wondering if it's worth trying as I have heard it's difficult to receive it for mental health?
Also I am in the process of investigations for chronic pain and fatigue.. possibly fibromyalgia but not diagnosed.. do I mention this on the pip form... It causes me a lot of issues but as it's not diagnosed do I put all the problems it causes on the form?
Thank you

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Foxxo · 02/10/2024 19:20

mention it, you don't need an offcial diagnosis, if you're under investigation that can be enough.

Ibloodylovetea · 02/10/2024 19:32

PIP looks at how your condition affects your day to day life, your diagnosis is somewhat irreverent. The guidance that DWP decision makers use to make their decisions is available on line - it's rather wordy, but will give you an idea about what they are looking for when making their decision 1 (publishing.service.gov.uk). They may well not give you an award first off - if they don't, I suggest that you appeal. Apparently about 80% of appeals are overturned & the nil decision changed so it's worth your while if you think that you have a case. Good luck

5128gap · 02/10/2024 19:47

Yes. At the start of the form list all your medical conditions. Then as you go through the form explaining why you have difficulty with the activity, refer to both your MH and physical issues. So, if you're explaining you can't cook a main meal you might say your MH and medication for it makes you forgetful so you can't follow a recipe and forget to ke things out of the oven. Also that the pain in your arms means you can't lift pans, and in your hands means you can't peel veg or open tins...or whatever it is you struggle with.

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NotHavingAlaff · 02/10/2024 20:54

Thank you all
I can only try. But it's very stressful

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shellyleppard · 02/10/2024 20:56

@NotHavingAlaff you could ask for help from citizens advice bureau for filling in the form. They helped with mine and i got it

Rosscameasdoody · 03/10/2024 18:29

NotHavingAlaff · 02/10/2024 20:54

Thank you all
I can only try. But it's very stressful

As others have said, you mention anything you think is relevant to your claim, and you don’t have to have a diagnosis to claim. It may be helpful if you do have any medical evidence, to send copies with the form.

Applying on mental health grounds alone is much more difficult because generally these types of claims are held to a higher standard to meet the elgibility. When you get the application form there will be a date on it by which you must have the form returned or your claim will time out. Can I suggest that when you get the form you ring DWP on the number that will be on the covering letter, and ask them for an extension to this date - they have discretion to give you up to a couple of weeks extra. Tell them you want to use this time to gather evidence and seek help on completing the form. Medical evidence is useful if you have it, but you can also ask for others who are involved with your condition - either in a professional capacity or friends/family who know you well and support you - to write a short description of who they are and how they help you.

While you’re waiting for the form to arrive, it would be a good idea to contact an agency like Turn 2 Us or the CAB and ask for help in completing the form, as the questions are easy to misinterpret and can trip you up.

Also when you send back the form along with any evidence, if you can afford it, it’s wise to send it back to DWP in the envelope provided, but send it by special delivery and keep the receipt until DWP confirm that they have received your application. DWP won’t accept any other proof of posting such as the free certificate of posting issued by the post office, because their policy is that proof of posting is not proof of receipt, so you need to use a service which tracks the delivery and asks for a signature on receipt.

NotHavingAlaff · 04/10/2024 09:57

@Rosscameasdoody
Thank you 😊

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arthar · 04/10/2024 10:06

It's hard to get for any condition without evidence, that's the biggest factor and I think more people struggle to evidence mental health issues.

Put absolutely everything down on the form (when I did mine I put 'X, Y and suspected Z')

And gather every single shred of evidence you can, this can be anything from full psychiatric reports, to your just eat account showing you order food in daily because you are unable to cook. Anything that highlights how your need prompted or helped to do a task, could be screenshots of text messages going back months where you are asking another person for support (I had one who would always text her mum to ask if things were cooked/off/safe) that's all evidence.

caringcarer · 04/10/2024 12:12

shellyleppard · 02/10/2024 20:56

@NotHavingAlaff you could ask for help from citizens advice bureau for filling in the form. They helped with mine and i got it

Yes CAB are experts at filling out the PIP form.

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